Man Utd vs. Portsmouth

PHB

team news:

Tim Howard starting, with Ricardo on the bench, no Carroll at all!
Injury or dropped for good?

Rooney also to start.

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That'll give him something to think about.

Aquos76

Its only a pity that Ricardo has not played that often. Howard was on goal for the reserves a couple of weeks ago and Sir Alex watched him concide 5 goals 3 of which were down to him.

The sooner a new keeper is sorted out the better.

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hmm i taught Ronney might be rested good ridens to carroll

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I wanna see Jim Leighton back....

Brian017

1-0 Rooney

KdjaCL

LOL 7 shots in 30 seconds a new record?

This could a 9-0 if Utd keep this up.


kdjac

Caesar_Bojangle

KdjaC wrote:

"someones been pissing on my gamecube"

lol Garden State

Brian017

1-1, O' Neill

KdjaCL

1-1 O Neil

Utd should have blown em away in 1st half , good goal by O neil tho .

kdjac

The Muppet

Howards positioning was questionable on the goal. United will have to lift their game now.

PHB

Howards position I thought was questionable, but it wasn't because the shot was really unexpected and it was preparing for a cross, he moved as much as he could once the shot was happening, since you can just run cause then they'll shoot the other way.

not lookign great for united here atm

PHB

Van Nist and ROooneyoeonyoneonyeonyonyeoneyononyeonyenoey


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Brian017

2-1, Rooney

Iago

Rrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeeeyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

The Muppet

He's rubbish isn't he.

Brian017

Nice, neat and a well taken goal from Rooney.

The Muppet

YES Six points off the top now. Keeping the pressure on Chelsea should they slip up.

EKRIUQ

Close one there but RROOOONNEEYY rules.:)

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Muppet you have to admitt Ronney is worth every penney of his transfer now

BaZmO*

snoopdog wrote:

Muppet you have to admitt Ronney is worth every penney of his transfer now

No, he's definitely rubbish!

B.

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BaZmO* wrote:

No, he's definitely rubbish!

B.

lol

smuckers

Downside for Utd is that Neville has gone for an x-ray and Ferdinand has a hamstring prob.

Chong

Rooney was excellent today and once again was the saviour. Imho he has certainly been worth his salt, he rescued this game today from the brink of disaster also I feel Phil Neville needs to be shown the door his performance today was laughable. He should of gone last summer not Butt. Sir Alex's dodgy tactics and team selection today almost cost us like midweek. Keane, Rio and Giggsy should of all played today, this crack of leaving Roy out is a joke, in fairness he is getting on and is approaching retirement but of late he has been such a rich vein form along with Giggs , as for Rio I was stunned to see he was dropped no doubt like himself. Now for the touchiest of subject's our keeping situation, point being their is no situation the dropping of Roy Carroll was a kick in the teeth, he has played so well this season and has built up a rappor with the defenders and to drop him at this stage of the season for a silly mistake europe is bang of order by Sir Alex. He has the ability to be our number 1 keeper and deserves to be given a contract to reflect that.

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Willem D wrote:

Rooney was excellent today and once again was the saviour. Imho he has certainly been worth his salt, he rescued this game today from the brink of disaster also I feel Phil Neville needs to be shown the door his performance today was laughable. He should of gone last summer not Butt. Sir Alex's dodgy tactics and team selection today almost cost us like midweek. Keane, Rio and Giggsy should of all played today, this crack of leaving Roy out is a joke, in fairness he is getting on and is approaching retirement but of late he has been such a rich vein form along with Giggs , as for Rio I was stunned to see he was dropped no doubt like himself. Now for the touchiest of subject's our keeping situation, point being their is no situation the dropping of Roy Carroll was a kick in the teeth, he has played so well this season and has built up a rappor with the defenders and to drop him at this stage of the season for a silly mistake europe is bang of order by Sir Alex. He has the ability to be our number 1 keeper and deserves to be given a contract to reflect that.

but keano cant play every game he getting on and cant play every game just the important ones

eirebhoy

snoopdog wrote:

Muppet you have to admitt Ronney is worth every penney of his transfer now

I'll PM you my sarcasm detector asap...

Chong

Thats complete bull, the man is ageing and he has had injuries but his fitness and performances have excellent. Ferguson is simply wrapping the man up in cotton wool.

KdjaCL

Willem D wrote:

Sir Alex's dodgy tactics and team selection today almost cost us like midweek......................... to drop him at this stage of the season for a silly mistake europe is bang of order by Sir Alex.

Was it a goalkeeping mistake or a tactical error in midweek?

Utd should have wrapped that game up in 1st half today but Por played quite well and were heading for a deserved point until Rooney scored.


kdjac

Chong

Fair deuce Portsmouth they did played well and took advantage of us. G0oalkeeping error for me but every goalkeeper has them. Roy Carroll has played very well this and Ferguson insulted him today by dropping him for keeper whom of which has played in the side since September.

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Willem D wrote:

Fair deuce Portsmouth they did played well and took advantage of us. G0oalkeeping error for me but every goalkeeper has them. Roy Carroll has played very well this and Ferguson insulted him today by dropping him for keeper whom of which has played in the side since September.

Are you taking the p1ss or what? Ferguson insulted Carroll by dropping him? Don't make me laugh!! He had to drop him. He quite possibly ruined Utd.'s European hopes by a silly schoolboy error.

And you're every keeper does make errors but you have to admit Carroll has more than his fair share!

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Chong

It happens to every keeper, and may have cost us europe but Ferguson is letting the fans & the media know he agrees with the criticism. Carroll performances have 90% of this season have been top quality you argue that. From my point of view I rather have the team concentrating on robbing the title from underneath that portuguese gits nose.

The Muppet

Willem D wrote:

He has the ability to be our number 1 keeper and deserves to be given a contract to reflect that.

He is not good enough to be Uniteds number one Keeper. He makes too many mistakes when under pressure. He has been offered a contract but has refused to sign it. Rumour has it that he will be playing for Rangers iin Scotland next season. Good riddance I say, he would be ok as a backup keeper but his temprement lets him down when the heat is on. Howard was initally dropped for a similar mistake , it was only fair that Carroll suffered the same fate.

Giving howard another chance in the run in to the title with our strongest defence in front of him will give Fergie a better idea of what needs to be done for that position next season. Personally I think he will have to get a new number one.

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eirebhoy wrote:

I'll PM you my sarcasm detector asap...

i want being really sarcastic just making a point that Ronney was worth every pennie hes a big time player when we need him hes there and as for carroll hes gone who will be next goalie

i saw paul Robinson or shay given

Brian017

Neville only has brusing on his ankle.

PHB

Exactly, the premiership is still a goal, but none the less it is a big ask and isn't expected by Fergie.
He is thinkign for the future, and has to see if Howard can cut it. This is his last chance, and if he can't its time for him to move on, and to buya new keeper

crowl

would love to see them sign shay given

LegacyUser

The Muppet wrote:

Howards positioning was questionable on the goal.

That is exactly what I said...in fact I will go as far to say I blame Howard for that...

eirebhoy

Saw the goals on MOTD and Howard was definitely at fault for the Pompey goal.

Big Ears

eirebhoy wrote:

I'll PM you my sarcasm detector asap...

sarcasm detector...of thats a real useful invention .

d22ontour

eirebhoy wrote:

Saw the goals on MOTD and Howard was definitely at fault for the Pompey goal.

That was a super finish i wouldn't blame howard for that maybe brown for his poor clearance.

LegacyUser

Howards positioning though was wrong...he should have been standing in the centre. He was too far to his right.

EDIT: Meant to say Howard instead of Brown.

The Muppet

d22ontour wrote:

That was a super finish i wouldn't blame howard for that maybe brown for his poor clearance.

Howard was a yard or two too much to the right of his goal. Had he been in the centre he would have definitely made it to the ball. His positioning was wrong and that cost united the goal.

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The Muppet wrote:

Howard was a yard or two too much to the right of his goal. Had he been in the centre he would have definitely made it to the ball. His positioning was wrong and that cost united the goal.

dam right

d22ontour

So browns clearance that went all of 5 yards had nothing to do with the goal

If he had of cleared the ball there would be no shot/howard blaming/goal,if a player plays the ball a couple of yards out of the box to opposing players trouble should be expected.

cournioni

eirebhoy wrote:

Saw the goals on MOTD and Howard was definitely at fault for the Pompey goal.

I sincerely hope that you are not a keeper eirebhoy. His positioning for the initial play was spot on (on the edge of the 6 yard box), the ball was on the ground so he was narrowing the angle for any shot coming in off the ground. Then it took a deflection and fell kindly for O'Neil and he hit a great looping shot (which is one of the hardest shots and even headers to save). Howard did all he could to get to it but was unlucky. To say he was to blame for that goal would be wrong.

The two centre halfs were at fault for making a balls of tracking Yakubu (was it?), and ended up both tracking him at the same time leaving a huge gap in the middle. If anyone is to blame its the centre halfs.

The Muppet

PORNAPSTER wrote:

I sincerely hope that you are not a keeper eirebhoy. His positioning for the initial play was spot on (on the edge of the 6 yard box), the ball was on the ground so he was narrowing the angle for any shot coming in off the ground.

I was a keeper in my time and you are right to say his positioning was spot on in the first phase of play. However when the shot came in he was not in the centre of his goal, ie he did not keep up with the movement of the ball across his goal and so was at fault . He had plenty of time to get in the correct position and if he had he would have got something on the ball to prevent the goal. The defenders were at fault too though.

eirebhoy

Yes his positioning was fine 5 seconds previously. He had a lot of time to move into the centre after the ball was passed but stayed where he was. I wasn't a keeper but I'm sure Schmeichel knows more than us all and he blamed Howard.

yop

Howards position was not great, very slow to get across the goal and seemed to get his angles wrong, saying that in a case like that I would blame the defenders for the girly way they tried to clear the ball and for not closing the down the shot.

Still the keeper issues continue!

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yop wrote:

Howards position was not great, very slow to get across the goal and seemed to get his angles wrong, saying that in a case like that I would blame the defenders for the girly way they tried to clear the ball and for not closing the down the shot.

Still the keeper issues continue!

we should start a thread on the next man utd goalie

yop

"we should start a thread on the next man utd goalie"

That could be a long thread!!! But a good idea

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yop wrote:

"we should start a thread on the next man utd goalie"

That could be a long thread!!! But a good idea

a very long one yop i nominate you to start it