Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Warning: Contains traces of Maths...

Options
  • 20-03-2005 8:05pm
    #1
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/People/mummert/poker/

    This is the poker equivalent of porn to me. I've always wanted to see this kind of analysis. Its certainly not for the faint hearted but if a player could internalise their findings, I'd say they'd come to appear very "lucky" over time!

    DeV.


Comments

  • Options
    #2
    NickyOD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    "In poker, when every other player knows what your hand is, you suffer tremendous disadvantage. Just playing good cards is not sufficient,"

    Anyone who wants to win tournaments should write that down. Even online you've got play with crap cards to win.

    Interesting analysis. This one's getting a printout me thinks. I love the way he tears Skalnsky groupings to shreds.


  • Options
    #3
    BrendanB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭BrendanB


    Tom, I worry about you. I really do. You do know they have ..actual.. porn on the internet now?

    Anyway, I saw this a while back - I don't hugely value this kind of analysis. Maybe, maybe at low stakes limit games you can pull off simulations like these, but in decent games I just don't buy the simulation assumptions. While NL turns Sklansky on it's head anyway, their model just ignores too many variables for use in NL. To be honest, how many showdowns do you see in a NL game? 20%? Less? And all of this ignores factors like implied odds, which are a goodly chunk of the value of small pairs in NL.


  • Options
    #4
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I agree Brendan to an extent. I think its all grist to the mill though. Poker depends on your read and how accurate that is, but once you decide the range of hands you might be playing against then the maths plays ITS role. This is why computers are very poor NL players, because they dont (yet) possess the soft skills.

    I do think the solution space is far more complex then people understand and all of those little edges will add up if you could fully understand them.

    I'm off to look at some graphs and rub myself....

    DeV.


Advertisement