World Rankings

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 12:31am #1

What's the highest World Ranking we ever achieved?

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 12:41am

without checking i think it was 8 after Italia 90. Might be wrong though.

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 12:51am

Wrong.

Chucky the tree · 14-02-2005 12:53am

whats the point of this?

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 12:55am

I just was fascinated when I found out. That's all.

kensutz · 14-02-2005 12:55am

6th

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 12:56am

Correct.

Chucky the tree · 14-02-2005 1:15am

right so.

anyone think we will ever top it?

d22ontour · 14-02-2005 1:17am

Chucky the tree wrote:

right so.

anyone think we will ever top it?

yes if it was for hurling

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 1:28am

We've never been the 6th best team in the world so I doubt we'll ever top the rankings. Besides its points based, so we'd have to win a couple of World Cups and Eupopean championships to get anywhere near the top.

BolBill · 14-02-2005 10:35am

Stekelly wrote:

We've never been the 6th best team in the world so I doubt we'll ever top the rankings. Besides its points based, so we'd have to win a couple of World Cups and Eupopean championships to get anywhere near the top.

Yeah of course you're right, sure the Czech Republic are fourth in the latest rankings and we're all sick of them winning the World Cup and the Euros :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 12:42pm

BolBill wrote:

Yeah of course you're right, sure the Czech Republic are fourth in the latest rankings and we're all sick of them winning the World Cup and the Euros :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

fourth is not first even if us Liverpool fan would like to think it is.

1 . Brazil 842
2 . France 791
3 . Argentina 785
4 . Czech Republic 777
5 . Spain 764
6 . Netherlands 757
7 . Mexico 753
8 . England 751
9 . Portugal 747
1 0 . Italy 738
1 1 . USA 726
1 2 . Republic of Ireland 716

Thats the top twelve, which means we would have to preform consistantly better than the eleven teams above us, not likely imo and would probably involve us winning the wc. God help us if FIFA ever do the sensible thing and stop taking friendlies into account.

BolBill · 14-02-2005 1:06pm

Stekelly wrote:

fourth is not first even if us Liverpool fan would like to think it is.

1 . Brazil 842
2 . France 791
3 . Argentina 785
4 . Czech Republic 777
5 . Spain 764
6 . Netherlands 757
7 . Mexico 753
8 . England 751
9 . Portugal 747
1 0 . Italy 738
1 1 . USA 726
1 2 . Republic of Ireland 716

Thats the top twelve, which means we would have to preform consistantly better than the eleven teams above us, not likely imo and would probably involve us winning the wc. God help us if FIFA ever do the sensible thing and stop taking friendlies into account.

Involve us winning the World Cup????? I really don't know why you think this???? If we qualify better than any of the above teams (i.e. win our tougher group) we will over take them !!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 1:13pm

BolBill wrote:

Involve us winning the World Cup????? I really don't know why you think this???? If we qualify better than any of the above teams (i.e. win our tougher group) we will over take them !!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Let's just worry about overtakign the long time footballing super-power that is the USA first. Can you honestly see us making up 126pts on Brazil?

Does anyone have a list of how points are awarded, I know it was discussed a while back but I cant find it.

eirebhoy · 14-02-2005 1:29pm

BolBill wrote:

Involve us winning the World Cup????? I really don't know why you think this???? If we qualify better than any of the above teams (i.e. win our tougher group) we will over take them !!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

haha. The FIFA rankings aren't very accurate but do you honestly think that if we finished top of our group ahead of France that we're suddenly better than them over a 4 year period and we'd overtake them in the rankings?

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 2:19pm

Stekelly wrote:

Does anyone have a list of how points are awarded, I know it was discussed a while back but I cant find it.

How Rankings are calcuated
There you go. Gets quite complicated as you go on though.

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 2:20pm

eirebhoy wrote:

haha. The FIFA rankings aren't very accurate but do you honestly think that if we finished top of our group ahead of France that we're suddenly better than them over a 4 year period and we'd overtake them in the rankings?

No I don't.

eirebhoy · 14-02-2005 2:41pm

Brian017 wrote:

No I don't.

I was replying to "if we qualify better than any of the above teams (i.e. win our tougher group) we will over take them !!!!!!!!!".

Brian017 · 14-02-2005 5:06pm

Oh ok

BolBill · 14-02-2005 5:47pm

eirebhoy wrote:

haha. The FIFA rankings aren't very accurate but do you honestly think that if we finished top of our group ahead of France that we're suddenly better than them over a 4 year period and we'd overtake them in the rankings?

JESUS CHRIST !!! THATS NOT WHAT IM SAYING, but if we do top our group we will move up the rankings, not OVETAKE the FRENCH FFS !!!! just up the rankings because we would be rewarded for finishing higher than a team ahead of us in the rankings. :rolleyes:

eirebhoy · 14-02-2005 5:58pm

BolBill wrote:

JESUS CHRIST !!! THATS NOT WHAT IM SAYING, but if we do top our group we will move up the rankings, not OVETAKE the FRENCH FFS !!!! just up the rankings because we would be rewarded for finishing higher than a team ahead of us in the rankings. :rolleyes:

Don't start bloody shouting when it was clear you were wrong to say:
"...we will over take them"

BTW - It is pretty clear that the above quote is not actually a "typo" mistake, you actually did think we would overtake them as you were replying to Stekelly saying we'd need to win a world cup to overtake them. Next time, admit it. And calm down with the sarcastic smiley you've used in every post in this thread.

Draupnir · 14-02-2005 8:15pm

judging by the standard of the teams above us, and with 10 points being a relatively big gap in World Rankings terms, we'd almost need a quarter final place at the World cup next summer to get above the US.

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 8:36pm

Draupnir wrote:

judging by the standard of the teams above us, and with 10 points being a relatively big gap in World Rankings terms, we'd almost need a quarter final place at the World cup next summer to get above the US.

**EDIT** Read the post wrong**EDIT**
Thats assuming the USA dont do well, they usually get a 2nd round place anyway.

Draupnir · 14-02-2005 8:45pm

yep thats the problem, mexico and the US are virtually guaranteed to stay in the top 10/12 because they have such a handy time qualifying and trouncing trinidad & tobago et al.

Harry2001 · 14-02-2005 8:54pm

Draupnir wrote:

yep thats the problem, mexico and the US are virtually guaranteed to stay in the top 10/12 because they have such a handy time qualifying and trouncing trinidad & tobago et al.

Agreed, that's why people don't take the rankings too seriously. I prefer these rankings, they cover competitive games only http://www.elerankings.com/frameworldfootball.htm

eirebhoy · 14-02-2005 10:33pm

If the US didn't play this month we would have overtaken them in the next rankings but they beat Trindad 2-1 away from home so there's not much chance of it happening now (Trindad are decent enough). The US have 10 matches in the same period we have 2 (Italy and China).

Guy:Incognito · 14-02-2005 10:46pm

we should just organise to play stKitts & Nevis every 2nd day fo rthe whole summer break. That'll sort us out to our true positon as no1 in the rankings.

d22ontour · 14-02-2005 10:53pm

The fifa rankings are decent enough, Ireland look good enough to out-perform some of the above teams from now till the world cup (if/when we qualify) to close the gap, points wise

FatherTed · 14-02-2005 10:58pm

The highest ranking for Ireland was 6th in August 1993. Lowest was 57th in November 1998.

Rankings are accumlated over 8 years of results. Also, expect the US to be ahead of Mexico by the end of the year.

BolBill · 15-02-2005 10:50am

Stekelly wrote:

**EDIT** Read the post wrong**EDIT**
Thats assuming the USA dont do well, they usually get a 2nd round place anyway.

Do they usually ? Really? 2002 Yes, 1998 No (Didnt win a game), 1994 Yes (were at home and scraped through in 3rd place in the group), 1990 No (Lost all three games), 1986 Didn't qualify.

So on that evidence they usually make the second round. :rolleyes:

por · 15-02-2005 11:57am

BolBill wrote:

Do they usually ? Really? 2002 Yes, 1998 No (Didnt win a game), 1994 Yes (were at home and scraped through in 3rd place in the group), 1990 No (Lost all three games), 1986 Didn't qualify.

So on that evidence they usually make the second round. :rolleyes:

They have improved in leaps and bounds since '98, now that the children of the WC in '94 are growing up.
I'd expect them to win a world cup in less than 20 years.

FatherTed · 15-02-2005 9:47pm

The current US team is not the team of 1986/90/94 or 98. The team has improved dramatically over the last 10 years. Just witness the growing number of US players now playing in England, Germany and Holland. Look at the teams represented in the US's game last week (Borussia Mönchengladbach , Hannover, Feyenoord, Fulham, PSV Eindhoven, Bayer Leverkusen). The major factor in the development of the US player has been the success of MLS. Although the attendance of game is sluggish (average about 15K), the league has helped developed good players has become more of a feeder league for the Euro leagues. Unlike the old NASL, MLS clubs are only allowed 4 senior foreign players on the squad (plus 4 youth foreign players), so they are compelled to development young americans.

As for winning the World Cup, well that's a long way off. In 2006, they will have better talent than 2002, and then they were unlucky not to reach the semis. The surprise at the American's ability coupled with shrewed tactics by Bruce Arena helped them to a strong showing. Next year, the surprise element will be gone but the young players of 2002 are now more experienced plus some good young kids are coming through. A lot of luck goes into a single tournament but I expect them to get to the second round at least.

Pigman II · 16-02-2005 5:12pm

Harry2001 wrote:

I prefer these rankings, they cover competitive games only http://www.elerankings.com/frameworldfootball.htm

Pffft! That system only has us at 21st .... so is clearly invalid! Basing a ranking system on something as abstract as competitive results now? Pfft I say again!

Besides, climbing meaningless the World Rankings tables and winning World Cups? Is this what football is all about these days? These are not the things Greener cares for!

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