3 Network In Ireland

10-03-2006 12:15am

Commander Vimes wrote:

a gsm mast has a range around 40 miles but a 3g mast has a range of 3.7 miles

Is this solely because of the difference between 900MHz and 2100MHz? I always assumed that.

long_b · 10-03-2006 8:18am

Slightly hijacking thread here but does anyone know when they're getting Nokias back on their list of available handsets ?

Its funny that they dropped the 6680 completely, given that its in all their billboard adverts ..

Sam Vimes · 10-03-2006 9:02am

Karsini wrote:

Is this solely because of the difference between 900MHz and 2100MHz? I always assumed that.

no idea why its range is shorter, just know that it is

long_b wrote:

Slightly hijacking thread here but does anyone know when they're getting Nokias back on their list of available handsets ?

Its funny that they dropped the 6680 completely, given that its in all their billboard adverts ..

should be getting the 6280 soon and that'll replace the 6680 totally because it has eveything the 6680 has plus a radio and a better camera.

i thought it was odd too that they'd publish the 6680 all over the country and then drop it a month later

Cabaal · 10-03-2006 10:56am

Commander Vimes wrote:

i thought it was odd too that they'd publish the 6680 all over the country and then drop it a month later

False advertising perhaps?
The fact their affectively advertising a phone they don't offer

Sam Vimes · 10-03-2006 11:52am

to be fair, when they made the ads they were offering the phone. and since they're now offering a better phone for the same price (give or take e20) i'll let them away with it

Cabaal · 10-03-2006 11:59am

Commander Vimes wrote:

to be fair, when they made the ads they were offering the phone. and since they're now offering a better phone for the same price (give or take e20) i'll let them away with it

Are they?
I see no sign of ANY Nokia phone on their site at present.

JimmySmith · 10-03-2006 12:01pm

Belfunk wrote:

They told me the N70 would also be on sale with 3 this Friday

Its Friday

the-ging · 10-03-2006 12:06pm

JimmySmith wrote:

Its Friday

Yes it is but are you susprised that there is no N70 or 6280 on the 3 website!

Did you try CPW to see if they actually have it?

Cabaal · 10-03-2006 1:08pm

I'm not surprised at all in fairness, you'll prop see then N70 n co on the website within two months

Sam Vimes · 10-03-2006 1:28pm

Cabaal wrote:

Are they?
I see no sign of ANY Nokia phone on their site at present.

its not there yet. its the 6280. its been expected for about two months so i'd say cancelling the 6680 was the last step before introducing it

Belfunk · 10-03-2006 7:38pm

was onto 3 on Henry street today guess what they don't have either phone "in the next two weeks" was the date i was told. I heard that in December.

rogue-entity · 10-03-2006 9:03pm

Commander Vimes wrote:

except that i saw one working in a 6230. thats not 3g. 3 don't make their sim cards dual mode even though they can, in other words they lock them to 3g phones just like i said.

Yes, 3G phones, but not just 3G phones from 3. Any unlocked one will work, but you are right.

Commander Vimes wrote:

trust me on this, i sold 3 phones until about a week ago. they care about the 3g features, not so much the calls. to quote the rep from 3: "3 isn't about phones, its about content". the whole point of the company is that its 3g, offering 3g services for money. if they "make their money the same way the other networks do" there's not much point building only 3g masts. a gsm mast has a range around 40 miles but a 3g mast has a range of 3.7 miles. they build far more masts at a cost of roughly 500,000 each so people will download clips and make them money

True, but 3 still make money in the same way as the other networks. 3 will most likly sell sim packs, but they will only work in 3G phones. This is just to make sure that there customers will be able to use there 3G services, where as you said, they will make there "real" money. The reason that they would insist on you buying a phone is just so that they can guarentee that you will be able to use there 3G services out of the box.

Anyway, I am not bothered too much about Threepay, I like my bill service.
Since 3 is still a small player in the irish market, they charge a lot for the calls and give a lot of there 3G content away for free. In contrast Voda, charge for almost everything on there 3G portal. I have no doubt that 3 will start charging more once they get more customers to charge. Then the calls may go down as they will push the 3G Video Call service instead. But that is probably wishful thinking.

Jam Man · 10-03-2006 10:23pm

rogue-entity wrote:

Since 3 is still a small player in the irish market, they charge a lot for the calls and give a lot of there 3G content away for free. In contrast Voda, charge for almost everything on there 3G portal. I have no doubt that 3 will start charging more once they get more customers to charge. Then the calls may go down as they will push the 3G Video Call service instead. But that is probably wishful thinking.

I only joined Three 'cos their calls were so cheap!

€60 for 600 minutes??!!

rogue-entity · 10-03-2006 11:36pm

Jam Man wrote:

I only joined Three 'cos their calls were so cheap!

€60 for 600 minutes??!!

I joined 3 for the same reason, but I when I was talking about three's call charges being expensive, I was referring to the charges outside your minutes which work out to 30c for mobiles and 15c for landlines and 3 numbers. I would still consider this a lot for calls. Landlines are still a lot cheaper. And like landlines it costs the operators almost nothing to route calls on there own network.

But compared to the big two, 3 is definatly the cheapest, and it is welcome competition in the market.

Now, to go back on topic, does anyone have an update on the launch of the Threepay service? Calling C/S is no good as they will just tell you that they only find out around the same time as the website is updated. They seem to be kept in the dark on these things.

Sam Vimes · 11-03-2006 1:35am

Belfunk wrote:

was onto 3 on Henry street today guess what they don't have either phone "in the next two weeks" was the date i was told. I heard that in December.

the shop on henry street isn't 3, its 3g. they're completely separate companies. 3g is irish owned. 3 is owned by a japanese corporation called hutchinson whampoa

the 6280 thing is annoying me at this stage. how feckin long can it take to put them in a box and ship them

optiplexgx270 · 11-03-2006 1:36am

I recon a new range of phones will come with the introduction of threepay in the coming months.

BuffyBot · 11-03-2006 2:07am

3 is owned by a japanese corporation called hutchinson whampoa

Hong Kong actually

Cabaal · 11-03-2006 3:41am

More info about Three
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_%28telecommunications%29

mayhem# · 12-03-2006 2:26am

I've had a lot of comments from people lately that they have been trying to call me but after dailing my number they got a message stating that "their call could not be connected at the moment". And that's it.
No voicemail, no nothing...
Anybody else experiencing this?

E.

Cabaal · 12-03-2006 3:45am

mayhem# wrote:

I've had a lot of comments from people lately that they have been trying to call me but after dailing my number they got a message stating that "their call could not be connected at the moment". And that's it.
No voicemail, no nothing...
Anybody else experiencing this?

E.

Yes, but only when dialing from a Meteor phone
I've even tested it with my Nokia 6100 with a meteor sim and from time to time I get this message. The message seems to come from Meteor and not Three

Sam Vimes · 12-03-2006 2:22pm

does anyone know if 3 can stop a text sending multiple times? i sent one to an australian number and she's got it 6 times so far. i phoned 3 and the guy said that she has to ring her network to get it to stop.

the analogy he used was if a postman tries to deliver a letter to someone's house and they're not in, he keeps trying. but surely there's some way to shoot the postman?

Cabaal · 12-03-2006 3:46pm

not sure if there's a way to stop it, all I know is I txted a friend in the US twice and both times he got the message 16 times. They stopped on their own basically

BrianD · 12-03-2006 4:16pm

I had the same issue with a colleague who was roaming in the UK. He got the message on the hour for a day. Three gave me a similar reasoning about the network not giving a delivey receipt so it keeps trying to deliver. However, this doesn't happen with other networks (that I have experienced) and 3 need to sort this one out. It would be very embarassing in my colleague had of been a business contact.

1huge1 · 12-03-2006 9:30pm

Commander Vimes wrote:

the shop on henry street isn't 3, its 3g. they're completely separate companies. 3g is irish owned. 3 is owned by a japanese corporation called hutchinson whampoa

the 6280 thing is annoying me at this stage. how feckin long can it take to put them in a box and ship them

actually its a hong kong company

Sam Vimes · 12-03-2006 10:11pm

1huge1 wrote:

actually its a hong kong company

indeed it is. i stand corrected. somewhere in my brain i associated hong kong with japan

Jam Man · 13-03-2006 2:12pm

Commander Vimes wrote:

indeed it is. i stand corrected. somewhere in my brain i associated hong kong with japan

and it's Hutchison Whampoa, not Hutchinson....;)

paulm17781 · 13-03-2006 2:35pm

Commander Vimes wrote:

the multiple text thing happened with o2 ireland so it has nothing to do with roaming.

I've had the multiple texts issue a few times. Three times when people were away (both O2) and once while someone was in Dublin, also O2.

Sam Vimes · 13-03-2006 7:19pm

Jam Man wrote:

and it's Hutchison Whampoa, not Hutchinson....;)

if you read back i originally called it hutchinson whampoa and then just shortened it

optiplexgx270 · 13-03-2006 7:25pm

HG3I as we like to call them.

1huge1 · 13-03-2006 11:46pm

lets just leave it with 3 or Three
anyway you know how they got rid of the roaming charges for the UK well do you think they will do the same with other european countries
i suppose they will go for the ones were they have 3 networks
i know italy has a 3 network but does spain and germany?

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