IEDR naming policy Q.

Seth Brundle

Can anyone tell me if there was a reason for the IEDR breaching its own naming policy?
I would contact them but just want to see if Im missing something here.
How did UL get www.ul.ie?

Domain names with 2 characters may be permitted provided that not both are letters. Two letter domains are still not permitted.

How did the Dundrum Shopping Centre get www.dundrum.ie?

The proposed domain name must not contravene the geographical name regulation. This regulation requires that no domain name may consist of geographical name(s), word(s) or description(s), or a combination of such, followed by .ie, which in the view of the Registry would be likely to be misleading if registered in the name of the applicant, or if registered would be likely to infer or to imply that the applicant had exclusive or certain rights emanating from such a domain name.
These names, which can most often be defined as names that appear on official maps, are only registered to relevant local authorities. The Registry will not be involved in arrangements between local authorities and third parties regarding the use of the domain name. Quasi-geographical names that do not appear on official maps, such as Leeside, Bayside, Liffey Valley etc. are usually acceptable domain name applications from non-local authority applicants. Applications comprising corporate names, Trade Marks etc. and which include a (real) geographical name are usually compelled to include the "product" name in the domain name. For example, Westmeath Mountaineering Products would be obliged to include "mountaineering", or a derivation, at a minimum, in their domain name.

Sposs

Same can be applied for 02.ie as far as im aware if the registered company name only consists of two letters you are entitled.

Regarding Dundrum.ie this more than likely dates back to before the rule on name places if Dundrum Town Council ever decided they wanted the domain the IEDR would give it to them.

Seth Brundle

Re O2 - that would fall into the 2 char minimum but not both being letters so presumably is ok. I think this may be a new ploicy though - weren't all domains to be 3 or more chars?
I thought the placename ban was always there though.

misterq

the ul.ie domain name was assigned prior to the formation of the IEDR (it precedes the rules).

02.ie is two digits. Two letters (a-z) would not be acceptable.

In relation to place names, the relevant local authority can give the OK for someone else to register or operate a place name domain name. This is more than likely what happened with dundrum.ie.

BTW: I'm in no way defending the bonkers rules and procedures for the IEDR!

mneylon

ul.ie predates the IEDR policies, so it is not in contravention of anything.

02.ie is a letter and a digit, so that is perfectly acceptable

Regarding place names, if the local authority provides a signed letter of authorisation to a company or individual they may use the name

jmcc

It will be interesting to see how IEDR will handle the rebranding of Esat-BT to just BT.

Regards...jmcc

mneylon

jmcc wrote:

It will be interesting to see how IEDR will handle the rebranding of Esat-BT to just BT.

Regards...jmcc

Under the current rules they cannot allow them to register bt.ie, however they could register something like bt-irl or btireland or some other derivation

dahamsta

Point of fact, the two character rule was amended by the IEDR under the control of Mike Fagan about a month prior to O2.IE and 02.IE being registered. The old rules disallowed one of them, but I can't remember which one.

adam

jmcc

blacknight wrote:

Under the current rules they cannot allow them to register bt.ie, however they could register something like bt-irl or btireland or some other derivation

Wonder if IEDR will change the rules. It would be against the general trend though as two letter domains are being deprecated in many tlds.

Regards...jmcc