Indian newspaper comments on Irish Internet penetration

zod

Taken from http://www.indiadaily.com/breaking_news/20765.asp


"But despite the number of global technology firms with operations in Ireland, the country has one of the lowest rates of domestic Internet use in Europe. Many telephone lines in the country are said to be too old or too remote to support high-speed access to the Internet"

damien

Wow, nice. If every company that was thinking of coming to Ireland read that then I'm sure Micheál Martin would be quite vexed.

Zaph

Sounds like the Indians are declaring war in an attempt to corner some of this business for themselves. Being in Europe might be the only advantage we have over them when US companies are looking for overseas sites.

seamus

Yeah it sounds like a fist-shaking jealousy paragraph, but it's still something that no Minister wants to see written about our infrastructure.

OfflerCrocGod

seamus wrote:

Yeah it sounds like a fist-shaking jealousy paragraph, but it's still something that no Minister wants to see written about our infrastructure.

It's the truth.

Sangre

zaph wrote:

Sounds like the Indians are declaring war in an attempt to corner some of this business for themselves. Being in Europe might be the only advantage we have over them when US companies are looking for overseas sites.

More specifically the EU, which is a big plus. Its up to foreign companies to decide if its worth the poor infrastructure and high labour costs. There is also the matter of are tax breaks for multinationals.
Tbh, India realise we are one of their biggest competitors and they've decided to do something about it.

Our man in Havana

Sounds like the indians are after more call centres.

BrianD

Bit rich coming from a country that failed to warn its own people of the incoming tsunami. India can point out its hot spots where there is high broadband penetration and so on just like Ireland can. There seems to be no difficulty in large scale businesses obtaining the connectivity. Its the home user and small/medium size enterprises that have more difficulty.

dub45

BrianD wrote:

Bit rich coming from a country that failed to warn its own people of the incoming tsunami. India can point out its hot spots where there is high broadband penetration and so on just like Ireland can. There seems to be no difficulty in large scale businesses obtaining the connectivity. Its the home user and small/medium size enterprises that have more difficulty.

Given our own experience with flooding and Dublin City Council's unwillingness and inability to do such a basic thing as keep shores clear of muck I would not give too much for our chances with a tsunami!

BrianD

Just as well we're not living in a tsunami prone zone!

Seriously though, we quadruppled the amount of capacity (fibre) coming into the building and the price has come down considerably.

bus77

BrianD wrote:

Seriously though, we quadruppled the amount of capacity (fibre) coming into the building and the price has come down considerably.

But they have a billion people to employ, so they fight harder. And rightly so.

yop

"Quote:
Originally Posted by seamus
Yeah it sounds like a fist-shaking jealousy paragraph, but it's still something that no Minister wants to see written about our infrastructure.

It's the truth."

Well that is it exactly, it is a bloody disgrace. I see NI have full broadband coverage, I get 14 fkning K at home! Arrgghhh

Capt'n Midnight

compuscope jan 05 - page 38 - Top 20 IT mistakes #3

...At his previous employer, the manage opened a branch office in India for software development and encountered numerous suprises, many counter to the conventional offshoring wisdom.
At the time, India had been esperiencing an IT employment boom similar to that of Ireland in the late '90's. According to the manager, the workforce was not stable as a result. Transportation difficulties and the importance of time with family in Indian culture meant that employees generally worked eight-hour days -- the concept of the Dublin engineer who goes sleepless at release time was, well, foreign.
In the end, the cost of offshoring the branch office was only 20 percent less than the going rate ay home, and for cultural reasons, far more face time than initially expected was needed to ensure the commitment...

Sounds like they have better quality of life in some respects too. Tele-commuting is just not an option for most Irish people because of the lack of infrastructure. It costs a grand or two to setup a tele-commuter for a year (inc fixed rate BB etc.) so this is actually the cheapest way of reducing traffic congestion and since the NRA is spending billions, using 2 billion to REPLACE eircom's network and use it for tele-commuting would be cheaper and faster than building linear car parks. Sounds daft but the lack of BB / public transport means that everyone is paying for roads with taxes that would not be as vital if we had BB or decent public transport /RANT

Capt'n Midnight

compuscope jan 05 - page 38 - Top 20 IT mistakes #3

...At his previous employer, the manage opened a branch office in India for software development and encountered numerous suprises, many counter to the conventional offshoring wisdom.
At the time, India had been esperiencing an IT employment boom similar to that of Ireland in the late '90's. According to the manager, the workforce was not stable as a result. Transportation difficulties and the importance of time with family in Indian culture meant that employees generally worked eight-hour days -- the concept of the Dublin engineer who goes sleepless at release time was, well, foreign.
In the end, the cost of offshoring the branch office was only 20 percent less than the going rate ay home, and for cultural reasons, far more face time than initially expected was needed to ensure the commitment...

Sounds like they have better quality of life in some respects too. Tele-commuting is just not an option for most Irish people because of the lack of infrastructure. It costs a grand or two to setup a tele-commuter for a year (inc fixed rate BB etc.) so this is actually the cheapest way of reducing traffic congestion and since the NRA is spending billions, using 2 billion to REPLACE eircom's network and use it for tele-commuting would be cheaper and faster than building linear car parks. Sounds daft but the lack of BB / public transport means that everyone is paying for roads with taxes that would not be as vital if we had BB or decent public transport /RANT

pork99

yop wrote:

I see NI have full broadband coverage, I get 14 fkning K at home! Arrgghhh

Never mind India, Northern Ireland could "eat our lunch". It's in the EU, lower labour costs, better infrastructure, if they could match our corporate tax rates (and get the old political stability thing right) they'd kick our collective ass.