Is boards.ie to strict?

Matthewthebig

seamus wrote:

stormfront.org

Fu.ck that site is scary!

The General

Also, if someone was talking about downloading mp3s or someone was talking about how they were doing 140km/hr in a 120 km/hr zone, would that not be the same as some people taking about how they got their PS2 chipped and have **** loads of gmaes now etc???

The General

For example heres people talking about insurance fraud which is illegal why isnt this banned!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223798

billy the squid

Also, if someone was talking about downloading mp3s...

Only if they are providing directions as to where mp3s can be acquired illegally. If you see such a thread before a moderator then you click on the "report bad post" button if you feel it is going against the rules. The fact that a moderator hasn't attended to a dodgy post yet idoes not mean that the individual who posted is going to get away with it.

or someone was talking about how they were doing 140km/hr in a 120 km/hr zone,

the same thing. were they point out the locations of speed traps?

would that not be the same as some people taking about how they got their PS2 chipped and have **** loads of gmaes now etc???

giving instructions on where to find an illegal chip in a playstation 2 would be the same as telling someone how to put an illegal chip in a playstation 2. which is illegal. therefore has no place on the boards.

amp

There's a part of me, the evil part, the part that had hot sex with your mom the other day, that wants to abuse my powers. It'd be quick enough to ban Moderater from the entire Games Catagory and I'd do it just to hear about Moderaters head exploding with epileptic rage into a miasma of scarlett chunks.

Of course I've learnt not to fuck with the Admins on banning people just because they are completely worthless individuals, so I'll just leave Moderater with this size=4 message. If you are not Moderater or under the age of 18 I would skip on to the next post which is no doubt thrilling.


DEAR MODERATER,

SHUT THE FUCK UP. ARGUE WHINGE AND RANT ALL YOU LIKE. GET A LAWYER. PAY HIM MILLIONS. HAVE HIM AND THE R&D STAFF OF IBM'S LEGAL DEPTMARTMENT WORKING ON CLEVER ARGUMENTS AND PRECEDENTS FROM BOARDS, A LAW LIBRARY THE SIZE OF CANADA AND THE ENTIRE INTERNET. I WILL NOT SUBMIT TO YOU. I WILL NOT BUDGE A NANOMETER. I WILL FIGHT YOU ON THE BEACHES. I WILL FIGHT YOU IN THE STREETS. BUT I WILL NEVER, FUCKING EVER, SURRENDER.

Regards,

amp


P.S SAY HI TO YOUR MOM FOR ME!



Feels good to be back. Cheers ecks

Boston

Moderater wrote:

Also, if someone was talking about downloading mp3s or someone was talking about how they were doing 140km/hr in a 120 km/hr zone, would that not be the same as some people taking about how they got their PS2 chipped and have **** loads of gmaes now etc???

mp3's arn't illegal, and speeding is a civil offense.

Boston

amp wrote:

Of course I've learnt not to fuck with the Admins on banning people just because they are completely worthless individuals, so I'll just leave Moderater with this size=4 message. If you are not Moderater or under the age of 18 I would skip on to the next post which is no doubt thrilling.

Dear adam

Isn't it about time you unbanned me from the games forum and events.

Yours truely Joe.

yossarin

Moderater wrote:

For example heres people talking about insurance fraud which is illegal why isnt this banned!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223798

I'd say the reponses he's getting are quite enough: "this is fraud", "You are what is wrong with this country", etc.
The original poster seems to be regretting suggesting the fraud now as well. you could say that boards *prevented* that crime from happening - a very public spirited thing indeed. lets all be internet vigilantes!

seamus

Moderater wrote:

For example heres people talking about insurance fraud which is illegal why isnt this banned!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223798

Seems reasonable to me. That's the wonderful world of self-policing. This guy came on with the obvious intent of insurance fraud, but didn't see it that way. Everyone pointed out the errors of his ways, and he subsequently realised it.

I think that's great. A deletion/ban would have lost that.
Now, if they had started conspiring to commit fraud, then I would have stepped in. Strangely enough, you complain about the thread here, yet I didn't receive a single post report about that thread. Clearly it can't be that bothering for you if you didn't see fit to report it.
You see, there's really only two reasons why I moderate - To prevent boards coming under attack through legal problems, and to maintain the readability and usability of the forums for all. I know what I will delete on sight. However, there may be other things that float on the edge, but if nobody reports the post to me, then I assume that everyone is happy enough with it, so I see no need to do anything with it.

Let's stop the crap Moderater; You have a problem with a Moderator or a decision made by a Moderator. Out with it.

DeVore

Moderater, I'll give you 24 hours to PM me a new name. I see nothing wrong with snipping a post thats effectively asking for instructions on playing warezed cd's. Its consistent with the games forums charter and the moderators of that forum have been very consistent about that in the past too.

DeV

Terry

what's the deal with certain words being censored?

**** **** wanker etc.

just wondering.


also, i belond to a forum where it is almost impossible to get banned. if you mess up then people will tell you to stfu. it's really lenient and they allow porn. there are 4 moderators, but they are there merely to fix things.
then again, it's invitation only and isn't listed on any search engine.

Terry

ok, well it seems that wanker is allowed but sh it is not.

Rabies

julep wrote:

what's the deal with certain words being censored?

Boards is really strict on certain words

Terry

Rabies wrote:

Boards is really strict on certain words

i can see that. but what is the reason behind it?

and don't tell me to go and look at the rules. i'm not gonna do that.

seamus

julep wrote:

i can see that. but what is the reason behind it?

This is a family site. Well, not really, but it is accessible by minors, so it means that boards.ie has a certain obligation as regards appropriate content.

The Admins will give you a clearer reason.

ChRoMe

Yes the boards are moderated with the same amount of compassion as a firing squad. However as stated before this site is a dictatorship (fair enough) so at the end of the day you dont really have any come back against a ban or whatever.

I understand the need for moderation of the forums to ensure that Tom, John, Dan etc dont get into trouble for some of the posts. However imho I have seen many many threads and posts that have been banned or locked for reasons of ego. Also this behaviour holds the boards back from reaching its full potential as no natural flow of discussion is allowed (the amount of stay on topic posts from mods in funny at this stage).

Just to finish off I think that some of the charter's should be more clearly written as some of them appear to be very vague in regards to the behaviour which is allowed

ChRoMe

Ps I presume since my PI ban wasnt lifted after the week that its there for good?

The General

Boston wrote:

mp3's arn't illegal, and speeding is a civil offense.

I know mp3's themselves arent illegal but most mp3s people have are illegal

Let's stop the crap Moderater; You have a problem with a Moderator or a decision made by a Moderator. Out with it.

I havent got a problem with a mod or anyone im just trying to make a point that nothing will happen if people talk on here about chipped PS2 and also pointing out that at the mo people on here do talk about illegal things, OK thats it end of disscussion,
ps im just trying to make a point, i have no real interest in PS2 chipping

pwd

why isn't **** censored? that's the most offensive word i know. is it cos of scunthorpe?

edit: well it wasn't the last time i used it. Was in the plural maybe that's it: ****

The General

also 'DeVore' i PM'ed you about that name change.

Dont see why you want me to do it, no one thinks im a mod

Boston

Well no one will think your a moderator with banned under your user name either.

Dev I Private message you on a subject of great importants, I'd appreciate a timely feic off If it aint to much trouble.

seamus

ChRoMe wrote:

Yes the boards are moderated with the same amount of compassion as a firing squad.

Sometimes there's no room for compassion. There are a lot of users and a lot of posts.

Ps I presume since my PI ban wasnt lifted after the week that its there for good?

Did you PM anyone to request an unbanning?

Giblet

What do you think would happen if it wasn't as strict as it is.

A ****storm of crappy posts and threads, which would make the place unbearable to read.

ChRoMe

Giblet I beg to differ but anyway we could debate what would happen for ever.

seamus: I have sent several PM's however all have been ignored (or at least not acknowledged)

billy the squid

ChRoMe wrote:

Yes the boards are moderated with the same amount of compassion as a firing squad. However as stated before this site is a dictatorship (fair enough) so at the end of the day you dont really have any come back against a ban or whatever.'/quote]

yes you do. if it is a forum ban you can PM the moderator, or come to this forum to make a complaint or seek clarification on a ban.

Remember coming to this site is like walking into a public house. anyone can come and go as they please as long as they behave themselves and stick within the house rules.

I understand the need for moderation of the forums to ensure that Tom, John, Dan etc dont get into trouble for some of the posts. However imho I have seen many many threads and posts that have been banned or locked for reasons of ego. Also this behaviour holds the boards back from reaching its full potential as no natural flow of discussion is allowed (the amount of stay on topic posts from mods in funny at this stage).

can you state examples where posts were moved because of someones ego.

Just to finish off I think that some of the charter's should be more clearly written as some of them appear to be very vague in regards to the behaviour which is allowed

If you have suggestions on charters then i suggest you either contact the moderator or post here

anyone who seeks clarification on the charter in the limerick city forum is more than welcome to send a pm to me at any time. I dont know if the other moderators would like to receive multiple pms if they are running a busy forum, but its not like they are not open to reasonable suggestions.

DeVore

Boston, have you tried talking to the mods of the forum in question? I havent responded to you because:

a. I current have 1593 unread private messages. Those are just the ones I didnt bother reading. The number of unreplied to messages is much greater

b. You appear to have run straight to the admins without going to the moderators in question first. If they refuse a polite and reasonable request, then please forward it to me.

DeV.

seamus

billy the squid wrote:

anyone who seeks clarification on the charter in the limerick city forum is more than welcome to send a pm to me at any time. I dont know if the other moderators would like to receive multiple pms if they are running a busy forum, but its not like they are not open to reasonable suggestions.

Since I got After Hours, I now receive 1-2 PMs a day, whereas before that would be a monthly figure. Makes me feel wanted. No seriously though, I'd have no problem receiving more PMs if people have problems with or suggestions about the way my boards are run. Those that complain publically are those that I've never received any kind of communication from.

ChRoMe

Billy:

"yes you do. if it is a forum ban you can PM the moderator, or come to this forum to make a complaint or seek clarification on a ban."

Yeah ok you can go to the mod's and try and discuss it but if they turn around and tell you to f|_|ck off well not much you can do.

"can you state examples where posts were moved because of someones ego.
"
I could go looking for posts but to be honest its effort for something that isint exactly keeping me awake at night. My relucatance to dig up evidence to support my claim might invalidate it but the fact it was posted by me prob did that allready

"If you have suggestions on charters then i suggest you either contact the moderator or post here" have done both but neither time got any sort of response.

Billy not to ruin your idea of a loving democratic forum but its far from the truth. Tom and Dan know me from a long time ago (way before any of this boards.ie stuff) I was a successfull 16 year old muppet (successful at being a muppet that is). These first impressions will always last (fair enough) so not much time is given to my views. I'm starting to ramble so I'll finish up. The idea of boards.ie is a great one everyone can accept that.

IMHO I feel that discussion is held back by the inability of a large amount of mods to be subjective. This i feel leads to bias and obstructs the chance for some real thoughtful discussion.

My .02c

ChRoMe

seamus

ChRoMe wrote:

Yeah ok you can go to the mod's and try and discuss it but if they turn around and tell you to f|_|ck off well not much you can do.

You can bring it up on Feedback, or Help.

"If you have suggestions on charters then i suggest you either contact the moderator or post here" have done both but neither time got any sort of response.

Examples? (Of posts here)

CuLT

IMHO I feel that discussion is held back by the inability of a large amount of mods to be subjective.

Objective, I should think you mean.

The only reason you're not recieving much in the way of support from the mods is because you're talking to people who deal with cold, hard evidence of misdemeanour every day.
All you're providing is speculation and unsupported argument.

It's amazing how LAX boards.ie is compared to other sites, and I've mentioned this before. I made a single post on an american forum, my only post, suggesting a small correction to an entry in a database of films.
Within hours, while I was asleep, a regular has asked what my point was, a 16 year old mod jeered my single line comment, they decided my point was baseless and then the administrator locked the thread.
All this before I even had a chance to reply.

Most forums are run like this, top heavy, with who's more powerful than who being the most important factor, far from forum content.

This simply doesn't happen on boards.ie.

Mercury_Tilt

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