24 on Sky

corblimey

snakeater wrote:

In tonights ep they found her body. So that's that.

Correction, they get a report stating that her body has been found.

Sorry, but I'm in denial. The crazy b!tch was one of the better characters this season even with her over-enunication and inappropriate son-fondling. So I think it's all a big scam and she'll be back before 7am, possibly as the actual major baddie of the whole series.

Hey, did everyone know that the guy playing the main terrorist is the guy from The Mummy, or am I just being slow as usual?

LFCFan

corblimey wrote:

Correction, they get a report stating that her body has been found.

They also said, 'according to the coroner, she'd been dead for 30 minutes'

Give it up man, she's gone

aidan_dunne

Okay, so far this season of '24' hasn't been much to write home about. It seems to be the same-old, same-old ground the writers keep going over and it's becoming too predictable. Well, I've just finished watching tonight's episode on Sky and I can't believe what I just watched. Not that I was shocked or anything but this is why:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2331730&postcount=16

See the date on that post I made? That tells you how predictable '24' seems to have become. Okay, I know what I posted wasn't exactly the same, but it was pretty damn close. And to think I thought of that so early into the season. The writers really need to start pulling up their socks, I think, because the storylines and scenarios are becoming way too predictable and '24' is really starting to loose it's edge now.

And just on tonight's episode, how bloody cheesy was the whole idea of

bringing the President's son into all this?

A lame attempt to make him seem more likeable and human. Pur-lease! :rolleyes:

And another thing, the

F117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter is actually a bomber, not a fighter, despite the name. Wouldn't have been of any use to that guy in trying to shoot down Air Force One

Also,

stealth doesn't make an aircraft completely invisible to radar, it just makes it harder to find. The proper term is 'low observeablity', in other words, harder to find but not completely invisible. Direct enough radar energy in the right direction and you'll get enough of a return from the aircraft to pick it up. So I reckon, in reality, the escort fighters would have picked him up in time to shoot him down. Besides, if stealth technology made a plane 100% invisible to radar, how the hell would the Americans be able to keep track of them themselves? Also, there are other ways of tracking a stealth aircraft (heat, for example, even though the heat signature in the F117 is significantly reduced) so they would have been able to have found him in time to shoot him down, I reckon.

But, this is '24', of course, where we can't let reality and facts get in the way of a good story now, can we? :rolleyes:

The Black Oil

Spot on about the

stealth sir. She typically carrys laser guided bombs not sidewinders etc and of course they have to be able to track it, they can't be totally invisible.

Better than the last few episodes but the twist wasn't 24's biggest twist ever in my opinion as they seemed to have advertised it.

tvnutz

stop moaning about technical details and predicability,it was a damn entertaining episode and an equally entertaining season.

corblimey

Yeah, and having the

Pres up in the air for about 97 million hours so far pretty much put him top of the explosion list right from the start. No major leap of logic there.

He's been in the air for 20 hours so far, did I miss the bit where they decided it was safer for him to stay up there until they found the terrorists or is he just flying in from the moon?

steveland?

corblimey wrote:

Yeah, and having the

Pres up in the air for about 97 million hours so far pretty much put him top of the explosion list right from the start. No major leap of logic there.

He's been in the air for 20 hours so far, did I miss the bit where they decided it was safer for him to stay up there until they found the terrorists or is he just flying in from the moon?

Michelle said something earlier that he'd be better off staying in the air and addressing the people from AF1...

I wasn't happy when I saw that episode... I

really thought the President was going to be a red herring.....

tvnutz

who else would they go for with a stealth bomber? and also when Marwan said the president is on a tight schedule ruled out the red herring possibility.

LFCFan

There's still plenty of action left to try and catch us out. I for one am really enjoying this series. I don't give a toss if there are some technical obscurities. If every film and tv program had to be 100% technically correct all the time it would make for some pretty boring TV. Sometimes you need to just suspend disbelief! Also, why do shows have to be totally unpredictable all the time? Sometimes it actually makes for a better show if you know what's going to happen but you don't know how's it's going to pan out.

The Black Oil

Yes, it was an entertaining episode. On the whole this season has been poor, dull characters such as Driscoll, predictability, Jack going rogue again.

What's happened Heller, where did he go?

tvnutz

LFCFan wrote:

There's still plenty of action left to try and catch us out. I for one am really enjoying this series. I don't give a toss if there are some technical obscurities. If every film and tv program had to be 100% technically correct all the time it would make for some pretty boring TV. Sometimes you need to just suspend disbelief! Also, why do shows have to be totally unpredictable all the time? Sometimes it actually makes for a better show if you know what's going to happen but you don't know how's it's going to pan out.

I very much agree!! And this this has been good,A LOT better than last season.

Heller went "somewhere" because the Pres needed him.

Zoton

Last nights episode was very good i thought. Lots of tension, action, and twists. There's still just under a third of the series to go too.

corblimey

I missed Sunday's ep. Does anyone know if it's going to be repeated this week on Sky? I know they repeat chunks of the show on random Saturdays, but that's no good for me.

Failing that, can someone fill me in on wha' happened?

kinkstr

it was repeated monday nite mate, your only chance is to catch one of the random saturday showings

cullenswood

Its on again tonite on Sky Mix at 22:00 if you have Digital

corblimey

I do! Cheers, cullenswood.

corblimey

Ah nuts. Just realised that I'm not in tonight (damn my pesky social life!)

Can someone fill me in on the last hour?

corblimey

24 becoming a comedy happened so slowly, I didn't even notice, but last night's episode was surely the funniest thing on TV this week.

The whole thing with the (vice)President "arrest Jack", "oh sh!t, no", "ah crap, I'm not fit to be the Prez". Resurrecting yet another character (Palmer). Bitchface Chloe running to Mommy when Edgar wouldn't let her use his computer, then being sent out on a field mission, then being shot at, rammed and finally holding a major assault rifle like a girl. Like she works for CTU, wouldn't she have got some gun training? The ongoing uselessness of Jack's (ex)girlfriend. And lots more

Excellent 42 minutes of television.

iMax

Brilliant episode last night

tvnutz

Last night was cool,chloe kicks ass! lol She seemed to be holding it alright to me and she shot the crap out of the guy. The president is a tool,whats the big deal? and if you hadnt noticed,Chloe is a girl,so holding the rifle like a girl isnt too weird. and Id say analysts maybe got training for one day with hand guns.

nachos

did anyone else think chloe with a machine gun was the funniest thing they've seen in ages?! now takin bets that bedgar will be chloe's shoudler to cry on!

tvnutz

in some weird way i thought it was sexy...shoot me now!

Pacifico

tvnutz wrote:

in some weird way i thought it was sexy...shoot me now!

Sexy?!

Anyway, Palmers' back! Wouldn't really be 24 without him....

corblimey

...and so it's over, and we never did find out what happened to Behrooz. We can only assume he was popped off screen - perhaps they're not allowed to show minors getting shot on prime time tv. It's political correctness gone etc.

Anyway, great 2 hours of television, not a surprise in the whole lot (

Tony's dead! Oh wait, he's not! Jack's dead! Oh wait, he's not

) but well acted and great action. The money shot of the chopper coming over the building where

Marwan was trying to take off

was unnecessary but great.

How the hell they're gonna do a day 5, I have no idea. Jack as Deep Throat?

Mr E

Wasn't Marwan's death dreadful? Awful special effects.
(And no, its not a spoiler that the main bad guy dies in the last episode! )

tvnutz

was I the only one who thought it sucked? like...really badly!

The first ep was good,and Mandy is very good! I knew Tony wouldnt die...and I loved how Curtis just smashed her face in. Im glad she wasnt arrested...she can come back at anytime. She works for anyone at anytime,she has no agenda,she is a paid professional. I also liked how Palmer found out it was her who tried to kill him,yet he still did the right thing...sign it! But the "president" is such a tool! what an idiot,i wanted to beat the hell out of him every second he was on screen. :mad: telling david he had failed his country,wtf? then in the second ep taking all the credit saying david "played a role",if keeler doesnt recover,the US is screwed with that guy in charge.

Now the final hour...it blew! lol after 24 hours I wanted a good death for marwan,preferably for jack to kill him,or anyone else to give him a nasty death,not for him to kill himself with bad special effects...yawn. ok...i knew the nuke wouldnt go off,but it was just an anti-climax,i had a feeling it would be LA they would go for,the others were too obvious. then the stupid chinese...meh...and that idiot who wanted jack killed...nice government they have going there. Good old mike though,i always liked him. of course stupid president wouldnt listen to palmer...but he warned jack. they fake his death...which i did see coming,and then how they did it...ah i just didnt like it. ye it will be interesting next season how they bring him back into it. tony and michelle will probably leave that life,the dude who plays plamer had his show picked up next year,so he wont be around. where did heller just disappear to? poor audrey,lol,losing two people she loved in one day...damn,they could have at least told her!.

and what about behrooz?? dead? alive? maybe if he had only been in a few eps i wouldnt care,but he had a major story for over half of the season...and not one mention! nah,i was really disappointed with the finale i watched alias after it and i thought it was ten times better.

ixoy

corblimey wrote:

How the hell they're gonna do a day 5, I have no idea. Jack as Deep Throat?

Presidential pardon? The amount of times Jack's done something that means he can never work in CTU again or in the country or whatever is laughable.

Or how abut they just dye his hair and call him Back Jauer? Given the fact that his Chinese consulate enemies can't even recognise a dead body that clear isn't him, I don't think he'll have any real worries...

Cianan2

I really enjoyed last nights eps. Poor Audrey, heh...wonder how she'll react if she see's Jack again!

Mossy Monk

TmB wrote:

Wasn't Marwan's death dreadful? Awful special effects

absolutely dreadful. how they thought that was good enough to go on air baffles me

Sparky

yeah i wonder how they will bring jack back, in seasoon five, and TBH i wondered how he got back again in this season, if you think back he was only in CTU with heller then all of a sudden he is working in CTU again, i liked to see all the usual faces again especially palmer, and that new president guy, is such a sh1thead, but still if it was real life he would be better than Bush, and im glad tony and michelle got back together, although knowing fox they will be back at some stage in season five.

But ill be watching the old seasons of 24 on bbc 1 to get me through till next year, fox are saying Jan 05 for season 5 so im sure sky will have it in Feb or early march.
Oh and bring back Kim Bauer.

Berger

I really enjoyed season 4. It wasnt really as good as 3 and I havent seen 1 or 2, but it was still really good. The whole thing is just so damn tense, I was in bits watching the final 2 hours!

corblimey

I watched season 1, but gave up on 2 and 3 about half way through. For me, this was definitely the most cohesive season since season 1. 2 and 3 just seemed to pile it on and on and on. This season at least there was a certain continuity, I didn't get the impression that the writers were desperately making it up as they went along, as I did in previous seasons. They seemed to have a plan, with one event leading to the next in a mostly sensible fashion.

There's no other show like 24 on TV. Most dramas have a running theme, but from week to week, this running theme is supplanted by other 1-off stories or shorter running arcs. 24 has 1 arc (at least this season it did, season 1 had stupid Kim getting kidnapped every 8 minutes, and wasn't there some stupid ploy involving a mystery baby last year?) and the last 2 seasons for me just really spelled that out as its true weakness. How can you keep 1 arc going for 24 episodes without piling it on? But this season, it all gelled, and I'm back to being impressed.

tvnutz

but when one arc includes kidnapping Sec of Defense,melting down power plants,shooting down air force one,stealing a nuke and somehow attaching it to a missle in an hour and then launching it...slightly far fetched

This season at least there was a certain continuity

What about Behrooz? he is in half the season and we get no mention of what happened to him. The pilot in the stealth bomber had no further mention,Chloe and Edgar seemed to be in it a lot suggesting they would have some sort of scene where things might be tied up or something!! but we got nothing on either of them.

ixoy

I'm with TV Nutz - is it really one plot when it constantly shifts dynamics all the time? From blowing plans out of the sky, to nuclear meltdowns, to EMP pulses, etc. You can try and say that these events led to another but equally, and what I'd say, is that the writers created the most tenuous links between these events to give the appearance that it was one cohesive whole. With a couple of minutes of script editing, I'm sure they could have thrown in a poison storyline. Certainly the Chinese Consulate piece seemed forced.

If you think this is the only show with one arc, then I suggest you go watch 'The Wire' which has one proper story in a year (and sometimes spread over more than that). There are no pointless side stories and there's a much, much stronger feel that it's well planned out. There's no radical shifts in it either - leaping from kidnapping to bombing, etc. Far, far better than the turgid nonsense that '24' served us this year.

Sparky

yeah and the terrorists seem to have a middle east background, i wonder is there some message here?????

tvnutz

ixoy...the wire is brilliant,but i have only seen the first season,i hear things really change in the 2nd season,which is coming in July on FX

corblimey

Well, if The Wire can do that, then I stand corrected. Sorry, but my knowledge of American dramas is sadly limited to Buffy, The West Wing and ... um... Ellis Island

When I said about a certain continuity I meant in the case that there was never a situation where they handled the problem only to find something else was gone wrong. Everything flowed a lot better for me then previous seasons. Even season 1 kinda stopped at 12pm (I believe this is because they originally only had 12 episodes in the can, and weren't sure of getting picked up) and started up again. I thought this was a lot more obvious in subsequent seasons and didn't seem evident to me in 4.

Of course, it could also be that my expectations were too high for 2 and 3, and too darn low for 4

voxpop

i thought the continuity was rubbish - it was more like 4 6 hour series than 1 24 hour series. To keep everyting going they had to invent rediculous "twists" - say for example in the second last epi, when they had finally caputred marwin and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, some of his gang show up, blow up a jeep and he escapes once again!! Couple this with the crappy reintroduction of old character -

guy1 :"what are we gonna do, who can save us now"
guy2 :"I know someone who might be able to help"

Then up pops tony or palmer - its like they fired the writers after season 1 and hired 100 monkeys on 100 typewriters with a computer picking out the best lines they come up with.

Mitch Connor

ixoy wrote:

Presidential pardon? The amount of times Jack's done something that means he can never work in CTU again or in the country or whatever is laughable.

Or how abut they just dye his hair and call him Back Jauer? Given the fact that his Chinese consulate enemies can't even recognise a dead body that clear isn't him, I don't think he'll have any real worries...

what are you talking about, when were the chinese shown a dead body that was supposed to be jack?

steveland?

Tauren wrote:

what are you talking about, when were the chinese shown a dead body that was supposed to be jack?

I'd imagine the Chinese would want to see the body of the man they were so anxious to put in prison... they're hardly just gonna decide "Oh well the Americans who stormed into our consulate and kidnapped someone then lied about it MUST be telling the truth about Jack being dead..."

Moe79

I enjoyed Season 4, and I agree that it seemed much more structured and planned, rather than brand spanking new storylines coming in 2/3 of the way through as in previous years.

But yeah, I was sad not to see some resolution of Behrooz's predicament. He was very much a major character for most of the series and I think the audience were all quote fond of him and were rooting for him. The last we saw of him was when they did the exchange and Marwan cut Behrooz's neck to get the bug out... If they really didn't want to take the character any further, why not have Marwan shoot him or something then?

Unless there are plans for Behrooz to be working in CTU in Season 5 or something? Or maybe he decides to join the terrorists?

s8n

whens season 5 due to start in the states??

Repli

s8n wrote:

whens season 5 due to start in the states??

January 2005 - Sky 1 will probably be about 4 - 6 weeks behind as usual

Here is some information about Season 5 - I don't know how reliable the source is though

Episode 5.1
Airdate - January, 2006
The scheduled production start date for season five is July 26th.
Preliminary plot information points to the season premiere beginning somewhere overseas.

I’m hearing that the season will start off with the terrorist bombing of a “high-value target”. It’s unclear if the high-value target is a person or a building but it's looking more and more like a combination of both a prominent building and a high-ranking government official who will be among the many killed in the terrorist attack. There are several other scenarios I’ve heard rumblings about and every single one of them has the same concept of a terrorist bombing of a building with extremely strong international ties. They are also thinking about bringing back a former character to be among the many dead in the massive explosion.

The new season has already been in pre-production since April. New writers Manny Coto and David Fury are quickly getting accustomed to writing a real-time script. 24 has sought out the advice of novelist Richard Marcinko and he is playing an advisory role in the shaping of season five’s story. 24 sent out casting calls for a major female role in April and the role has already been cast but the actress hasn’t been revealed.

James Morrison (Bill Buchanan) just signed a deal to return in the shows fifth season as a series regular.

One of the new season five characters is named Craig Huxley. Craig is 15 and he lives in a small desert town, the type of place where people don’t ask questions and the type of place Jack Bauer could easily blend into. In the story the town is supposed to be around the city of Bakersfield, California; which is about 110 miles north of Los Angeles. Craig is a sophomore in high school and his mother is dating Jack. Craig and Jack don’t get along and Craig doesn’t want Jack around and he hates that Jack is dating his mother. Craig has an attitude and he isn’t afraid to speak his mind.

Another DVD exclusive prequel is in the works and it sounds like it’s going to be much longer that last seasons prequel which had about 5 minutes and thirty seconds of new footage. A “24 minute” prequel is being discussed but the show would likely have to seek out a promotional sponsor to finance the project because of current budget issues.

Two years will have passed between Seasons 4 and 5. And get this: Doofus Veep Logan will be the official president when the show returns. For some inexplicable reason, producers love that little nimrod. Meanwhile, I think it's safe to assume Keeler died on the operating table.

It's kinda murky at this point, but I have it on good authority that Tochelle will have made good on their promise to quit CTU and pursue life as a boring married couple. "They're gone; they're out," says a source close to the show. "It's a real happy ending." But that's not to say Jack won't pull them back in when the going gets deadly.

What happens next on "24" is one of the most guarded secrets in Hollywood -- but Vince Flynn has some answers. The best-selling Twin Cities-based author of political thrillers like "Transfer of Power" and "Term Limits" spent a week in Los Angeles recently, helping creators of the unpredictable Fox drama come up with future story lines. He'll go back in late summer or early fall to help wrap up some of the stories and possibly even pen a script. Flynn wouldn't dare give away any major revelations but he did let slip that some major characters get blown up in next season's opener.

"We'll pick Jack up in a very different place, roughly a year later. Of course, the show is the show, so it won't be long before he's back in the saddle. But we'll explore a little bit of what he's been doing with his life and the situation he's gotten himself into. That will certainly have an impact on his behavior when he gets involved in the streets".

Kiefer Sutherland will be back for season five.

Mary Lynn Rajskub has reportedly inked a deal to be a main castmember for 24's fifth season.

Roger Cross (Curtis Manning) signed a two year deal last year so he should remain a main castmember in season five.