NTL acting up D15

Drapper

RicardoSmith wrote:

Where are you getting the signal from with IBB.

Ballycoolin :-)


C:\>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 62.231.50.113
2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms ballycoolin-vl-vlan-4.irishbroadband.ie
3 5 ms 78 ms 4 ms tallaght-et-1-7.irishbroadband.ie ]
4 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 62.231.52.125
5 19 ms 23 ms 20 ms lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net
6 21 ms 69 ms 20 ms lon1-9.nildram.net [195.66.224.59]
7 18 ms 21 ms 18 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
8 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 82.133.85.65

Trace complete.

Drapper

I am MAN wrote:

Well you could start with telling me why exactly my ping is going to be bad...

The NTL pings are terrible here m8 and I've been on thier case for a while ! They have admitte there is a problem in the area !

So if its gaming you want avoid until they have it resolved also P2P's are not stable so if your planning dl's all night dont be surprised if you get up in the morm and files are not in !! It sometimes just stops !!

All and all it a:- SH1T

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 291 ms 113 ms 61 ms 10.135.103.254 (THIS IS THE FIRST HOP TO THE NTL SERVER !!! WHY SO HIGH??)
2 167 ms 700 ms 114 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
3 88 ms 87 ms 66 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
4 60 ms 683 ms 103 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
5 106 ms 74 ms 43 ms ren-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.41]
6 72 ms 53 ms 668 ms ren-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.185]
7 666 ms 123 ms 79 ms bre-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.166]
8 95 ms 79 ms 85 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
9 73 ms 607 ms 53 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
10 69 ms 98 ms 76 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
11 93 ms 65 ms 122 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
12 124 ms 601 ms 107 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]


and

1 78 ms 68 ms 36 ms 10.135.103.254 (THIS IS THE FIRST HOP TO THE NTL SERVER !!! WHY SO HIGH??)
2 56 ms 55 ms 56 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
3 50 ms 112 ms 613 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
4 91 ms 544 ms 40 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
5 77 ms 57 ms 184 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 101 ms 48 ms 74 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]
7 227 ms 555 ms 107 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 60 ms 83 ms 80 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
9 84 ms 92 ms 535 ms win-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.162]
10 534 ms 59 ms 68 ms pop-bb-a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.201]
11 81 ms 94 ms 74 ms tele-ic-2-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.86]
12 108 ms 90 ms 126 ms lon1-10.nildram.net [213.208.106.169]
13 91 ms 540 ms 75 ms 84.12.225.130
14 71 ms 72 ms 63 ms jolt-gw.nildram.net [195.149.20.126]
15 77 ms 71 ms 91 ms 195.149.21.112

Trace complete.

I am MAN

If I find the download rates are not acceptable they will be getting it back and I will stick with Eircom.

Drapper

I am MAN wrote:

If I find the download rates are not acceptable they will be getting it back and I will stick with Eircom.

They can give the 1.5 meg dl but the pings are crap ! ask them tomorrow if ther is a problem with gaming in the area, say you herd there was pings issues, come back and let us know ;-)

I wonder what they will say to that !

I am MAN

I couldnt be bothered because im not really a gamer anymore...once the downloads acceptable and downtime is very low I will be happy

Drapper

I am MAN wrote:

I couldnt be bothered because im not really a gamer anymore...once the downloads acceptable and downtime is very low I will be happy

Well dont say you have not been warned !!

holly_johnson

Drapper,

Im on NTL in Springlawn and this is my pings:

tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.135.167.254
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-104.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.45]

3 30 ms 11 ms 8 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]

4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]

5 33 ms 42 ms 25 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 17 ms 22 ms 30 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]

7 16 ms 72 ms 67 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 21 ms 34 ms 21 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

9 27 ms 25 ms 28 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]

10 23 ms 27 ms 73 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
11 23 ms 22 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]

12 33 ms 22 ms 23 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
13 23 ms 27 ms 24 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
14 23 ms 29 ms 24 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

Looks alright to me!!! This is fairly consistent since the beginning... so maybe it's not all of D15?

Couch Potato

holly_johnson wrote:

I suppose it depends on where in Blanch you are... I have a feeling the node on the Atrium building is full now, because my signal has gone to the dogs in the last couple of weeks. I don't know if they have nodes elsewhere. As an aside, I wouldn't touch IBB Ripwave with a bargepole again... I only used it as a stopgap until ntl came along as cant use Eircom over phonewatch alarm.

Spoke to IBB during the week as I noticed from their maps they were putting a base site in the Clonsilla area - appears to be going on the mast down at the Railway station and will offer the Breeze and Ripwave products ...

Drapper

holly_johnson wrote:

Drapper,

Im on NTL in Springlawn and this is my pings:

tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 8 ms 7 ms 5 ms 10.135.167.254
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-104.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.45]

3 30 ms 11 ms 8 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]

4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]

5 33 ms 42 ms 25 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
6 17 ms 22 ms 30 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]

7 16 ms 72 ms 67 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
8 21 ms 34 ms 21 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]

9 27 ms 25 ms 28 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]

10 23 ms 27 ms 73 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
11 23 ms 22 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]

12 33 ms 22 ms 23 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
13 23 ms 27 ms 24 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
14 23 ms 29 ms 24 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

Looks alright to me!!! This is fairly consistent since the beginning... so maybe it's not all of D15?

Where is springlawn ?

I am MAN

Drapper wrote:

Where is springlawn ?

It is the the next estate down from Summerfield, I can see it from where I sit an 8 foot wall seperates the pair.

Drapper

I am MAN wrote:

It is the the next estate down from Summerfield, I can see it from where I sit an 8 foot wall seperates the pair.

Near Clonsilla station?

Stench Blossoms

holly_johnson wrote:

It can be used, but it costs a bomb to get it working. Eircom insist on sending out an engineer to do something to the phone line 300 euros. Then phnewatch need to come out and do something else to the phone line, another 200 euros so I was told by Eircom and phonewatch.... so technically you can get it in, but why would you bother for that money???

Get NTL for free!

I have phonewatch and i got it. Cost 70 for the eircom technician to come out and that was it. Dont no where your getting your figures from.

RicardoSmith

Well check out my pings... :mad:

C:\>tracert bnc1.m4dgaming.com

Tracing route to bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

01 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms cpc4-inch1-3-0-cust97.dbln.cable.ntl.com [82.9.175.97]
02 33 ms 55 ms 20 ms 10.135.103.254
03 35 ms 182 ms 46 ms dbln-cam-1a-ge03-103.inet.ntl.com [82.9.146.25]
04 30 ms 14 ms 239 ms dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.5]
05 70 ms 88 ms 67 ms dbln-bb-a-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.53]
06 102 ms 86 ms 36 ms dbln-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.49]
07 117 ms 185 ms 335 ms man-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.45]
08 30 ms 42 ms 47 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
09 28 ms 30 ms 151 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
10 73 ms 36 ms 127 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]
11 113 ms 157 ms 63 ms bre-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.86]
12 122 ms 52 ms 26 ms redb-ic-1-so-010-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.106]
13 179 ms 52 ms 114 ms fe-2-0-999-br1.hex.as9153.net [217.79.160.57]
14 87 ms 31 ms 346 ms ge-3-3-700-cr1.sov.as9153.net [82.136.0.199]
15 35 ms 178 ms 149 ms bnc1.m4dgaming.com [82.136.16.61]

Trace complete.

C:\>

Downloads and browsing the web is fine. But this would be dire for gaming.

I am MAN

Drapper wrote:

Near Clonsilla station?

No alot alot further down....near Roselawn...towards ulster bank/credit union/garda station.

holly_johnson

orla wrote:

I have phonewatch and i got it. Cost 70 for the eircom technician to come out and that was it. Dont no where your getting your figures from.

That was the figure quoted to me by Eircom, and then by the Phonewatch guy that serviced my alarm. I wasn't going to order it to find out it was cheaper! The Phonewatch guy told me that if they didn't come out after the Eircom guy, that there could be an issue where they wouldn't support the alarm! After hearing that crap I decided not to bother... both companies under the Eircom umbrella but won't even do a deal amongst themselves!
If it works for you, fine, but it most definitely was not for me!

I am MAN

holly_johnson wrote:

That was the figure quoted to me by Eircom, and then by the Phonewatch guy that serviced my alarm. I wasn't going to order it to find out it was cheaper! The Phonewatch guy told me that if they didn't come out after the Eircom guy, that there could be an issue where they wouldn't support the alarm! After hearing that crap I decided not to bother... both companies under the Eircom umbrella but won't even do a deal amongst themselves!
If it works for you, fine, but it most definitely was not for me!

I work for eircom and whoever told you that must have been new

holly_johnson

Maybe they were, but after hearing that, do you think I was going to order? No way! I don;t know who to believe in that company ( no offense!) every time I talk to them I get different responses.....

Drapper

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

RicardoSmith

Drapper wrote:

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

Should that not be "...we are sailing...we are SAILING....across the..."

Sorry, slow morning.

holly_johnson

Drapper wrote:

NTL thread guys !! we are drifting !!

Sorry Drapper, I consider my wrist slapped lol

Drapper

holly_johnson wrote:

Sorry Drapper, I consider my wrist slapped lol

;-) m8 I just pissed off that i got IBB cancelled and NTL is not delivering, and the engineers are coming to take away my lovely IBB areil !! might let them leave it !!

Would you believe I as getting 25 - 35 on IBB and 90 - 500 on NTL a product with more bandwidth !!

holly_johnson

Drapper wrote:

;-) m8 I just pissed off that i got IBB cancelled and NTL is not delivering, and the engineers are coming to take away my lovely IBB areil !! might let them leave it !!

Would you believe I as getting 25 - 35 on IBB and 90 - 500 on NTL a product with more bandwidth !!

I don't understand your poor performance, as I have had no problems... you're in Castleknock, right?
I wonder is your house older, that maybe the cable into it is not as good quality or something? I feel for you, as I had the opposite problems with IBB and ther is nothing more annoying. Just keep ringing them and pointing out that others in the local vicinity are getting fine responses, so why not you?

Drapper

holly_johnson wrote:

I don't understand your poor performance, as I have had no problems... you're in Castleknock, right?
I wonder is your house older, that maybe the cable into it is not as good quality or something? I feel for you, as I had the opposite problems with IBB and ther is nothing more annoying. Just keep ringing them and pointing out that others in the local vicinity are getting fine responses, so why not you?

House is 5 years old! They have accepted ther eis a problem in my area. I'm living near the Carpenter pub in Luttrelstown. A new area. They said they will sort it out with new gear ! I will wait !

Are you a gamer? I get good pings on one or two tests like yours but try a proper test over an hour and you will see what I mean !! ;-) maybe

RicardoSmith

I have the same problem with NTL in the same area.

holly_johnson

I'm not a gamer yet, haven't got any decent games to play with lack of funds at the mo.
I'll try a longer test for you if you want... what would you like, a constant ping to www.jolt.co.uk??

Let me know and I can stick it in a txt file and post it up here for you later (in work at the mo)

Drapper

holly_johnson wrote:

I'm not a gamer yet, haven't got any decent games to play with lack of funds at the mo.
I'll try a longer test for you if you want... what would you like, a constant ping to www.jolt.co.uk??

Let me know and I can stick it in a txt file and post it up here for you later (in work at the mo)

yup jolt will do ! :-)

holly_johnson

Okey doke, I'll try and do that tonight for you.

Nevyn

Yes NTL are rolling out ot all the 'nice' and 'new' estates.
All the private estate on the huntstown/hartstown horseshoe ,
castleknock even the apartments at the shopping centre
but non of the older 'mixed' estates between .

daymobrew

Send ping/traceroute/tracert logs to customer.support@ ntl.ie too.

but none of the older 'mixed' estates between .

There might be an element of 'luck' here - it all depends on the state and quality of the supply cables in place. For my 6 year old estate (Riverwood, near Coolmine train station) they only had to put in 2 way switches (to allow data go upstream). In some parts of Riverwood they can't get ntl bb! I don't know why.

Drapper

daymobrew wrote:

Send ping/traceroute/tracert logs to customer.support@ ntl.ie too.


There might be an element of 'luck' here - it all depends on the state and quality of the supply cables in place. For my 6 year old estate (Riverwood, near Coolmine train station) they only had to put in 2 way switches (to allow data go upstream). In some parts of Riverwood they can't get ntl bb! I don't know why.

i'm in Luttrelstown across from you, we have it but the pings are really bad, how about you ?