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Is punk dead?

  • 15-02-2005 12:25am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭


    Ah, I'm just putting this down for the hell of it.

    I think that, while the true essence of punk has been lost with many of these modern bands, it's clear to see that the basics of punk have continued to develop on throughout the ages.

    Guess I'm inbetween.

    Is punk dead? 22 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    31% 7 votes
    Atari Jaguar
    68% 15 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    What's punk?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Yes. We simply don't get bands like The Exploited anymore. Some of the so-called "Punk" of today... it's almost like calling Linkin Park Death Metal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    anyone who thinks punk is dead is a fool, no exceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    Stupid question. Atari Jaguar.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    From dictionary.com


    I love this:
    Slang. A young man who is the sexual partner of an older man.


    So no, punk is not dead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    Papa Smut wrote:
    From dictionary.com


    I love this:
    Slang. A young man who is the sexual partner of an older man.


    So no, punk is not dead.
    ROFL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    I dont think its Dead, but i think its on its last legs. Its spiderwebbed into so many different genres that its dilluted itself. But it is still there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    I'm with Ferdi on this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Gotta say dead. Modern punk is so far away from what punk was originally it's depressing what gets called punk these days.

    Having said that, US and UK punk back in the day were different things too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,688 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    IMO, punk has 2 major elements - the music and the attitude. The attitude is still there, but the music is fairly diluted, but i wouldn't say its dead.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you really believe the attitude is still there? I thought that punk had quite a nietzsche -esque attitude about it. You know the whole "I wanna destroy" thing. I just don't see that anymore. Punk (if it isn't dead, which I believe it is) should have died a long time ago. Right round the passing of Sid. Why must we hold on to things that mean so much?
    If punk was a family, it would be a sick state of affairs... Akin to keeping someone on a ventilator who is completely braindead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭ether


    The 3 chord riff isn't used as much, but we still hear punk in so much music nowadays, it'll never die off completely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    punk is an attidude 100%. just because the sound changes dosnt mean its dead, its just...changed!

    modern heavy rock/metal sounds different to the way it used to - is metal dead?

    i hate this "if its not sid vicious, its not punk" attitude, it does a great dis-service to the genre and music as a whole. why cant music diversify and change with the times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    Doctor J wrote:
    Gotta say dead. Modern punk is so far away from what punk was originally it's depressing what gets called punk these days.
    Just because something is called punk doesn't mean it is. And what do you mean by "modern punk". MTV punk?
    Papa Smut wrote:
    Do you really believe the attitude is still there? I thought that punk had quite a nietzsche -esque attitude about it. You know the whole "I wanna destroy" thing.
    That was only one part of punk. There were punk bands who believed in "I wanna destroy", there were bands who just sang about it, there were punk bands that sang about their everyday lives and there were bands who were just in it for the fun.

    I just don't see that anymore. Punk (if it isn't dead, which I believe it is) should have died a long time ago. Right round the passing of Sid.
    What has Sid Vicious got to do with punk music? :D
    Why must we hold on to things that mean so much?
    If punk was a family, it would be a sick state of affairs... Akin to keeping someone on a ventilator who is completely braindead.
    Is impressionism dead? Somebody tell the art lovers. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Altheus


    punk was and is long dead. it's a political belief, it's an attitude, it's a social underclass, it's a conscious decision to drop out and stand up against a corrupt system which has no place for in it.

    Punk is not music. Music is a symptom of a punk ideal. Come on the may day march and see how many 'punks' are still around. Punk is DEAD, long live mediocre central ideals and policital correctness, dumbed downed ideas and docility in society.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Altheus wrote:
    punk was and is long dead. it's a political belief, it's an attitude, it's a social underclass, it's a conscious decision to drop out and stand up against a corrupt system which has no place for in it.

    Punk is not music. Music is a symptom of a punk ideal. Come on the may day march and see how many 'punks' are still around. Punk is DEAD, long live mediocre central ideals and policital correctness, dumbed downed ideas and docility in society.


    Hear hear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    narks!!!!!

    punk as a political ideal is now more necessary than ever, and not just from the under classes. i dont like the society i live in, do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Altheus


    Read my post. Familiarize yourself with sarcasm. Then post.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I didn't get the sarcasm....

    Do now tho'!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭veryslowey


    what a load of gaybollocks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Altheus


    Are their any fundamental differences between gay bollocks dog's bollocks and straight bollocks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭veryslowey


    not funadmentally no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭I am MAN


    veryslowey wrote:
    not funadmentally no

    I think he deserves to be raped with the banning stick for having such a punk attitude and those punk trousers really do go with the blouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    I am MAN wrote:
    I think he deserves to be raped with the banning stick [
    by what mod?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭I am MAN


    If you look at the moderator list you will see there is 1 mod, I dont really care anyway :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭veryslowey


    I am MORON wrote:
    I think he deserves to be raped with the banning stick for having such a punk attitude and those punk trousers really do go with the blouse.

    who called the policeman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    I am MAN wrote:
    If you look at the moderator list you will see there is 1 mod, I dont really care anyway :)
    He hasn't posted anything in the last 2 months though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭I am MAN


    Yes but there is still a moderator listed, which answers your question to what moderator could enforce a banning :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭veryslowey


    oh god what do we do, is anyones parents close by?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    NotMe wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything in the last 2 months though.
    Yea he has.

    He could be just around any corner...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    NotMe wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything in the last 2 months though.
    *roughly


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