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Dimebag Darrell shot dead last night

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Doctor J wrote:
    Indeed, a mentally unstable teenager can get a gun before they can legally drink or get married. Hmmmm.... kids and guns... :eek:

    that's right, you can go to war and kill but you cant buy a can of bud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    BLABBERMOUTH.NET has confirmed that former PANTERA singer Philip Anselmo did NOT attend the the funeral of DAMAGEPLAN/ex-PANTERA guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott — apparently because he was told that he was "not welcome" at any of the events honoring the late musician that was slain last week at a nightclub in Columbus, Ohio. Anselmo's former PANTERA/DOWN bandmate Rex Brown (bass) DID attend, as did a number of other high-profile musicians, such as Zakk Wylde (OZZY OSBOURNE, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY), Eddie Van Halen, Jerry Cantrell (ALICE IN CHAINS), Jim Root (SLIPKNOT), Corey Taylor (SLIPKNOT), Paul Gray (SLIPKNOT), and Dino Cazares (ex-FEAR FACTORY).

    Cantrell reportedly performed an acoustic number at the funeral, while Eddie Van Halen gave a speech that included an impromptu playback of a phone message he had received from Abbott at some point before his death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    The following report is courtesy of Nola.com's Keith Spera:

    The onstage killing of former bandmate "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott has left ex-PANTERA vocalist and north shore resident Phil Anselmo distraught and questioning his own future.

    In a transcript of a videotaped statement released to the media Tuesday, Anselmo said: "People want my reaction to what happened. This is about Dimebag Darrell, purely Darrell. It's not about me or some . . . psycho that happened to destroy the most beautiful person, one of my best friends in the world."

    Abbott, 38, was shot and killed Dec. 8 while performing with the hard rock band DAMAGEPLAN at a Columbus, Ohio, nightclub. Three other people, including Damageplan's chief of security, died after Nathan Gale, 25, opened fire with a handgun. Gale was an ex-Marine and metal fan reportedly angered by the band Pantera's breakup. He was shot and killed by a police officer responding to 911 calls.

    Anselmo and Abbott spent 15 years touring the world together in Pantera.

    Pantera didn't achieve widespread success until Anselmo, a New Orleans native, joined about 1989. Pantera sold more than 10 million albums, collected two Grammy nominations and inspired legions of aspiring hard rock bands. But by 2002, Anselmo, Darrell Abbott and his brother Vinnie Paul Abbott, the band's drummer, had become estranged as Anselmo devoted more time to other projects.

    In 2003, they confirmed that Pantera had disbanded, as the two camps exchanged accusations in the hard rock press. Anselmo was at home on the north shore last week when Abbott was killed. As OZZY OSBOURNE, Paul Stanley of KISS, Brian May of QUEEN and other rock icons memorialized Abbott, a devastated Anselmo made no public comment until Tuesday.

    Anselmo's statement says that "the heavy metal media destroyed Pantera." He laments that he "never got a chance to say goodbye (to Abbott) in the right way and it kills me, and I'm so sorry."

    Anselmo traveled to Dallas for Abbott's funeral. But he ended up not attending "to respect the (Abbott) family's wishes, and they do not want me there. I believe I belong there, but I understand completely. I wish his family the least grief they could ever have, and I know it's impossible. Just bless his family, bless his friends. I love him like a brother loves a brother. . . . I'm so sorry to his family and everyone else who was senselessly killed in Columbus, Ohio."

    His statement hints at an uncertain professional future.

    "This has changed the entire world, and this is the last you'll be seeing of me for a long time."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    This is worth reading, though be very prepared, this is possibly the most insulting and ignorant thing I have ever read, so be sure you send this idiot an e-mail letting him know what you think of his "article"

    http://www.bravewords.com/news.html?id=21155


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    That's just idiotic to the point of insanity. Mail sent. If anyone wants to use what I said in my mail, just PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Doctor J wrote:
    This is worth reading, though be very prepared, this is possibly the most insulting and ignorant thing I have ever read, so be sure you send this idiot an e-mail letting him know what you think of his "article"

    http://www.bravewords.com/news.html?id=21155


    that makes me ****ing sick, i'd never get tired of kicking that **** in the face. who the **** does he think he is?

    EDIT: has he ever heard dimebag? has he ever heard a metal cd? has he ever met dime?

    ehhhhhhhh NO i dont think so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    Calm down people - the article is a satire - while not in the best of taste right now, it is just a satire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    William E. Grim, you primitive motherfcuker....

    Even if it was satire - a week after Dime's death? :mad: :mad: :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Shazbot


    heres a nice tribute video , shows dimebags caring side aswell as his musical

    http://www.muchosucko.com/video-thefinalmemoriesofaguitarlegend.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Read Erik Rutan's statement on www.hateeternal.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭athena 2000


    Just thought I'd let you know that the public memorial service for "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott was held Tuesday, 14 December, in Arlington, Texas at the convention center. Even though you all probably know about the event, the fans started lining up at 4:30 pm for the service which was to begin about 8pm. More than 3,000 people attended. The service began just before 10pm and ended at 1am. Unfortunately, they did feel it was necessary to use wand metal detectors to screen people for weapons which delayed the service.

    Every news report about Darrell, who he was, his talents and his musical career was more than decent. They interviewed the crowds waiting for the service, and I saw no scuzzy, creepy weirdos, and no television news outlet portrayed metal fans as anything except people that loved metal/rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    there's some great pictures from the memorial service posted via a link on bravewords.com - Van Halen and Zakk were there too. There is a pic of Vinnie in bits - man that must have been so fcuked up for him, talkin about Dime a week later.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Vinnie looks in bits alright. Poor guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    KGBT4.com (www.team4news.com) has issued the following report:
    "The mother of the man police say opened fire at a Columbus, Ohio, nightclub, killing four people, says her son was a paranoid schizophrenic.
    Twenty-five-year-old Nathan Gale of Marysville, Ohio, jumped on stage at the Alrosa Villa Nightclub on December 8th and fatally shot four people. Among those killed was North Texas heavy metal guitar legend "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott.
    Police then shot and killed Gale.
    Mary Clark tells W-C-M-H-T-V in Columbus that her son was discharged from the Marines last year because of the illness. She also says she bought her son the nine millimeter semi-automatic handgun used in the shooting because she was proud of him when he was in the Marines.
    Clark says her son was obsessed with Abbott's former Dallas-based band PANTERA in high school. She also says she knows police had no choice but to shoot her son."



    Indeed, I'm proud of my paranoid schozphrenic child, you know what would make his day? A ****ing handgun :eek:

    Surely someone who buys a mentally unstable person a gun is just as guilty for any harm which comes from that gun as the person behind the trigger?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭Ph3n0m


    on a good note

    http://www.dimebageternal.com/ - has been launched


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    Doctor J wrote:
    KGBT4.com (www.team4news.com) Indeed, I'm proud of my paranoid schozphrenic child, you know what would make his day? A ****ing handgun :eek:

    Surely someone who buys a mentally unstable person a gun is just as guilty for any harm which comes from that gun as the person behind the trigger?

    Couldn't agree with you more mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    She also says she knows police had no choice but to shoot her son."

    Well good for her - her lunatic son shot and killed a living legend. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    ...and three other innocents. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Ph3n0m wrote:
    on a good note

    http://www.dimebageternal.com/ - has been launched

    It looks like it's going to be a good site. There's a statement there from Kerry King as well. Man, the outpour of grief everywhere has been pretty overwhelming when you think about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Yeah, Michael Anthony has just put up a tribute
    dimebag_friends.jpg


    And this is a pic taken of Dime the evening of the show
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    Guitarist Darrell "Dimebag" Abbott told Kevin McMeans that a photograph of the two of them taken last Wednesday afternoon "would be a classic."

    McMeans said Abbott, who normally dressed casually, was referring to his outfit - which last Wednesday afternoon included a leopard-print jacket.

    But the comment took on another meaning in the wake of Abbott's shooting death that night. Abbott and four other people were shot to death in the Alrosa Villa that night.

    McMeans, a 26-year-old Hilliard resident, is an avid collector of musicians' photographs and autographs. Dimebag and his brother, Vinnie Paul Abbott, also of DAMAGEPLAN, were the only members of PANTERA he had yet to snag a picture of.

    So, within minutes of his last college final ending Wednesday afternoon, McMeans arrived at the Alrosa Villa, 5055 Sinclair Road.

    After chatting with a guitar tech for more than an hour, he found success. Dimebag was friendly and meeting the Abbott brothers left him "starstruck," McMeans said.

    Similarly, Adam Vanover, 25, of Bellefontaine, came to the Alrosa hoping to hear his rock hero perform and to get an autograph from Dimebag.

    Band members told him to go to the tour bus after the show to get his guitar signed. Instead, he spent part of the evening with friend Nathan Heiberger, 27, of Bellefontaine and about 15 other people huddled behind a pillar in the club's VIP section.

    They were 20 feet away from the stage where Marysville resident Nathan Gale, 25, took aim at the crowd after shooting Dimebag.

    "There were shots going everywhere...(Gale) just flipped out," Heiberger said.

    "All I could hear was feedback and gunfire - I thought it was fake," Vanover said. "When the police came, I realized, 'This ain't no joke.'"

    Hilliard resident Jeff Greene, 19, is a member of Twelve Gauge, one of the evening's opening bands. He said he was thrilled to play with a longtime idol.

    He said he, too, first thought the shooting was a prank, a part of Damageplan's act. When Greene realized otherwise, he said, he rushed the stage.

    Greene said Gale asked him to find his glasses, using his 9-millimeter gun to gesture downward. When he stepped back to look for the glasses, Greene said, Gale shot his gun, nearly grazing him with the bullet.

    "I said, 'What are you doing? I'm trying to help you,'" Greene said.

    Shortly afterward, he said, Columbus patrol officer James Niggemeyer shot Gale, who by that time was holding a hostage at the rear of the stage.

    In the aftermath, Greene and an officer tried to help Dimebag, who "kept squeezing my hand," Greene said.

    He said it wasn't until he later stepped out into the parking lot that he realized his hands were covered in Dimebag's blood.

    Hilliard resident Eric Sanders, 24, said once he heard media reports describing Gale, he realized he saw him in the Alrosa's parking lot before the concert.

    "He just looked like somebody who was there for the show," he said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 femmedujour


    True legend.

    R.I.P. Dimebag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Here is the chilling account as collected by Karl Kuenning:

    Today I was contacted by two local Columbus Roadies that were both eyewitnesses to the Damageplan Shootings exactly one week ago tonight in Columbus, Ohio at the Alrosa Villa club. They are members of the local stage crew in Columbus, and work several venues including the Alrosa. "Jon" is the club's stage manager and "Tubbs" is the club's F.O.H. (Front of House Sound Man) and was working monitors that fateful night as he normally did when a national act like Damageplan played the club. Neither Jon nor Tubbs have spoken publicly until now, even though both have been contacted by several national and local news sources and have been asked for comments. They have chosen to tell their story here to make sure their words are not misrepresented or taken out of context.
    Here is their story of those terrible few minutes that have changed their lives forever and taken a close friend from them in the same instant. As Jon emotionally told me, "It was the worst thing I have ever seen in my life."
    Both Jon and Tubbs said that the afternoon could not have gone any better. The band and their crew were extremely professional and friendly. Jon remembers Jeff "Mayhem" Thompson (the head of the band's security) making sure the local crew all had plenty of water and Dimebag Darrell Abbott even made small talk with some of them during the sound check. "They were all incredible," said Jon. During the day however, a strange man made a nuisance of himself, and was finally told to leave the area by "Mayhem." Hangers-on and Want-ta-bees are common in the music business, and no one figured this guy was really dangerous. This of course turned out to be Nathan Gale, who as we know now ended up shooting six people, and killing four of them later that day. Other than that apparently minor incident, the set-up for the show went remarkably smooth. Tubbs now also remembers that just prior to the show Gale's van was parked behind the band's tour bus, and they announced over the PA several times for the owner to have it moved or it would be towed...which the Gale reportedly did shortly before Damageplan took the stage.
    As the gig was about to start, Jon was on the stage with his roommate and close friend Erin "Stoney" Halk. On the opposite side of the stage stood Jeffrey 'Mayhem' Thompson performing his security duties by scanning the audience for any potential threats to the band. About that time (just a few minutes prior to the band entering the stage) Jon was thirsty, and decided to walk to the bar and get a bottle of water. He told "Stoney" that "the stage is yours" meaning that the responsibility for the security on that side of the stage (stage right) was now his. Stoney motioned a "thumbs up" to verify that he understood. Jon worked his way through the crowd and was near the bar when he heard the first shots. POP, POP, POP... He looked up and saw the horrific sight of Dimebag falling to the ground and the mass confusion unfolding on the stage. His most vivid memory of that moment strangely, is the ear-splitting feedback caused by Dimebag falling on his own guitar. During the next few panic filled minutes he grabbed and pushed people towards the closest door. In a blur of time he eventually ended up making his way towards the stage, grabbing Vinnie Paul Abbott (drummer for Damageplan and the brother of the now slain guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell) and ushered him to safety.
    Tubbs was stage left and watched the entire surreal event unfold just a few feet in front of him. He says he was probably the last person to talk to Dimebag, having said something to him as he entered the stage. As the monitor guy for this gig, his mixing console was only about 5 or 6 feet away from the lead guitarist. According to Tubbs, the shooter (Nathan Gale) entered the stage from the stage right area (not from the audience as previously reported) As Gale determinedly ran towards Dimebag, the stage right roadie "Stoney" ran after him. "Mayhem" saw Gale and converged on him from stage left. Neither one got to center stage fast enough. Gale fired at least five bullets at point blank range into the doomed artist's body. The final bullet was a fatal head shot fired as he went down. "He was dead before he hit the stage," says Tubbs. "The way the attack happened, nothing could have saved him... nothing," He also remembers the feedback (a droning hum at about 600 Hz, notes the trained ear of the audio tech.)
    The next few minutes were confused, but this is what else Tubbs remembers.
    As Dimebag hit the floor, the shooter now turned his attention to Tubbs (still only about five feet away). Gale raised the gun and aimed it at Tubbs who was now literally looking down the barrel of the gun. However, before he could shoot Tubbs, the two Roadies ("Stoney" and "Mayhem") tackled Gale from opposite sides. Neither one had a weapon, and both were putting their own lives at risk to try to stop the shooter from killing anyone else. Erin "Stoney" Halk was an ex-Marine and Jeffrey "Mayhem" Thompson was a massive 6'1'' man and a very scary looking dude, so I'm sure they both thought they had a better than even chance to disarm the gunman. They were wrong. We now know that Nathan Gale was also a trained ex-Marine and he dropped his first empty clip and slapped another one in the semi-automatic 9 mm pistol in the blink of an eye. He killed both of these heroes within seconds of his first victim. Gale had at least five clips of bullets and he reloaded at least once, but probably twice, says Tubbs. As "Stoney" and "Mayhem" died making the ultimate sacrifice, two more roadies and several members of the audience also rose to the occasion and stormed the stage. Chris Paluska (the Damageplan Tour Manager) took a shot to the stomach, and is still in serious condition in a local hospital (according to the most recent report). John "Kat" Brooks (the band's drum roadie) also took a hit (but thankfully has now been released from the hospital). According to Tubbs, both were definitely trying to subdue Gale. About the same time several members of the audience climbed the crowd barrier protecting the stage, and some tried to help "Dimebag" with CPR while others made their own attempts to subdue the shooter. (MORE HEROES). Tubbs believes that Nathen Bray (the only "civilian" casualty) was actually killed because he was one of those fans that climbed the stage. Tubbs does not believe that any shots were directed at the fleeing audience at any time (again contrary to published media reports). While all these failed attempts of these unarmed heroes attacking an armed gunman were happening, both Tubbs and Jon noticed several police officers quietly entering the club. Most of them took defensive positions, apparently waiting for more back up. Directly disputing published police reports they both claim that the officer that eventually killed Gale was NOT the first officer on the scene. He appeared however to be the first officer that decided to do something about the situation. Seeing that Gale had a hostage and that he was temporarily distracted by the waves of roadies and fans trying to disarm him, the officer shot the perpetrator from behind with a shotgun blast killing him instantly. With that shot, the hostage was released, and the carnage finally ended. The entire incident lasted only a few minutes.
    There are reports that there may be some home video of the event. Tubbs seriously doubts that. Any camcorder would have been "smuggled" into the venue since cameras were forbidden per the terms of the band's contract. Any available video images would probably come from low quality camera cell phones and would probably only be still photos. None have surfaced as of this writing, but the police may have any existing images impounded as evidence.
    As you can see there is more to this story than has generally been reported. According to Jon and Tubbs there were AT LEAST SIX and possibly more TRUE HEROES that night at the Alrosa Villa club. Certainly the police officers risked their lives and deserve our thanks and accolades. Officer James D. Niggemeyer probably saved many lives by taking the intuitive and ending the bloodshed and should be duly honored for his heroics. So too should we honor Erin "Stoney" Halk (who Tubbs emotionally credits with saving his own life), Jeffrey "Mayhem" Thompson, Nathen Bray, Chris Paluska, and John "Kat" Brooks. Heroes all. Four Roadies and a Fan that disregarded their own safety to protect others. The surviving band members and the 250+ members of the audience may in fact owe their very lives to these heroes. I know Tubbs believes he does.
    Tubbs and Jon are both having a hard time dealing with the memories of that night, and they both want to remain out of the public eye. I hope that everyone respects their wishes. They both felt however that a corrected version of this event was important and should be told so that the dead and wounded can be properly honored as heroes... hence this article.
    They wanted me to tell everyone that both of them, as well as the entire Alrosa crew, the local Columbus stagehands, the Alrosa club owner and employees, and the family of Erin Halk all deeply appreciate the prayers, the condolences, and the outpouring of love that has been expressed this week in response to this senseless act. They would like everyone to continue to pray for the survivors, the victims, and the victim's families (including the family of Nathan Gale).
    Finally I asked Jon and Tubbs if they would stay in the entertainment business after this traumatic experience.
    Without hesitation they both said... "Hell yes!"

    Written by Karl Kuenning RFL
    www.roadie.net


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Cianan2


    I heard they released a home video from inside the club, somewhere on the net now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Numina


    Let alone hearing about it, who wants to SEE dimebag die!?!?! it's just wrong, I hope you're lying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭0utshined


    Nah it's true, I just had a look. It's on the usual sites you'd expect it to be on. It's not very clear so it's hard to make out what's going on, except for the end where you see the shooter go down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 JKSIII




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭superconor


    Did anyone else think it was shocking the way Pantera used to let people up on stage and jump around or even sing along with them? watching the 3 Vulgar Videos From Hell its crazy the way they would just let the fans up and give them beer and smoke...or when Dimebag walked into the middle of the pit during Domination..

    This is crazy. I still cannot beleive it.


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