Mondeo ST200 or ST220 beat BMW 735

camarobill

Ratchet wrote:

lets compare hi spec laguna to S class Merc.

I am getting out of this forum

7 series and Mondeo are 2 different cars and hardly big BMW would be your caravan horse .

It's natural that you will have more use for Mondeo when looking at daily use and comparing it to 7 series which most of you Mondeo chooser's wouldn't be able to afford anyway even without service cost . This just waste of time

It maybe isn't everybody's cup of tea but you buy 7 series for different reasons. It's everybody's own preference, budget and daily needs which will have influence a car purchase.

I could say I don't like new mustang as has not enough loading space when comparing to (not slow) Audi s4 avant but this statement is total Spaghetti bolonez as most of replies to this thread.

calm down,a bit off piss takeing going on :rolleyes:

ubu

in relation to the BMW's there does seem to be alot of fans of the brand here, but that is not necessarily a bad thing, the dominance of the brand has some justification, but at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference, for me,
i would take the A3 over the 1 series
id take the 3 series over a C class/A4
id take a 5 series over an E class or A6
but id take an S class/A8 over a 7 series
id probably take a 5.0 TDI toureg over an X5 aswell

in relation to the st220 and 7 series, they are two totally different cars and to compare them is not practical as they serve totally different purposes

MustangCobra

Ratchet wrote:

I could say I don't like new mustang as has not enough loading space when comparing to (not slow) Audi s4 avant but this statement is total Spaghetti bolonez as most of replies to this thread.

Are you losing it or what, comparing the new Mustang against a Audi S4

Have a look at this;-

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2005/roushindealers.php

damo605

735? Looks, sounds and handles like nothing else but garaunteed to break your heart like nothing else!
I'm no fan of Ford but if someone offered me a '95 1.6 Mondeo for 15 grand I'd rather pay it than take a span new 7 series for free.... I've driven BMW and so have some good friends of mine and when ever we meet up in the pub and start talking about cars it is a BMW bashing conversation - The only people who think we are mad are the people who have never owned one and gone broke from trying to maintain them!
Perfect example is when I had a problem with my 5 series (One of many) and it was the first working day after a fairly cold christmas - I rang main BMW dealer in Cork city and they couldn't look at my car for 'at least' 10 days as all their guys (and the servie dept. bloke actually told me this over the phone) were out picking up all the "break downs".... Same day a mate rang Toyota main dealer in Cork city to book in for a service and they told him to come in whenever he wanted as it was a very quiet period and there would be absolutely no problem fitting him in (i.e. Give the lads something to do)!
There's something suspect here lads - Looks to me like certain car manufacturers are still making a buck or two off a reputation they made for themselves many years ago and people are now just buying the badge instead of the car.... I never had and probably never would have a Ford but: for God's sake go for the ST200 or 220 as if your life depended on it 'cause your sanity (and wallet) does!

unkel

damo605 wrote:

if someone offered me a '95 1.6 Mondeo for 15 grand I'd rather pay it than take a span new 7 series for free

Now we've seen it all. Ta 528i for the reply I was hoping to get. Mods please close now

528i

Shtopp.. dis place if fulla loonies.. everyone knows a new 7-series would come with the full manufacturers warranty

that guy

Well. It's nice to be remembered I suppose, though somewhat inaccurately.

The 735 was just one of a long list of test drives. I know I was a bit all over the place, but I reckon it's one of the most difficult motoring purchases - the family friendly performance car. Family friendly? -Easy. Performance? -easy. But try getting both, and for 15 to 20k?

I've always loved the big 7 series but they say never meet your heroes and I was not blown away by the test drive. Steering was over light and I dunno I suppose I expected more thunderous performance from my first spin in a v8. I'd say you'd need to drive it for a few months to start to appreciate it fully.

I thought all along that a 528 would fulfill my list of requirements but was looking a long time for the right spec and the right colour and the right price, and she never materialised. It'd either have a tape deck cloth seats and no aircon, or all the extras and be decked out in fcukin toyota avensis wine red! And let me tell you that babies and super-absorbent cloth upholstery are not a healthy combination

Have the mondeo now for about 6 months and 'tis grand as they say. Road tax and fuel economy are a bit of a downer. She's due a couple of things as well now so tires are ordered and she's booked in for a service. All in all, grand car - bit of poke, looks well, plenty of room, sounds great, fully spec'd, low mileage, wasn't too dear and hasn't given us any problems yet (fingers crossed). Can't have been too bad a choice eh?

As for the bm, maybe next time.

lomb

that guy wrote:

I dunno I suppose I expected more thunderous performance from my first spin in a v8. I'd say you'd need to drive it for a few months to start to appreciate it fully.

which is why u need a 4.4liter v8 740i instead of the 735 which is somewhat of a compromise or on the new one the 745i

unkel

that guy wrote:

Well. It's nice to be remembered I suppose, though somewhat inaccurately.

Welcome to boards, Aogan, I knew you'd show up

that guy

I migrated to octane initially. Never realised boards was such a vast conglomerate.

528i

there's a personal problems section if you need to just talk about that ford affliction or anything, I had a sore testicle last week and boards help me through it.

chicken_food

@ that guy
What color ST220 do u have?? And where'd u get it?
I have the priveledge of one aswell. Ur the second guy iv ever heard of who has one. To get a test drive in one the garage had to ring up the only guy he knew that had one. licence was **-d-220 sad but it convinced us that the st220 was the car to get!

that guy

I thought they only came in one colour ??? - ford racing blue.

Anyway, that's what colour it is. -You don't live near in the spawell tallaght templeogue environs do you? There's a guy round there with one. Our one is the four door saloon, which I beliebe is paricularly unusual. They were initially made in estate and hatchback forms and towards the end of production made a saloon, of which I think only a handful (200 or something) were brought to the uk.

Whoever bought it from new tinkered about with it very slightly - it's got a performance air filter and it's been lowered very slightly and the suspension stiffened a bit - I dunno why the fcuk he did that, they're hard enough as standard. Lowering it definitely helps the looks though

fletch

that guy wrote:

I thought they only came in one colour ??? - ford racing blue.

that guy, that ST220 looks sweet, what I wouldn't do for a drive. My Da has a '00 1.8 Zetec-E & she's a flier and the things grimps the road like a limpet!

528i

If it werent for the teg-type R oz racing alloys and micky mouse exhausts, it could easily be mistaken for a cop-car

chicken_food

Is that not the st2000 rather than the st220??
We had a st2000 before the 220. Still have the old st2000-great for the odd sunday drive. A remarkable difference between the old one and the new one. Both unique. Both cars are silver,saloons. @that guy-u shudve kept the original alloys!

that guy

Never heard of an st2000.

What you see there is an st200. There's a lot of confusion actually on the web about what exactly is what, between the st24's and st220's etc. The st220 is the 3 litre petrol ST version of the latest model mondeo - see "ford pic. The st200 which we have is a 2.5l v6 and it's clearly (from other pic) the ST version of the previous model mondeo, just as you have the focus ST170. Like I said I've never heard of an st2000, you're not thinking of the escort RS2000 by any chance? The st24 was the ST version of the older mondeo again - it was a 2.5 v6, but less poke -170bhp I think. I think it's the same as what in 2000 was sold as the ghia v6.

Anyway, sorry chicken food, did you say you had the newer model st220? It's not black by any chance is it? I saw one last thursday in Ranelagh. First one I've seen on Irish roads - looks very nice.

As for my alloys - that's the way I bought the car. The original owner ditched the original ST jobs. -I'd never have bothered myself but looking at the web pic below and comparing it to our own car, I think your man was actually spot on with lowering it a little bit. It definitely looks better. She's murder on poor surfaces though - drive over a coin and I could identify the denomination.

Exhausts/body kit etc are all factory standard and fully functional...

Gatster

If I can find one (probably in the Uk) an ST200 Saloon may well make it onto my consider list - Any problems, how's insurance etc?

bazz26

A nice ST220 for sale here:

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=109005

unkel

bazz26 wrote:

A nice ST220 for sale here:

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=109005

Overpriced though

SterlingV6

a bmw driver calling a ford overpriced, he need only look at most bmws on sale!

TempestSabre

Ratchet wrote:

how you can compare these two cars ?

they are totally different class of a car and serve different purpose

I don't get it either. Ones a luxury barge the other a mid priced family saloon that has the best chassis and handling in its class. Both nice cars but for completely different types of use.

Why not compare a brand new sports bike with brand new micra. :rolleyes:

SouperComputer

HDF did this thread get dragged from the dead?

drdre

the 7 series is just an amazing car.mondeo is for losers:D

unkel

SouperComputer wrote:

HDF did this thread get dragged from the dead?

Indeed. Why?

TempestSabre wrote:

I don't get it either

Perhaps if you RTFT?

It was aimed at something I remembered a motornet (RIP) user had posted

TempestSabre

unkel wrote:

Indeed. Why?

Perhaps if you RTFT?

It was aimed at something I remembered a motornet (RIP) user had posted

Don't care what prompted it. Its like buying a retirment home in florida and then buying a nightclub in Miami instead. What did he have a personality flip or something. I remember a 20 something guy in work buying a 520 then selling it. When asked why he said "I felt like an old man driving it".

Now where did I put my pipe and wurthers originals, ah over there beside my racing leathers.

mondeoman

drdre wrote:

the 7 series is just an amazing car.mondeo is for losers:D

for a 'losers' car they certainly do drive good,better that anything in it's CLASS which the 7series is clearly not(in its class):rolleyes:

maidhc

drdre wrote:

the 7 series is just an amazing car.mondeo is for losers:D

What a pointless comment.