Body found Inch strand Cork

hefty_langer

Breaking news on rte.ie - Looks likely to be the body off the missing 12yr old boy
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A body has been found close to Inch Strand in Co Cork.

Volunteers searching for missing Cork boy Robert Holohan found the body in a densely shrubbed area adjacent to a boreen leading to the strand.

The area is roughly seven miles away from the young boy's home.

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The searchers immediately raised the alarm and gardaí have cordoned off the area.

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Chalk

poor little dude

joePC

what type of sick fooker would do this......

tba

thats terrible

shelly04

poor little kid

woosaysdan

poor fella is this what the world is coming to? you cant even let your children out to play anymore without fear that something will happen to them!!!

sliabh

joePC wrote:

what type of sick fooker would do this......

I wouldn't jump to conclusions. It may yet turn out that he died of natural causes.

joejoem

yeah it has been terrible weather, he could have drowned, fallen or gotten Hypothermia

hefty_langer

highly unlikely - middle of the day and no-one saw him walk the 8/9 miles from his house to inch...
Sure it would have taken him the guts of 2/3hrs to get there and would have been getting dark too.
Its sad to say but I reckon it had to be an abduction, but sure we'll see over the next 36hrs

wideband

my heart goes out to the family and friends..........total tragedy

A Dub in Glasgo

Terrible news

gazzer

Just heard the news.... jesus... that poor fella. His mother was only on Gerry Ryan this morning. How are they ever going to get over something like that.

seamus

I think we all knew he was brown bread once the week had passed though.

It's possible he was abducted and escaped, only to be killed by poor weather and hypothermia.

Hobbes

hefty_langer wrote:

highly unlikely - middle of the day and no-one saw him walk the 8/9 miles from his house to inch...
Sure it would have taken him the guts of 2/3hrs to get there and would have been getting dark too.
Its sad to say but I reckon it had to be an abduction, but sure we'll see over the next 36hrs

Or he could of headed out, got lost and walked off in the wrong direction thinking he was going in the right direction. Come night time, totally lost and died from exposure to the weather. It certainly is possible. He was only 12 years old.

hefty_langer

my fingers are crossed that it wasn't an abduction... either way it is a devastating tragedy.

Mrs.Babalady

That's terrible news. I thought we might get a happy ending to this story.
It's so terrible for all involved.

PhoenixRising

RTE are now reporting that a second body has just been found in Midleton town. The body is that of a middle-aged man.

Draw your own conclusions. I have.

Source: RTE Radio 1 news at 5.

Wertz

PhoenixRising wrote:

RTE are now reporting that a second body has just been found in Middleton town. The body is that of a middle-aged man.

Draw your own conclusions. I have.

I drew a similar conclusion. Guilt is a powerful emotion...

jhegarty

Hobbes wrote:

Or he could of headed out, got lost and walked off in the wrong direction thinking he was going in the right direction. Come night time, totally lost and died from exposure to the weather. It certainly is possible. He was only 12 years old.

not a chance.... there is no way he would have ended up in inch by accident...

iceman_2001_ie

Where have you heard this?
What websites are reporting it?

I don't have a radio and my internet connection is too slow to hear it online.

cajun_tiger

not being bad but i hope he's still alive somewhere

the only thing is there have been bodys found off the coast line in england to day due to the bad weather lst night, this could be the same, they havent said if its a child or male or anything.

jhegarty

iceman_2001_ie wrote:

Where have you heard this?
What websites are reporting it?

I don't have a radio and my internet connection is too slow to hear it online.

96fm had it ...

rte have it too.... see http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2272454&posted=1#post2272454

cajun_tiger

http://212.2.162.45/news/story.asp?j=2766120&p=z766y35&n=2766212

iceman_2001_ie

I am speaking with relation to the second body that was found.

alleepally

Tragic news for the family and everyone involved in the search.

aidan_walsh

iceman_2001_ie wrote:

I am speaking with relation to the second body that was found.

There doesn't seem to be anything online about it yet, but my father also says he heard it on the radio.

cajun_tiger

a second body???

fletch

It may offer come closure to the mother (although she may not know it now, she has been spared the years of wondering and looking out the window hoping for his return)

cajun_tiger

found in middleton sounds more likely than the strand

hefty_langer

news from the headlines from radio one -2pm body in Inch was described as small in size, Second body discovered by a river on the Cork Road at5.20pm was described as middle aged man, no further details.

koneko

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0112/holohanr.html

Nybras

Very sad, think how the parents and rest of family are feeling.

nesf

Depressing ****. My heart goes out for his family.

JackKelly

How sick must you be to take, and kill (and possibly more) a child? Good god. Poor family

gonker

r.i.p. and give the family strength to face the coming days.

RedorDead

Poor little Robert RIP. Was really distressing reading about in the paper about it this morning. Had a picture of his mother in his now deserted bedroom. Even the most heartless f*cker couldnt have been affected by it.

If the people of midleton / cork ever get their hands on whoever is responsible for this, they will subject him/her to an almighty , horrific end which frankly is all they deserve.

lisa.c

God love them... that poor little boy R.I.P what has our world come to???

E@gle.

It has been confirmed.
R.i.p

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2005/0113/1279065417HM1LEAD.html

hefty_langer

From that article in the times, they are foreign investigating cars seen in the area:

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However, they are also considering the possibility that it may be somebody from the UK who was visiting the area and they were last night looking for a UK registered car and another foreign registered car at car parks around Cork city including at Cork Airport.

Descriptions of the vehicles were withheld from the public but circulated to detective branches throughout Cork in the hope that officers might track them down.

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Jesus its sickening to think that someone came here from a foreign country with the aim of possibly murdering a child...

aidan_walsh

Garda officers confirmed off the record to The Irish Times that the body was that of young Robert who disappeared after leaving his home at Ballyedmond near Midleton on the afternoon of January 4th.

So "off the record" doesn't mean what it used to anymore then...

smoke.me.a.kipper

poor guy. his familty must be in bits.

okidoki987

I'm not sure telling the press that they found him from the signal from his mobile phone was a good idea.
The next time it happens (hopefully not), what's the first thing the
attacker(s) will do, get rid of the mobile phone.
I'm sure the 2nd body found will have nothing to do with the case.

The press have suggested that
(a) it must be some local or from the area as the lane is not easily noticed and you have to know the area to find it.
(b) The body was concealed so that means that somebody else must have put him there.
(c) They have also stated there is a paedophile gang operating around the area, if this is true how come?

Whoever was responsible, let's hope they get whats coming to them.

hefty_langer

Until the pathologists report nobody can say anything, So far the stories from the media are complete speculation, The truth is that nobody (even the guards) have anything to go on. The only clues and evidence is only going to come out with the pathology report.

An example of the speculation so far:
1) the police were able to track the body down from signal from his mobile (this is not possible - once the phone is turn off it doesn't send/receive any signals) The last signal they would have got would have been back near his house the afternoon he went missing.
2)The second body that was found had something to do with the mssing boy. Again here, pure speculation, at at the moment this seems to be a tragic circumstance.
3) Police looking for foreign/UK cars in car parks around cork including the airport... Speculation that someone had come over to Ireland, killed a child and fled?

Everyone is just going to have to wait and see what happens.

jank

1) the police were able to track the body down from signal from his mobile (this is not possible - once the phone is turn off it doesn't send/receive any signals) The last signal they would have got would have been back near his house the afternoon he went missing.

Wrong!
A Phone gives out a small signal even if turned off. To stop the signal completely the battery has to be removed. Just ask Pablo Escobar.

I remember going down that road to Inch a few times smoking with a few of my friends. Its a scary place in the middle of no-where at the best of times.

R.I.P Robert Holohan.

hshortt

Cell profiling or triangulation only works when the phone is on.

To have any kind of a signal you need three cell towers, it's possible to track the movements of the phone by monitoring the cell trace from tower to tower, this would give a kind of rough guide as to the direction taken etc.

I hope that Roberts (RIP) phone was on, as this may give vital clues to his whereabouts during his abduction, i.e. if he was taken somewhere else before his tragic ending place.

Also, if the phone is used again without major changes to the firmware, then the same id will be broadcast in an effort to attach to a cell tower, this may help nail the scum that were involved.

Regards
Howard

Nasty_Girl

The poor little guy, I guess the best the family can hope for now is that he didnt suffer and wasnt afraid when he went

NocturnalDonkey

If the Gardai know the location of one mobile phone at any one time, given the signal strength to 3 surrounding phone masts. Can they not look at all phones in the same area with the same signal strength to the 3 surrounding phone masts.

If the killer had a mobile phone with them when they were with Robert(which is likely), then surely it would be easy enough for the gardai to identify that phone, and therefore the killer.

A Dub in Glasgo

It is probable that the killer dumped the body some time ago

Dreadful news

hshortt

Hey Nocturnal Donkey! I like your thinking, sure enough the cell towers would have information on all phones in the area at the time and as you point out it would help to build a list a possible suspects. I am fully expecting someone to be caught for this. Shame they can't be publicly whipped or something, getting prison time for a crime like this is not justice. Altough I'm sure that other inmates don't take kindly to criminals using children as their prey.

Regards
Howard

seamus

hshortt wrote:

Hey Nocturnal Donkey! I like your thinking, sure enough the cell towers would have information on all phones in the area at the time and as you point out it would help to build a list a possible suspects. I am fully expecting someone to be caught for this. Shame they can't be publicly whipped or something, getting prison time for a crime like this is not justice. Altough I'm sure that other inmates don't take kindly to criminals using children as their prey.

Prisons would have plenty of child sex offenders. Not sure if they get particular abuse though.

jhegarty

hshortt wrote:

Hey Nocturnal Donkey! I like your thinking, sure enough the cell towers would have information on all phones in the area at the time and as you point out it would help to build a list a possible suspects. I am fully expecting someone to be caught for this. Shame they can't be publicly whipped or something, getting prison time for a crime like this is not justice. Altough I'm sure that other inmates don't take kindly to criminals using children as their prey.

Regards
Howard

there is a mobile phone tower just a the top of the hill where he was found... its a microwave tower for the gas pipeline......