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Do IOLBB throttle connections?

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  • 07-03-2005 9:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭


    Just curious, do IOLBB throttle connections. I'm getting normal speeds on sites and http downloads but on Bittorrent\usenet I'm only getting about 12kbps.. I'm not really a heavy downloader but I may have gone ever so slightly over the cap 2 months ago(by like 300mbs), although last month I came in at about 10 gigabytes under the cap, so umm.. any ideas, does it sound like IOL are throttling my connection?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Have you tried changing ports? Digiweb do it but I havent heard of IOLBB throttling before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭scoey


    Yep I've tried changing ports(in usenet, to all the ports that Astraweb allow) and it doesn't seem to make any difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    i find i have the exact same problem with IOLBB,no bother dowloading with http(get about 50kps) but bit torrents take days to download


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭sillild


    scoey wrote:
    Just curious, do IOLBB throttle connections. I'm getting normal speeds on sites and http downloads but on Bittorrent\usenet I'm only getting about 12kbps.. I'm not really a heavy downloader but I may have gone ever so slightly over the cap 2 months ago(by like 300mbs), although last month I came in at about 10 gigabytes under the cap, so umm.. any ideas, does it sound like IOL are throttling my connection?

    I had the same problem with different clients azureus,Turbo torrent etc.
    I now using Bitlord and it works way better kb's go from 5 to 40 and 52 if you have a well seeded torrent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭scoey


    sillild wrote:
    I had the same problem with different clients azureus,Turbo torrent etc.
    I now using Bitlord and it works way better kb's go from 5 to 40 and 52 if you have a well seeded torrent.


    Thanks, to be honest though it's the NewsGroup speeds that I'm worried about, my bittorrent speeds have never been the best but upto a couple of days ago I've been getting a consistent 50kbps on astraweb and now it seems to be stuck at about 5-10... Also I've downloaded a couple of things from kazaa just to check and they seem to be maxing out at about 12.6kbps...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭padraigf


    I'm on IOLBB, no throttling at all. Flat out 50 kb/s on all torrents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭sillild


    padraigf wrote:
    I'm on IOLBB, no throttling at all. Flat out 50 kb/s on all torrents.

    what client do you use


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭abccormac


    I use azureus myself and speeds vary enormously depending on the torrent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Bodan


    Last night i worked out how to fix my slow/crawling bit torrents . I had some of the same problems described here . And today im getting full speed.

    I have a Syagte firewall and use Bitornado . For months i did not know what the yellow icon up in the top right had corner meant , it was telling me the status of my connection and how poor it was . A dark green icon means you got a perfect connection.

    Its pretty easy to fix .

    In your port forwarding , free up ports 6881-6999
    In your firewall , allow you BT program to use ports 6881-6999
    and last , in your BT program , change the range of ports to 6881-6999. My range by default was 10000-60000 meaning i was never going to get a good connection with a firewall.

    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭padraigf


    I don't recommend using 6881-6999. Try to use a different range somewhere above 20000. If u use the default ports it makes it easier for isps to identify bittorrent traffic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Bodan


    padraigf wrote:
    I don't recommend using 6881-6999. Try to use a different range somewhere above 20000. If u use the default ports it makes it easier for isps to identify bittorrent traffic.

    I think you do need to use ports 6881-6999 if incoming clients are going to connect to you . The alternative would be for the tracker to tell the clients what ports you have made available and also for those clients to pass those ports onto remote clients using a different tracker . This , imho , is highly unlikely .

    Since i fixed my BT setup im getting like 50 k on just 5 connections , compared to last week when i was getting 6 k .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭padraigf


    If you couldnt change the port that incoming clients connect to you on how would bittorrent work for me :rolleyes:

    I use azureus, it's an option in the options menu to change your incoming clients port. Every other client i've tried had the option to change it too.

    You don't need any tracker changes to be made, its a standard part of the bittorrent protocol. You mustnt be very experienced with bittorrent, as a lot of sites actively forbid you from using 6881.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Bodan


    padraigf wrote:
    If you couldnt change the port that incoming clients connect to you on how would bittorrent work for me

    You can change the ports , as Bittornado did work for me before . But to get it running in top gear , you need to use the default ports . For exmaple in my preferences the default port range was from 10,000 - 60,000 . My nat would have blocked most of ,if not all of them so i changed the range to 6881-6999 and i did the same with my modem.

    In Bittornado , i had a yellow indicator light which meant "i had not recieved any incomming connection from others" . I think this means i did not have any remote clients , as opposed to local ones connected to the tracker . I got a green indicator now meaning i got the best possible connection and looking at my current download , 95% of 180 current connections are remote clients.
    You do the math . :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭padraigf


    If your nat blocks ports over 10000 why wudnt it block ports 6881 ? You seem to be very misinformed about how NAT works. Itll only forward the ports that u instruct it to. I told it to forward the high ports that i use, u told it to forward the low ports that u use. I'm quite sure that I have mine set up correctly and you do too.

    What i was saying is that a higher port would be *better* due to lower throttling and visibility. Some sites block usage of 6881 for this reason.

    Please don't try to tell me that anyway other than your own is wrong. I think I understand just a little about how it works.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Bodan


    i cant help you with this sparky as i dont use bitcomet.
    I recommend Bittorando . Its an advanced version of the orgional Bit torrent client and easy to use for newbies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Bodan


    First of all , i doubt many newbies know they have to open ports in there nat , as BT will still work just at a reduced capacity .

    I understand you point of changing ports to a degree , but i dont think its important .
    Please don't try to tell me that anyway other than your own is wrong

    if you read that in my posts , then your are snootier than i thought.
    The object of my 1st post in this thread was to help the other guys who were stuck . You , the self appointed expert were just boasting about your speed . How lame


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    ive changed to bitlord now and done the NAT stuff and im getting 36kb/s which will do me, I used bittornado and did'nt like it because it took ages aswell, but thanks for the help anyways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭Grayarea


    Bodan wrote:
    I think you do need to use ports 6881-6999 if incoming clients are going to connect to you . The alternative would be for the tracker to tell the clients what ports you have made available and also for those clients to pass those ports onto remote clients using a different tracker . This , imho , is highly unlikely .

    This is *exactly* what happens.

    Your client informs the tracker of your incomming port and then all remote clients know which port you are using.

    Using 6881-6999 makes it very easy for an ISP to identify bittorrent traffic and throttle the port. Using a non standard port (as mentioned else where) preferably above 20000 makes it much harder for an ISP to deal with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    Thread moved and some posts edited/deleted.

    Mentioning that you're downloading illegal stuff is usually a banning offence you morons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    Moriarty wrote:
    Thread moved and some posts edited/deleted.

    Mentioning that you're downloading illegal stuff is usually a banning offence you morons.
    opps sorry! forgot i shouldnt mention "certain things". :o
    And for my stupidity I respect you for calling me a moron :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    sillild wrote:
    I had the same problem with different clients azureus,Turbo torrent etc.
    I now using Bitlord and it works way better kb's go from 5 to 40 and 52 if you have a well seeded torrent.
    lol tht client does work well but its full of porn ads and artificial weed sales lol


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