Volunteers wanted for Creating OECD Broadband Price Table

damien

Still need prices for:

Austria
Finland
Luxembourg
Portugal
Spain

and for the OECD Table:

Czech Republic
Hungary
Iceland
Mexico
Norway
Poland
Slovak Republic
Switzerland
Turkey
USA

AndrewMc

damien.m wrote:

Still need prices for:

Austria

From a quick chat with an Austrian friend of mine, here's what I got:

Telekom Austria's line rental seems to be 17.44 euro/month, but their broadband is relatively expensive. From another company called "inode" it's cheaper. Somebody who can actually speak German may want to double-check I've understood everything right, but here goes:

• The ADSL is a "resold" product from Telekom Austria available in all broadband-enabled exchanges, while their XDSL is available in unbundled exchanges only.
• At the end of 2003, inode had unbundled 87 exchanges. By end 2004, this was 147. Apparently this allows them to cover 50% of businesses and 55% of households. I don't know what the line-pass rate is.
• I don't know if they include voice calls in their tarriffs on xDSL lines, but they do mention VOIP availability for some.

The link above is easy to read, even without language skills. Sample prices (per month), are:

ADSL (skipped some, here):

• Cheapest: 256/64 (not really BB, but anyway), 250MB cap. E18.90 + line rental
• Cheapest at 512kb: none. Next slowest is 768/128, 400MB cap. E24.50 + line rental
• Most expensive: 768/128 again, 8GB cap, E59 + line rental.

xDSL capped: This is where it gets much better. No line rental to be added here (unbundled, remember):

• 1024/128, 4GB cap, E39
• 1536/384, 20GB cap, E49
• 2048/512, 20GB cap, E59
• 3072/512, 30GB cap, E89

xDSL uncapped: Again, no line rental:

• 768/128, E59
• 1024/128, E69
• 1280/256, E79

Hope that helps. Hope it's right!

eircomtribunal

AndrewMc wrote:

xDSL capped: This is where it gets much better. No line rental to be added here (unbundled, remember):

• 1024/128, 4GB cap, E39
• 1536/384, 20GB cap, E49
• 2048/512, 20GB cap, E59
• 3072/512, 30GB cap, E89

xDSL uncapped: Again, no line rental:

• 768/128, E59
• 1024/128, E69
• 1280/256, E79

Perhaps one additional info from the offers: The caps do not apply for night-time bandwidth use. So for all means and purposes the capped versions could be called unlimited.
And important, as you have already mentioned, there is no extra line rental to be paid. They offer as well VOIP and combination packets with mobile company Three. Porting the existing telephone number to the VOIP costs €26 once-off.
P.

kenped

Norwegian broadband:

Currently the cheapest in Norway:

Canal Digital
Speed 100/100
Cost: NKR 97 / Euro 12

Currently the cheapest good product(Based on speed):

Canal Digital
Speed 750/750
Cost: NKR 267 / Euro 34

Currently the cheapest highend(based on speed):

Canal Digital
Speed 2050/2050
Cost: NKR 447 / Euro 56

Currently the cheapest 8mb:

Nextgentel
Speed 8023/864
Cost: NKR 998 / Euro 125

All of the products that are compared where able to delivere broadband Nationwide.

Links used:
Telepriser (List all the companies/products) <-- Site in norwegian ,, Click on Bredbånd to enter the list over ISP's. You should be able to figure out the info on that page.

Canal Digital

Btw: remember that Norway is currently the most expensive country to live in

eircomtribunal

kenped wrote:

Norwegian broadband:

Currently the cheapest in Norway:

Canal Digital
Speed 100/100
Cost: NKR 97 / Euro 12

Those not really quite broadband offers, other successful countries like Denmark have them as well, are very valuable for Internet and Broadband development and should not be laughed at.

Just to compare with the Irish situation. To get a similar always-on service in Ireland, you'd need to purchase 5 FRIACO 150 hours "flat-rate" services and run dual-channel 128 kb/s ISDN on them. You'd pay Eircom some 150 euros (plus the ISDN line rental) a month.

P.

Edit:
And one can't even get more than one FRIACO packages, so it would work out much dearer: From Eircom FAQ:

Q. Can I stay connected all the time?
A. eircom net flat rate packages are not designed to support continuous or unattended Internet access. If you require an always-on solution, try eircom broadband. Specific limitations are as follows:
1 - each flat rate account can only be accessed from one specific phone line. You specify this number at sign-up.
2 - Your connection will automatically be disconnected after 20 minutes idle time.*
We also reserve the right to
1 - Limit online usage to 12 hours in any 24 period
2 - Limit online session to 2 hours. After which you can reconnect immediately.
*Idle time is defined as time on line when no data has been transmitted by the Customer to the Service or has been received by the Customer using the Service.

Q. What happens if I exceed my allocated time?
A. If you exceed your allocated time you will be charged eircom net Free Internet call charges for any excess. eircom net Free call charges.
Price per minute* (incl. VAT) :
Daytime (8am - 6pm Mon - Fri.) 5.07c
Evening (6pm - 8am) Mon - Thurs. 1.26c
Weekend (6pm Fri. - 8am Mon.) 1.26c
*A minimum call charge of 6.35c applies. Allocated time: The amount of call charge free time provided as part of the package

damien

Luxembourg:

http://www.internet.lu/cal_home/20030707140930.htm

€34/month for 10 hours at 1024/128kbps or
€34/month for 1 Gig download at 1024/128kbps or
€46/month for no time/no cap at 1024/128kbps

damien

Spain:
Wanadoo
http://www.wanadoo.es/accesos/adsl/
512kbps / 128kbps.
Modem and Wifi Router included.
€45.24 a month

Jazztel
http://www.jazztel.com/mic_adsl1mb.htm
1024kbps / 128kbps
Free local/national phonecalls
€38.22 a month

kenped

Update to the norwegian tabell:

Adsl 2 launced:

Nextgentel:
12 000 / 1500 (no not a typo,, speed 12mbit down and 1,5 up)
Price: 998 NKR / 125 Euro

25 000 / 150 (no still not a typo, Speed 25mbit down and 1,5 up)
Price: 1398 NKR / 175 Euro

otheridiot

[url]www.swisscom.com:[/url]
Bluewin
ADSL 600
600 Kbit/s
100 Kbit/s CHF 49.-/month (aprox Eur32)

Bluewin
ADSL 1200
1200 Kbit/s
200 Kbit/s CHF 69.-/month (approx Eur45)

Bluewin
ADSL 2400
2400 Kbit/s
200 Kbit/s CHF 99.-/month (approx Eur64)

www.sunrise.ch offer the same deals and prices as above but the highest speed connection is 98CHF rather than 99CHF. They also give one month free.

www.cablecom.ch
hispeed 600 600 100 CHF45(Eur29)

hispeed 1000 1000 200 CHF 60(Eur39)

hispeed 2000 2000 400 CHF 75(Eur48)

hispeed 3000 3000 800 CHF 150(Eur97)


Couldn't get any details for swisscable

enjoy

damien

Finland:

Got this via email:

http://saunalahti.fi/internet/adsl/

Prices vary from 24e/month to 28e/month, depending whether saunalahti
has copper on that area or not.
All prices in Finland include VAT.
Service is 512k/512k (no download limits in finland)

http://isp.surfnet.fi/productsprivate.php?Action=showProduct&productid=2
8&e=47

Price varies from 29e/month to 33e/month depending on the area.

These are prices for the ADSL connection. To rent the line will add
2e/month.

Setup fees varies from 50e/150e depending if one has land line contract
or not.

damien

Almost finished now.

For the EU-15 table we need:
Portugal

For the OECD we need:
Czech Republic
Hungary
Iceland
Mexico
New Zealand
Slovak Republic
Turkey

damien

Portugal:

http://adsl.sapo.pt/
512Kbps/128Kbps
€34.99
20gb national traffic cap
2gb int traffic cap

damien

Czech Republic

http://www.telecom.cz/internetexpres/
€32.09 inc vat
1024/256kbits

damien

New Zealand:
€34.07
http://www.telecom.co.nz/chm/0,5123,203071-202479,00.html
1Mbps / 128kbps

damien

Anyone speak Slovak or Hungarian ?

http://www.telecom.sk/Default.aspx?CatID=521&Section=smallbusiness

http://www.tvnet.hu/main.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=41&meid=8

damien

Mexico:
http://www.prodigy.com.mx/infinitum_adsl/
$599 a year for 512/128 kbps
$49.99 a month
Which is €37.40 a month

Gone West

Phoenix, Arizona (thats where I'm living now for a while)

I use Cox High Speed Internet http://www.cox.com/highspeedinternet/
as you can see the 5.5mbit line costs $55 per month (E40).
My upload is 768Kbit
And I have no download or upload caps. In fact the lady at the internet counter didnt even understand what a cap/limit was.

Not to mention the 80 tv channels included.

damien

Slovak Republic
http://www.slovanet.sk/menu/adsl_cennik.html
€27.715576
2048/256kbps

damien

damien.m wrote:

Hungarian

http://www.tvnet.hu/main.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=41&meid=8

Maximal charge seems to be HUF 6990 = €28.64
512/128kbps ADSL

damien

Thanks to Yoda for translating Hungarian and Slovakian.

damien

Iceland:

http://www.siminn.is/control/index?pid=32632
3.820kr for ADSL 1000
€48

(Just remember a can of coke in Iceland is €3 and a pint is €8 )

damien

http://www.dslturk.com/
€34.37
512k/128k

damien

Japan: http://www.bbapply.com/


50 Mbps Download & 3 Mbps Upload
Includes BBPhone, Yahoo's IP phone service
€30 per month

damien

More from Iceland. Thanks to theTarget

OgVodafone

It is free to download within iceland, but they charge 2,49kr for every extra MB downloaded (up to price guarantee). This price guarantee they've got is odd. They say you never pay for more than 2GB foreign downloading in 1mb/s, 2mb/s and 3mb/s. Sundays are "days off", you can get 500 MB extra download every sunday (or 500 mbs for the sum of all mondays in a month.. they're not clear on which it is).

Speed up to - Speed from - Download - Price - Max Price you'll have to pay

1 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 100 MB - €48 - €108.
1 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 1 GB - €64 - €96.
1 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 2 GB - €76 - €76.
2 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 100 MB - €61 - €121.
2 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 1 GB - €76 - €108.
2 Mb/s - 512 Kb/s - 2 GB - €89 - €89
3 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 100 MB - €68 - €129.
3 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 1 GB - €84 - €116.
3 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 2 GB - €97 - €97
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 100 MB - €92 - Does not apply
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 1 GB - €108 - Does not apply
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 2 GB - €121 - Does not apply
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 4 GB - €147 - Does not apply
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 6 GB - €172 - Does not apply
6 Mb/s - 832 Kb/s - 10 GB - €232 - Does not apply

Oh and in the base subscription i mentioned earlier, with speed of 256kb/s to 512kb/s, no foreign download and monthly price of 2990 kr. has a price of 4,99 kr for every "extra" MB downloaded from a foreign source.

I'm not completely clear on what the "Speed up to" and "Speed from" are.


Siminn

(Free download within Iceland too.)

ADSL 1000
100MB Transfer - €48
750MB Transfer - €59
2GB Transfer - €78
4GB Transfer - €81

ADSL 2000
100MB Transfer - €60
750MB Transfer - €71
2GB Transfer - €90
4GB Transfer - €94

ADSL 3000
100MB Transfer - €73
750MB Transfer - €84
2GB Transfer - €103
4GB Transfer - €106

ISDN (Just as info I guess...)
200MB Transfer - €17
850MB Transfer - €35


Hive
Free setup and connection.
4Mb connection - 2GB transfer for €50
Unlimited - inside and outside Iceland.

damien

We're getting good feedback from people who saw our price table and are sending us links to other providers who offer other entry level packages. Please keep adding to this list as we are going to publish updates every quarter now. It's been said we're cherry picking the cheapest providers so here are other providers including incumbents. Still way cheaper you'll note.

Thrunet:
http://english.thrunet.com/service/multi_cable.asp
Cable Operator in South Korea.
€31.97

DSL: http://english.thrunet.com/service/multi_adsl.asp
€24.18

TUT: http://english.thrunet.com/service/multi_tut.asp
€24.44

Hanaro:
http://www.hanaro.com/eng/iproduct/vne_vlite.asp
31,660 Won (€23.7956) per month for VDSL/XDSL

Korea Telecom:
http://www.letskt.com/en/Product/Service_contents.jsp?mn=1110&scode=1110&sname=Megapass%20ADSL
24.8129 for 4Mbps/ 640Kbps

or for anyone in Apt complexes you can get 100Mbps/100Mbps for €25.71

*Edit*
Remove €4 a month as all prices included equipment rental, which you apparently don't have to take. You can use your own.


Cheaper Japanese packages on the way.

AndrewMc

For the next list could line rental be included as another column or something? I know you don't want to clutter the list, but it'd be nice to remind the media we really are getting screwed on the rental as well.

cgarvey

I 2nd that!

damien

Drapper ^^^^ I posted some of them a few posts up on this page.

damien

Got sent this by email about Japan:

As you mentioned in your article, DSL in japan is an old technology that is no
longer the option of choice (I would go for fibre).

Anyway, even sticking with DSL, and looking at the options available from the
Japanese equivalent of eircom - NTT , you can get a dsl service
http://flets.com/adsl/index.html
with Download - 47Mbps, Upload 5Mbps, including line rental &
VAT for 3738yen = 27.08 euros

This is much more bandwidth & still cheaper than the 30 euro price you have
listed for Japan.

Note that NTT is the ex state monopoly (like eircom) is usually the most
expensive supplier, and most people would not be going for the DSL service
anyway since the FTTH solution provides 100Mbps up and down for about 3150yen
for those living in apartments. And then if you choose a carrier other than
NTT of course both packages would be far cheaper.

eircomtribunal

damien.m wrote:

Got sent this by email about Japan:

Damien, could you ask your Japanese contact for an explanation why Japan ranks as the most expensive country in some of the EC pricing tables (where they sometimes add US and Japan for reasons of comparison)?

For example here or here or here.

P.