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These sick 'Beatdown' threads!

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    #2
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    I haven't bothered looking and while i agree that they probably shouldn't be allowed, it could be argued that you can avoid them by simply not clicking on the thread...


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    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I have'nt looked (like why would I?). But if they are simply gratuitous violence designed to amuse/shock browsers then on balance I'd say no they should'nt be posted. While I'm agin censorship I belive in classification/restriction based on age, as After Hours is open house then the links should be removed.

    Mike.


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    #4
    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    I'm pretty sure those sort of vids are against the general rules of boards.ie.


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    #5
    Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    BAN THIS SICK FILTH NOW!


    No really, do. That's just not on.


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    #6
    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Thanks for the support on this.

    While i see the logic in saying if you don't like it, don't click on it! But what's stopping Boards users posting porn / copyrighted material and saying if you don't like it, don't click on it!

    These videos are just pure sick.. and i know if some young Board user clicked on it, they would get quite a shock! It's pretty different (and much more shocking) to the 'cartoonish' violence in GTA / Manhunt etc.


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    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    basquille wrote:
    Thanks for the support on this.

    While i see the logic in saying if you don't like it, don't click on it! But what's stopping Boards users posting porn / copyrighted material and saying if you don't like it, don't click on it!

    These videos are just pure sick.. and i know if some young Board user clicked on it, they would get quite a shock! It's pretty different (and much more shocking) to the 'cartoonish' violence in GTA / Manhunt etc.

    you're right....


    Are these video's even legal to be shown/posted here?

    Actually is there anyway to restrict certain threads based on age....or is it way too much hassle?


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    KdjaCL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    To be illegal they would need to be banned by Irish law or contain illegal images.


    Tbh dont click on them if you dont want to see them, like you would turn off Binge Drink UK on Sky 1 every night you know what its going to contain so why click?

    You have the power not to watch it so use it.

    kdjac


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    #9
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Think of the children...

    Mike.


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    #10
    Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    Too much hassle.

    Easiest way would probably be to get people to pay a small sum via credit card (to "prove" they're over 18) so they can be added to a special user group, but I dunno if the admins want to go down the route of providing that sort of stuff in the first place.


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    #11
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    KdjaC wrote:
    To be illegal they would need to be banned by Irish law or contain illegal images.
    kdjac

    TBH, i have chosen not to bother watching these videos but surely if they contain people being assualted or whatever that's illegal.

    But i suppose boxing is people assualting each other too, innit?


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    #12
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Moriarty wrote:
    Too much hassle.

    Easiest way would probably be to get people to pay a small sum via credit card (to "prove" they're over 18) so they can be added to a special user group, but I dunno if the admins want to go down the route of providing that sort of stuff in the first place.

    Or what all those porn sites do and say click here to swear you're over 18.....so i've been reliably informed, ahem!


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    #13
    MickFarr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭MickFarr


    basquille wrote:
    I'm really pi**ed off at seeing these 'beatdown' threads containing truly sick videos of people being beaten to a bloody pulp.

    Such as: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=234629 and http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=232481

    It's horrible..

    Anyone agree with me and think these sorta videos should be specified in the charter as being against the rules?

    I never seen those threads before but I have now. I don't think it should be banned. I think we've all seen a lot worse than that but I do understand that it might not be suitable for some.


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    abccormac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭abccormac


    The first one in particular is genuinely nasty.


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    #15
    quank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭quank


    Shouldn't be banned. Boards.ie should just have a big old warning thing for when you register here, saying something like:
    "We are not responsible of what users post."

    And Basquille:
    "and i know if some young Board user clicked on it, they would get quite a shock!"

    Are you serious? When you say young, what age are you implying? I think the only age of a child that would be "shocked" from it is a 5 year-old or younger.

    Your reasons seem old-fashioned. Kids have seen alot worse, especially if they have the internet in the first place.


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    #16
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    quank wrote:
    Boards.ie should just have a big old warning thing for when you register here, saying something like:
    "We are not responsible of what users post."

    While i agree with the sentiment and wish that such a warning was enough, unfortuenatly under (the ridiculous) irish law, the owners of Boards are deemed responsible for everything published :eek:


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    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    quank wrote:
    Shouldn't be banned. Boards.ie should just have a big old warning thing for when you register here, saying something like:
    "We are not responsible of what users post."

    And Basquille:
    "and i know if some young Board user clicked on it, they would get quite a shock!"

    Are you serious? When you say young, what age are you implying? I think the only age of a child that would be "shocked" from it is a 5 year-old or younger.

    Your reasons seem old-fashioned. Kids have seen alot worse, especially if they have the internet in the first place.
    Boards.ie, in fact, directly responsible for what users post.
    In the eyes of Irish law boards.ie is a publisher; as much as any newspaper or magazine.


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    Xcom2
    Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Xcom2


    People young enough to be offended by this should not have unsupervised access to the internet! , if they do it's the parent's fault! Plain and simple!

    Adult's who are offended by this should really go out and live in the real world as there is nothing that is taboo or indecent in it!.

    X...


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    #19
    Sand
    Registered Users Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Shouldn't be banned. Boards.ie should just have a big old warning thing for when you register here, saying something like:
    "We are not responsible of what users post."

    You dont get sued for whatever you post, be it the most downright filthy, depraved and immoral crime against human dignity, Boards.ie does. Warnings like you propose dont change that. The law is an ass.


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    Mercury_Tilt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭Mercury_Tilt


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    #21
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Mercury_Tilt wrote:
    This post has been deleted.

    I'm sure they'll choose not to read that....


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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    oh deear, some not so bright people in this thread.

    Actually is there anyway to restrict certain threads based on age....or is it way too much hassle?


    Why should they retrict it? They are not legally obliged to retrict. If someone wants to watch these videos they should be allowed. Its not against the law.

    but surely if they contain people being assualted or whatever that's illegal.

    How excactly is it illegal?! If you witness an assualt on the street, is you witnessing it illegal?! Are you meant to close your eyes and look away when a crime happens now?
    Easiest way would probably be to get people to pay a small sum via credit card (to "prove" they're over 18) so they can be added to a special user group

    So people should have to pay to prove they are over 18?! oh dear...

    Once they videos are legal to show they should be allowed, which they are.


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    #23
    CuLT
    Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    Chucky the tree wrote:
    oh deear, some not so bright people in this thread.

    Indeed, some of them can't even spell correctly when they insult the intelligence of others!


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    #24
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I never saw the video in the first thread, and the video in the second thread is more comical than violent, hence why I left it.

    Like most other things, each one has to be taken as it comes. If the content isn't illegal, then I think "If I was 13, what would I think of this link?", and make my call based on that.


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    #25
    abccormac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭abccormac


    Once they videos are legal to show they should be allowed, which they are.

    Porn is legal but its not allowed here.


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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    abccormac wrote:
    Porn is legal but its not allowed here.


    porn isnt legal to show to u18s, thats why its banned.


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    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    seamus wrote:
    I never saw the video in the first thread, and the video in the second thread is more comical than violent, hence why I left it.
    You do have a point there.. the second one is more comical. It was more the first video i was talking about.

    The second one had no close-up's of bleeding out of orifices etc.


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    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Chucky the tree wrote:
    porn isnt legal to show to u18s, thats why its banned.
    And violence like that would probably be lucky to scrape it into an 18's video... no, actually violence like that would get banned if in a movie out there.


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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    basquille wrote:
    You do have a point there.. the second one is more comical. It was more the first video i was talking about.

    The second one had no close-up's of bleeding out of orifices etc.



    so once there isnt bleeding its fine?


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    Mercury_Tilt
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    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    basquille wrote:
    And violence like that would probably be lucky to scrape it into an 18's video... no, actually violence like that would get banned if in a movie out there.


    its doesnt matter though, this movies dont have to be censored. "if's" arent counted.

    Like those world wildest police videos. YOu see rights and people getting the head kicked of them, they are shown. And before the watershed.


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