Djemba-Djemba to Villa

_blank_ · 31-01-2005 11:15am #1

Manchester United have apparently accepted a bid by O'Leary for Djemba-Djemba.

He could do well there.

MrJoeSoap · 31-01-2005 11:18am

Who could? I dont rate Djemba² at all, reckon Fergie would be doin well to get some money for him.

Villain · 31-01-2005 11:21am

I just read that, and I'm pretty happy, think he coudl do well and the fee will probably be under £3 million so it's not a massive gamble. Give him a chance I reckon.

I see Bellamy has turned down the Birminghan, now if we got him as well it would be good business.

BolBill · 31-01-2005 11:26am

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Who could? I dont rate Djemba² at all, reckon Fergie would be doin well to get some money for him.

I agree, don't rate him at all, in fact, he doesn't resemble a professional footballer at all.

Still good oul David O'Leary (Seth Johnsons best mate)

talla · 31-01-2005 11:28am

Never rated Djemba myself, great bit of business to get rid of him if we can.

SteM · 31-01-2005 11:30am

I think players have certain levels they will do well at. Djemba-Djemba could do a decent job for Villa, he won't have the sort of scrutiny that he's currently under that's for sure.

_blank_ · 31-01-2005 11:33am

He's a decent enough player, it just never happened for him at OT, look at Forlan, playing well now in La Liga.

Give him a chance at least before writing him off completely.

therecklessone · 31-01-2005 11:34am

irish1 wrote:

I just read that, and I'm pretty happy, think he coudl do well and the fee will probably be under £3 million so it's not a massive gamble. Give him a chance I reckon.

Anything over £500,000 would be a waste. He's done nothing in English football.

For £3 million Villa could have had:

Dean Ashton
Danny Murphy
Wayne Routledge
Bobo Balde

And the last two would have left a significant chunk of change...

yop · 31-01-2005 11:35am

Umm I don't know, not sure if he is up to it, but in fairness as per Forlan he really has not been given a run in the team, 1 game here, 1 game a month later is not going to do it,
Forlan is scoring for fun now in Spain, 2 more last nite

Villain · 31-01-2005 11:37am

Just read his profile on manutdzone and it states:

In his first year at Old Trafford the Cameroon star failed to make much of an impact due to continual interruption. Not only did he pick up injuries but his mother became seriously ill and he was forced to return to Africa to look after her. Then a call up to Cameroon for the African Nations Cup meant he missed at least the entire months of January and Feburary.

He's only 23, give him a chance people.

_blank_ · 31-01-2005 11:38am

Another thing about this is the fact that Djemba squared might not want to go to Villa.

He might decide to stay at Manchester United.

But at the end of the day, if Ferguson wants him gone, then he probably will go.

LegacyUser · 31-01-2005 11:48am

I like Djemba. Why get rid of him when he is only 23?

MrJoeSoap · 31-01-2005 11:49am

seansouth wrote:

if Ferguson wants him gone, then he probably will go.

Aint no probably about it there !

Töpher · 31-01-2005 12:04pm

seansouth wrote:

Another thing about this is the fact that Djemba squared might not want to go to Villa.

He might decide to stay at Manchester United.

But at the end of the day, if Ferguson wants him gone, then he probably will go.

But he might actually want to be allowed onto the pitch...

cournioni · 31-01-2005 12:18pm

Never really thought much of Mumbo Jumbo, he had a poor touch and couldn't pass. He had strength, but that was just about all he had.

Now to get rid of Miller, Bellion, Richardson, Kleberson etc...

_blank_ · 31-01-2005 12:23pm

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Now to get rid of Miller, Bellion, Richardson, Kleberson etc...

Miller, are you serious?

Can't see Ferguson letting him go, he is a decent player, but his oppurtunities have been limited in his time at Old Trafford.

of the other three, I'd be happy for Kleberson to stay.

cournioni · 31-01-2005 12:30pm

He's too light. And really watching him play he is a liability as are the other players I have mentioned. Ronaldo can sometimes be a liability too but he shows hints of genious every time he's on the pitch which sets him apart from the rest.

Miller is 24, its not like he's going to grow much. Which is what he needs IMO. He gets pushed off the ball too much. Fletcher on the other hand is 20 and has a couple of years to build up his strength, passing, control etc. he has the height.

kida · 31-01-2005 12:55pm

Agree with you on Miller - hes not going to cut it a that level. Decent buy for a mid table or ambitous Champ team.

Kleberson deserves a decent chance - I think he could still do a job. Has had no luck with injuries. He has shown flashes when he has played to suggest has has the abillity.

Bellion will be next to go

eirebhoy · 31-01-2005 1:01pm

Good player, good buy.

The Muppet · 31-01-2005 2:11pm

I rate Djemba X 2, he never got time to settle in United midfiel but he has shown signs that he could be a good player. Good buy for Villa but I hope he Stays. Any takers for kleb Bellion or Howard ?I still Think Howard is an excellent keeper but Fergie obviouly favors the Arsenal bound[rumour]Carrol for the No 1 spot.

SteM · 31-01-2005 2:14pm

eirebhoy wrote:

Good player, good buy.

I never saw him play for Nantes but I've not seen anything from him since he joined United to suggest that he's either of those things.

'Decent player, bit of a gamble' might be closer to the mark?

dirkey_wynne · 31-01-2005 4:31pm

seansouth wrote:

Miller, are you serious?

Can't see Ferguson letting him go, he is a decent player, but his oppurtunities have been limited in his time at Old Trafford.

of the other three, I'd be happy for Kleberson to stay.

No, I'd agree that they all need to go. Miller isn't good enough, too light weight, gives the ball away. I'm all for giving players time, if I feel they've shown anything worth keeping them on. My gut is usually quite good, and my gut tells me Miller will never make it at OT. As a Cork man I hope he does make it, but I really don't think he will. I'd be happy if we sold him.

eirebhoy · 31-01-2005 5:12pm

SteM wrote:

I never saw him play for Nantes but I've not seen anything from him since he joined United to suggest that he's either of those things.

'Decent player, bit of a gamble' might be closer to the mark?

I was one of the few people to predict Forlan being a success at Villareal.

I think both Kleberson and Djemba are good players, very few players play to their best at United.

Iago · 31-01-2005 5:39pm

Djemba-Djemba has signed a 4 and a half year deal at villa

eirebhoy · 31-01-2005 5:46pm

Lads, when he joined United he said he wanted to be called Djemba, since then Fergie and his teammates call him that. Why do people (and pundits, commentators, reporters, etc, etc, etc.) still call him Djemba-Djemba or Djemba x 2? Even United fans.

Töpher · 31-01-2005 5:54pm

What did he have on his shirt?

smemon · 31-01-2005 6:02pm

good deal for utd i suppose, getting a few bob for a reserve free's up funds which suggests fergie is thinking of buying in the summer. (having been told the only way he'll buy is if he sells)

djemba will do well i'd say, the constant criticism at utd from outsiders is only because he's at utd. he can tackle and isnt afraid of anyone which makes him valuable when your trying to hang onto a lead. his passing is poor but given time and a low-profile (lower than manu) he could turn out to be a useful player.

not 1st team utd standard, no doubt about that. but a worker none the less. celtic or the likes would have suited him better as his game is more physical than mental.

Villain · 31-01-2005 8:12pm

We only paid 1.3 million for him!!!!!

Now at that money he's certianly worth taking a chance on.

smemon · 31-01-2005 8:49pm

irish1 wrote:

We only paid 1.3 million for him!!!!!

Now at that money he's certianly worth taking a chance on.

agreed, but i wouldnt call it taking a chance, he's an experienced player at international level aswell as in the champs league, plus he's only 23. 1.3m might even be slightly under-priced.

his every move was closely wacthed at OT, every pass noted, every stride recorded, examined by everyone. that is why people think he's a flop because he didnt impress the perfectionists at OT. at villa park it'll be different, no cameras, no glamour, just football and tbh i think thats what he wants, just to play football.

Draupnir · 31-01-2005 9:23pm

hes a good player, ive seen a bit of him playing for cameroon and from what ive read, he just didnt fit in too well at United. I reckon he will do well at Villa Park but its a very big gamble by David O leary, especially with the shortage of money from Doug Ellis.

Could be one of those transfers that costs the manager his job if it goes bad.

Jivin Turkey · 31-01-2005 9:32pm

From what Ive seen of Djemba he is chronically poor. I really dont think he can cut it. Villa also have a few decent midfielders which makes the buy a bit puzzling, Hendrie/McCann/Berson (who is reportedly doing very well). None of them are pure holding midfielders like Djemba, which might be his only chance.

There is a big difference between himself and Forlan. Forlan going to Spain was always going to help his career, Djemba has only moved a hundred miles or so.

wheres me jumpa · 31-01-2005 10:52pm

thought djemba was going to be good but all he has going for him is his strength. he might do a job for villa but he needs to improve greatly. his passing is very bad.

klebrson could be a good player but im not sure what his best position is. fergie was playing him as a second striker/fifth midfielder which is hard to play as you can be left completely out of the game at times. id like to see play in a four man midfield along side keane but i doubt that will ever happen.

miller should be given more of a chance, i have been very impressed with him, granted he has some bad performances but i think he can do a job for utd, maybe he will get his chance now djemba gone.

Dewey · 31-01-2005 11:10pm

United paid £3.5 million for him. So to get £3million for him i think is still good business. Djemba was poor when ever he played for United and i glad to see him go but he might of gotten use to the Premiership if a few years when he reaches his peck. But just watch, now that he is gone to Villa he will be outstanding for them. Just like most flops who leave United.

eirebhoy · 31-01-2005 11:15pm

Dewey wrote:

United paid £3.5 million for him. So to get £3million for him i think is still good business.

Where did you get 3m from?

Töpher · 01-02-2005 12:37am

Dewey wrote:

United paid £3.5 million for him. So to get £3million for him i think is still good business. Djemba was poor when ever he played for United and i glad to see him go but he might of gotten use to the Premiership if a few years when he reaches his peck. But just watch, now that he is gone to Villa he will be outstanding for them. Just like most flops who leave United.

It was £1.35m, with possibility of £0.5m more depending on appearances. All totalled, a MAXIMUM of LESS than £1.9m.

Good business what now?

evilhomer · 01-02-2005 12:47am

Djemba is a really good player IMO and at that price who could argue?

He will make his few mistakes here and there, but won't get abused for it at Villa!
O'Leary is great at bringing on young players!
wouldn't be suprised if he makes a name for himself at Villa Park.

Good Luck to him I say.

Töpher · 01-02-2005 12:53am

Also, I read on the BBC606 boards, so it may/not be true, the £1.35m is to be paid over 4 years, thats pretty much 300k a year, absolute pennies!

SteM · 01-02-2005 9:19am

eirebhoy wrote:

I was one of the few people to predict Forlan being a success at Villareal.

Not that you're boasting or anything

Can't really compare Forlan to Djemba-Djemba. Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he was playing poorly for United. I think a lot of people saw that he had potential but he was just struggling at United where he got off to a poor start. A move to a different league was the right thing for him, DJDJ is going to be playing in the same league where he's already looked below par. Only time will tell though but I still don't think we've seen anything from his play in England that will show that he's going to be any more than average.

Villain · 01-02-2005 9:29am

SteM wrote:

Not that you're boasting or anything

Can't really compare Forlan to Djemba-Djemba. Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he was playing poorly for United. I think a lot of people saw that he had potential but he was just struggling at United where he got off to a poor start. A move to a different league was the right thing for him, DJDJ is going to be playing in the same league where he's already looked below par. Only time will tell though but I still don't think we've seen anything from his play in England that will show that he's going to be any more than average.

Djemba, has played well for Cameroon! I doubt a manager of Sir Alex's ability would have signed him if hadn't got something good to give.

Spalk0 · 01-02-2005 9:39am

Well being a United fan im glad to see him go!Only the very odd time he had a decent but that lad used to drive me nuts the amount of times he gave the ball away from a careless pass or whatever!And looking to Uniteds squad we have plenty of central midfield players! Djemba Djemba was just surplus to requirements!

SteM · 01-02-2005 9:51am

irish1 wrote:

Djemba, has played well for Cameroon!

Where did I say he hadn't? I said

I think a lot of people saw that he had potential but he was just struggling at United where he got off to a poor start. A move to a different league was the right thing for him, DJDJ is going to be playing in the same league where he's already looked below par. Only time will tell though but I still don't think we've seen anything from his play in England that will show that he's going to be any more than average.

Villain · 01-02-2005 10:15am

SteM wrote:

Where did I say he hadn't? I said

SteM wrote:

Can't really compare Forlan to Djemba-Djemba. Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he was playing poorly for United.

SteM · 01-02-2005 10:41am

Yeah, Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he (Forlan) was playing poorly for United.

yop · 01-02-2005 10:43am

Best of luck to him, could be a very good signing for Villa as Hendrie is a bit light weight, he will add a bit of thump in the middle.
Hopefully this will now give O'Shea more of a chance to make appearances in midfield

BolBill · 01-02-2005 10:44am

Has O'Leary got the worst record for spending money on players without ACTUALLY winning anyway? I mean he spent over 100 million at Leeds and won nothing.

johnor · 01-02-2005 10:54am

I think he is a good signing for villa probably the best out of the Faye/Diao which villa were also looking at bringing in, I think he'll preform alot better with villa, get a run in the team, he'll know that french lad at villa, name escapes me, probably enjopy playing with him....

good signing by o'leary, a long term buy and djemba's age. can only add to the young talent at villa at the moment

BolBill · 01-02-2005 11:12am

johnor wrote:

I think he is a good signing for villa probably the best out of the Faye/Diao which villa were also looking at bringing in, I think he'll preform alot better with villa, get a run in the team, he'll know that french lad at villa, name escapes me, probably enjopy playing with him....

good signing by o'leary, a long term buy and djemba's age. can only add to the young talent at villa at the moment

talent/villa really !!!?????

Villain · 01-02-2005 11:13am

SteM wrote:

Yeah, Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he (Forlan) was playing poorly for United.

So was Djemba, O'Learys signings since he came to Villa have been excellent, McCann and Sorrensen were great buys and Salona was the best value for money buy ever in the premiership in my view.

SteM · 01-02-2005 11:22am

irish1 wrote:

So was Djemba...

Tell you what, go back and read my original post that you quoted - read it FULLY. I've seen nothing of DJDJ since he he started playing in England to show that he was a good/talented midfielder. I said that the feeling was Forlan had some promise but it didn't happen for him at United - I don't get that feeling about DJDJ because he's just looked poor whenever he's played for United.

I don't care about O'Learys other signings to be honest, I'm sure they've been fantastic.

Villain · 01-02-2005 11:27am

SteM wrote:

Tell you what, go back and read my original post that you quoted - read it FULLY. I've seen nothing of DJDJ since he he started playing in England to show that he was a good/talented midfielder. I said that the feeling was Forlan had some promise but it didn't happen for him at United - I don't get that feeling about DJDJ because he's just looked poor whenever he's played for United.

I don't care about O'Learys other signings to be honest, I'm sure they've been fantastic.

lol OK from the start

eirebhoy said

I was one of the few people to predict Forlan being a success at Villareal.

You replied by saying

Can't really compare Forlan to Djemba-Djemba. Forlan was still playing well for Uruguay when he was playing poorly for United.

Which I took to mean that, you thought Djemba wasn't playing well for his country, so hence you can compare them, simple point really.

woosaysdan · 01-02-2005 2:23pm

i think that djemba will come back to old trafford and haunt us!!!

Djemba-Djemba to Villa

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