England v Northern Ireland

nlgbbbblth

come on Northern Ireland

show that arrogant English shower!

some people at work were saying they were supporting England against NI.
I told them that such behaviour is a disgrace.

NI have the morons who forced Lennon off the side.
ROI have the morons who boo Rangers players.
No difference.

They wear green.
They've got Ireland in their name.
That's good enough for me

KdjaCL

They are so fcuked its not even funny.


On another note being them only up the road odd how they so rightly fcuked but if we were playing them i would expect us to beat them.



kdjac

bizmark

3-0 england

NI have the morons who forced Lennon off the side.
ROI have the morons who boo Rangers players.
No difference.
.

Theres a massive difference between booing and death threats tbh

thejollyrodger

yeah Norn Iron are set for a proper monkeying alright. Didnt that Sunderland player pull out (probably cos he expected a thrashing). maybe thats not fair but I expect England to win 4+ Nill. maybe norn iron can pull off a draw. Best of luck

Big Ears

England 0-0 Northern Ireland , I think McCarthney is the name of the Sunderland player that pulled out .

mike65

Sure this is bound to be the England banana-skin and a great moral victory for the plucky underdogs of Championship/League 1 and 2 football...;)

Mike.

nlgbbbblth

bizmark wrote:

Theres a massive difference between booing and death threats tbh

there's also a massive numerical difference between the number of people who made the death threat to Lennon (one) and the number of so-called Republic of Ireland fans who boo Rangers players playing for their country (thousands)

Chucky the tree

nlgbbbblth wrote:

there's also a massive numerical difference between the number of people who made the death threat to Lennon (one) and the number of so-called Republic of Ireland fans who boo Rangers players playing for their country (thousands)

so no one booed lennon when he played for northern ireland?!

The_B_Man

Lawrie Sanchez said in an interview about their record. he said they haven't won at home under him and havent lost away under him. he also said he, not only is expecting that record to be upheld against England, but also againt Austria on Wednesday. NI are definately the underdogs for this match. so much so that i think, in fact, most neutrals* will be up for NI.

NI are getting wrote off so badly by the english press that i think a NI win would be just the ticket to make everyones year. just imagine it!

oh and this is just askin to be blown back in their face

*neutral men, coz lets face it, if beckhams playin, all the women will be up for england! typical!

Mossy Monk

nlgbbbblth wrote:

I told them that such behaviour is a disgrace.[/I]

nothing wrong with a sense of realism

England to win by at least 2

cournioni

3-0 England. Northern Ireland don't have a chance.

Badabing

England to win 4-1, although it could be tight for the first 5 minutes.

eirebhoy

England 2-2 N.Ireland.

Highlander

on a seperate point, heard on Sky Sports last night that there will be only one National Anthem played for both teams, i.e God Save the Queen, do you think Northern Ireland should have it's own unique anthem for sporting occasions

Big Ears

Highlander wrote:

on a seperate point, heard on Sky Sports last night that there will be only one National Anthem played for both teams, i.e God Save the Queen, do you think Northern Ireland should have it's own unique anthem for sporting occasions

its simple really , Nationlist:yes , Unionist:no .

nlgbbbblth

Chucky the tree wrote:

so no one booed lennon when he played for northern ireland?!

Yes, Lennon was booed when playing for N.I.
By a fairly small minority of arseholes.
But it was the death threat that made him quit.

Wonder who Martin O'Neill, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy, Gerry Armstrong etc will be shouting for

Badabing

I would say Gerry Armstrong will be up for Northern ireland him being assistant manager

nlgbbbblth

btw - I was watching an Ireland game in a city centre pub a while back and a group of Celtic jersey-clad Irish fans were shouting abuse at the television screen every time Alan Maybury had the ball - because he's a protestant who plays for Hearts.

Another occasion, also in a Dublin pub, saw a friend of mine being threatened with extreme violence for applauding Barcelona's goal against Celtic last November. He's supported them since he was about 8. He left the pub soon afterwards.

If Ireland ever had a player who signed for Rangers do you think he would get abuse from Irish supporters?

Don't assume it can't happen here.

eirebhoy

nlgbbbblth wrote:

NI have the morons who forced Lennon off the side.
ROI have the morons who boo Rangers players.
No difference.

there's also a massive numerical difference between the number of people who made the death threat to Lennon (one) and the number of so-called Republic of Ireland fans who boo Rangers players playing for their country (thousands)

Yes, Lennon was booed when playing for N.I.
By a fairly small minority of arseholes.
But it was the death threat that made him quit.

Wonder who Martin O'Neill, Pat Jennings, Mal Donaghy, Gerry Armstrong etc will be shouting for

btw - I was watching an Ireland game in a city centre pub a while back and a group of Celtic jersey-clad Irish fans were shouting abuse at the television screen every time Alan Maybury had the ball - because he's a protestant who plays for Hearts.

Another occasion, also in a Dublin pub, saw a friend of mine being threatened with extreme violence for applauding Barcelona's goal against Celtic last November. He's supported them since he was about 8. He left the pub soon afterwards.

If Ireland ever had a player who signed for Rangers do you think he would get abuse from Irish supporters?

Don't assume it can't happen here.

Why did you name this thread "England v Northern Ireland"?

nlgbbbblth

eirebhoy wrote:

Why did you name this thread "England v Northern Ireland"?

- see my first post.

- because they are playing each other this weekend.

- I know you are a Celtic fan, you know that I am not. Hence your displeasure and the quoting of my points out of context as one continuous post.

- anyway, who will you be shouting for? if you had to pick one?

A Dub in Glasgo

eirebhoy wrote:

Why did you name this thread "England v Northern Ireland"?

lol exactly

Should have been named 'I hate Celtic btw NI are playing England as well'

NI have no chance but that does not mean I would not like NI to win - I would.

Some people :rolleyes:

Big Ears

I am also supporting Northern Ireland .

nlgbbbblth

English media have made some very disparaging comments towards the N.I. squad this week. This is sure to fire the Irish players.

England can frequently struggle against "weaker" teams.

Plus - they are not as good as they think they are.

If the N.I. defence can keep England scoreless for the first 30 mins they will rattle them. Hard to see N.I. getting too many scoring opportunites though.
A 0-0 is a definite possibility.
Although if N.I. get an early goal it could be like Stuttgart all over again.

thejollyrodger

apart from the God save the Queen muck at the start , excluding all the racist elements in the NI fan base and not listening to the booing of any non protestant player, I think I will be happy to see norn iron come away with a result.

England are over rated, they have a few good players but never come together as a team. They always have something missing. I expect the northern paddies can battle for most of the match.

gsand

This post is a joke

you start with some racist bashing-arrogant blah blah blah

diverge into idiot abuse stories-shouting at the television

and then seem to have a secondary interest in football

yeah ok...

england to win 1-0 or 2-1 btw. as said above they struggle with weaker teams and a weight of expectation...in addition whenever they go ahead especially against weaker teams they seem to go to sleep...

nlgbbbblth

gsand wrote:

you start with some racist bashing-arrogant blah blah blah

Yeah, guess I must be unique in calling them arrogant. I am sure no one else agrees with that opinion.
How can you attribute it to racism? :rolleyes:

gsand

how is it not generalised racism?

all the people in england are arrogant?

anyway. forget it. wrong forum

nlgbbbblth

gsand wrote:

how is it not generalised racism?

all the people in england are arrogant?

anyway. forget it. wrong forum

the players, the coaching staff, their tabloid media (which perversely sells massively over here)

- not all the people.

thejollyrodger

Who thinks this will be Sven's last World Cup. Personally I think it will. All the meaningless friendlies, crazy american tournaments, endless tatical changes when clearly they dont work. I wouldnt be surprised if England get knocked out straight afte the group stages and Sven will be on his way.

a draw against the norn iron tomorrow might hasten that.

PHB

What bugs me is I think England have the quality to wint he world cup, but Sven is just utterly wasting it. Terrible manager imo, no balls

thejollyrodger

I dont see how you come to that conclusion PHB. England have one or two good players and a LOT of average players. I count current form and not names.

for example, Rooney is all hype but looked very poor against Spain and Milan.
Beckham is in poor form as well. Its been a long time since I have seen him really play.
Smith - liabiliity to do anything (or hit anyone)
et cetra

Töpher

The England team always looks good on paper but can never gel as a team. Or thats how I always feel watching them anyways.

case n basket

thejollyrodger wrote:

I dont see how you come to that conclusion PHB. England have one or two good players and a LOT of average players. I count current form and not names.

for example, Rooney is all hype but looked very poor against Spain and Milan.
Beckham is in poor form as well. Its been a long time since I have seen him really play.
Smith - liabiliity to do anything (or hit anyone)
et cetra

They have a good goalkeeper, several superb defenders, two world class centre midfielders, and two or three very good strikers. They've more than enough quality in there to win tournaments, Greece had a good manager and a lot less ability...

KdjaCL

Svens problem is he reads the papers to see who they picked for him but then he plays them they play bad he has safety in that the papers cant say anything.

I mean he plays with 4 central midfielders just to keep the press happy.


kdjac

Pigman II

I've rooted against Northern Ireland ever since their supporters display of irrationality, bigotry and down-right nastiness before and during the Nov'93 qualifier with us at Windsor.

Tommorrow will be no different. I hope England stuff them 4-0.

_blank_

The game is on BBC today, the Northern Ireland version is the one we'll get here.

If you have a Sky Digibox however, you can tune in the different regional BBC1's, for instance BBC1 London, and get the usual commentaries.

I, for one, cannot stand Jackie Fullerton.

mike65

seansouth wrote:

The game is on BBC today, the Northern Ireland version is the one we'll get here.

If you have a Sky Digibox however, you can tune in the different regional BBC1's, for instance BBC1 London, and get the usual commentaries.

I, for one, cannot stand Jackie Fullerton.

Jesus H...how bad is that?

Mike.

eirebhoy

PHB wrote:

What bugs me is I think England have the quality to wint he world cup, but Sven is just utterly wasting it. Terrible manager imo, no balls

Doesn't bug me at all. My heart says I want N.Ireland to win today even though I hate them. I'm not England's biggest fan either. The fact that they feel there's no chance of them failing to win I have to back the underdog.

two world class centre midfielders

two world class central midfielders but an average central midfield pairing. I'd take Keane and Kilbane any day. Fck what it looks like on paper.

PHB

England have one of the best defenses in the world I think, with Neville Terry Ferdinand and Cole.
They should be able to keep a clean sheet against most teams in the world.

Micheal Owen and Wayne Rooney play well together as a duo, they have shown it before and will show it again.
Midfield is their problem, not because they don't have the players, but because they have a ballless manager who won't cut people.
But if the team lined up with

james
Neville Ferdinand Terry Cole
Beckham Lampard Gerrard Cole
Rooney Owen

I honastly think that team can win the World Cup.
That said, I think they would do better with a central midfield of Butt Lampard/Gerrard

I want to see England do well cause I really like Neville Ferdinand Terry Beckham Rooney and Owen, and have supported 4 out of 6 of them at club level.

eirebhoy

Good prediction PHB.

England: Robinson; Neville, A Cole, Terry, Ferdinand; Beckham (capt), Lampard, J Cole, Gerrard; Rooney, Owen.
Subs: James, Carragher, King, Dyer, Hargreaves, Heskey, Defoe.

Sven is really showing a lack of respect. If this was Brazil they were playing he wouldn't have named his team yet. Boody brutal manager.

PHB

Hopefully Carragher will get a run out, he deserves it.
Lads, Northern Ireland are just terrible He is showing a total lack of respect becaues its like Man Utd playing Exeter, oh wait....

Big Ears

Id love to see David Healy score the scrappiest goal of all time in the 95 minute for N.Ireland to win 1-0 , the pure shock some people would get , people would call for Sven's head too , but I like the way that once he's in charge they won't win anything .

quarryman

anyone know where i can get this streamed online?

or the ireland match?

PHB

Jesus, I thought the Sky Commentary was biased, but this BBC NI is fairly bad

LegacyUser

Ye it is pretty funny.

"Where will Ashley Cole be playing next season with all the shenanigans?" haha

PHB

He has asked that twice, and asked when Owen and Gerrard will be too,

Commentators List of Stuff to say when nothign is happening:
Where is Cole going to be?
Where is Gerrard going to be?
Where is Owen going to be?
Worst case scenario: Where is England? [cue map]

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Cole is getting so much possesion and just producing nothings at the end, ain't the best way to stake your claim to the left wing
Best cross of the game so far has not come from either of the wingers, but from a fullback, I love football

mike65

I've dragged a speaker on a long line from my hi-fi from the NTL analogue connection in my bedroom so I can avoid Fullerton.

Beckham is everywhere except where is should be down the right. NI defence very solid and the midfield giving Lampard little room to shine. Gerrard playing a Hamman-like role.

Mike.

PHB

Oh great, COle got a lucky deflection and now he has scored the goal, gona get man of the match, and now become part of the English team cause Sven has got no balls.
Funny world

Ronan|Raven

Why the defender didnt thump the ball into row x,y and z!

Ronan|Raven

Well thats that. 3- 0

por

It's 4-0 now, I am loving it, watching on BBC NI, they were so smug at being 0-0 at HT,
HA HA