FG senator breaks silence on Provo Kidnapping

billy the squid

Poblachtach wrote:

As jow cahill said---This war is just as much ours as it is yours.

but it never was a war, it did not fall under the rules of engagement.

how is kidnapping a politician from a country these idiots want to join going to further their cause. you dont see the americans kidnapping their own men do you in iraq.

marco murphy

Come on,we have propaghada.Dont believe it.Or at least dont argue usig that as your base!

Poblachtach

Poblachtach wrote:

Come on,we have propaghada.Dont believe it.Or at least dont argue usig that as your base!

Eh???
Its pure and simple, it was an "illegal war" carried out against the wishes of the vast majorityof the Irish people.I'm being generous with the use of the term war too as it didn't conform to the geneva convention, nor was it declared/implimented by any legitimate government.

billy the squid

If you can find the paragraph referring to the following in the Geneva convention regarding the following that gives credence to the acts of the IRA then if you think they are so saintly.

2) pillaging

2) beating up children

3) having an identifyable piece of attire when in combat

4) killing of civilians

5) attacking non military targets

just because a story did not apear in an pobleacht doesnt make it a lie you know

marco murphy

Why change the subject.It might not be true,so dont use it as a base to argue.

cdebru

Earthman wrote:

Eh???
Its pure and simple, it was an "illegal war" carried out against the wishes of the vast majorityof the Irish people.I'm being generous with the use of the term war too as it didn't conform to the geneva convention, nor was it declared/implimented by any legitimate government.

what "legitimate" government could have declared war on behalf of the nationalist population of the 6 counties

was the recent iraqi invasion a war
1 was the then iraqi government a "legitimate government"
2 was the then US government a "legitimate government"
3 did it comply with all the geneva conventions

after the occupation of france by the nazis was the french resistance a war
it was not backed by the "legitimate vichy government"
it did not comply with the geneva conventions
were in your view the French resistance terrorists

who decides what a legitimate government is do you have a guideline as to how legitimacy is obtained
Is the british government legitimate in your eyes with the support of only 43% of the population of the UK at the last general election

jbkenn

what "legitimate" government could have declared war on behalf of the nationalist population of the 6 counties

The Republic nearly did in August 1969, fortunately sense prevailed sometime in the course of the night, and we set up "Field Hospitals" instead

was the recent iraqi invasion a war

It sure as sh1t is now

1 was the then iraqi government a "legitimate government"

If I remember correctly Saddam Hussein came to power after a coup

2 was the then US government a "legitimate government"

Yes

3 did it comply with all the geneva conventions

Dont know

after the occupation of france by the nazis was the french resistance a war

Yes, as a result of the German invasion the French people were entitled to resist

it was not backed by the "legitimate vichy government"

Vichy was simply a German puppet government

it did not comply with the geneva conventions

I really dont know

were in your view the French resistance terrorists

No

who decides what a legitimate government is do you have a guideline as to how legitimacy is obtained

Usually by the majority of the electorate, who got off their ar$e and voted

Is the british government legitimate in your eyes with the support of only 43% of the population of the UK at the last general election

Well it was a greater percentage than the opposition got,and, the British electorate will have the opportunity to boot them out at the next election, if the so choose

jbkenn

marco murphy

Its rigged :P

true

The thing that is rigged is the propoganda than Gerry Adams and the IRA has put in the heads of its followers. The IRA are thugs, plain and simply, who are detested by the majority of the population. They have bought nothing but misery and destruction and the country would be a lot better off if it had not been for them. If they had any decency at all, they should decommission their weapons and semtex now. We saw the LVF do it a number of years ago on television - the ball is in the IRAs court now.

gandalf

Gone totally off topic. Closed.