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That's it. My next car's a Citroen...

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    #62
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Stuman134 wrote:
    I read the articles you posted Corinthian. I thank you for posting them, and a lot of what is written in them I wholeheartedly agree with. The summary is that both Blair and Bush were given bad intelligence and both governments acted on that bad intelligence (I forgot to include Austrailia in there too). As for Hans Blix, the guys is just a beaurucratic weiner. He has very little credibility and the IAEA has long been thought of as a toothless organization.
    It would be a rather simplistic summery to say that both Blair and Bush were simply given bad intelligence and both governments acted on that bad intelligence, especially given the evidence (even from the articles that I linked to) that the information presented was based upon the assumption that Iraq had WMD and then worked to prove this assumption.

    Discounting Hans Blix from this evidence is not enough as there are numerous other sources (even within the intelligence community) that had warned that the information was being manipulated thusly. Information, incidentally, which ultimately failed to convince the international community or the UN Security Council either.

    Simply saying that the information was wrong is not enough, it was wrong in numerous countries because the conclusions had been decided prior to the information being collected. Yet beyond a few resignations, we are unlikely to see any responsibility taken for a deception, intentional or otherwise, that caused a war.


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    #63
    ambro25
    Registered Users Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭ambro25


    A bit of light relief in this thread, if you all please... Videogame-related (concerning the latest "GTA killer" case over in the US), but take the time to go all the way to the third strip, it will all make sense in the context of this thread :D

    Strip 1
    Strip 2
    Strip 3


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    #64
    Magnolia_Fan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Magnolia_Fan


    If you go back to when this originated it stems from a protest in Paris where a movement was carrying loads of Banners saying to boycott American products so you could say it back fired on them is all...but I might just be bias 1. because I'm American 2.Because I had French exchange students when I was younger and they sucked


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    #65
    The Corinthian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Magnolia_Fan wrote:
    If you go back to when this originated it stems from a protest in Paris where a movement was carrying loads of Banners saying to boycott American products so you could say it back fired on them is all...
    Do you have a source and dates for this huge Paris demonstration or are you citing hearsay?


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    #66
    FatherTed
    Registered Users Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    There is so much of this hearsay stuff happening like the freedom fries and banning of french products in the US. The only place I heard of that was using the term 'freedom fries" was the cafeteria in the Congressional building in DC. Also, there isnt any backlash against French products in the US, I work for a company that distributes a famous french mineral water and our sales were up 15% last year.


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