Israel -v- France

knobbles · 30-03-2005 9:26pm

thejollyrodger wrote:

Im happy enough with the Swiss result. They obviosuly arent great away from home only getting the 1 goal.

...they were at home!
still i would have taken 1-0 at the start, group could easily involve goal difference

Chucky the tree · 30-03-2005 9:26pm

seansouth wrote:

Did the Israeli go down like he had been shot, or was it a real headbutt, unlike a certain player mentioned in my sig?

real headbutt.

oh jesus, they have to score!!

case n basket · 30-03-2005 9:28pm

thejollyrodger wrote:

good to hear that he misses the Ireland game. he was on form for France.

lol!

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:30pm

typo doh. he was Frances major goald threat and has scored a lot for France.

KdjaCL · 30-03-2005 9:32pm

thejollyrodger wrote:

typo doh. he was Frances major goald threat and has scored a lot for France.

Hes married to my aunty Frances and is a Goald from Star gate

sorry ^ he started it

kdjac

PHB · 30-03-2005 9:32pm

Yeayaeyheahaehahehe

Alright France, now kill the game off and geta draw.
I was thinking I wanted Vieira sent off, but I realised Keano will be playing so I really want him there

Thinking about it, an Israel win wouldn't be a terrible thing?
If we then beat Israel, it puts us in a good position to take the group.
Come on Israel!

Chucky the tree · 30-03-2005 9:33pm

haahahahahhah get in there!!!!!!!!!

****ing brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!1

knobbles · 30-03-2005 9:33pm

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:34pm

Israel have equalised !!!!!!!!!!!!111

Guy:Incognito · 30-03-2005 9:34pm

knobbles wrote:

...they were at home!
still i would have taken 1-0 at the start, group could easily involve goal difference

it only matters for the games against the people your level with.

Jivin Turkey · 30-03-2005 9:35pm

Probably about ten minutes left lets not get carried away.

bizmark · 30-03-2005 9:35pm

their whores for their late goals

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:37pm

90 minutes gone
Israel 1-1 France

into stoppage time now

mewso · 30-03-2005 9:37pm

bizmark wrote:

their whores for their late goals

Or their opponents are whores for defending 1-0 leads

CrowdedHouse · 30-03-2005 9:38pm

I dont believe it !!!!!

Guy:Incognito · 30-03-2005 9:38pm

thejollyrodger wrote:

90 minutes gone
Israel 1-1 France

into stoppage time now

87 mins gone according to setanta. Howsat work?

knobbles · 30-03-2005 9:41pm

still i would have taken 1-0 at the start, group could easily involve goal difference

Stekelly wrote:

it only matters for the games against the people your level with.

but if we draw 1-1 at home to the swiss(our last game) and finish level on points with them only then it comes down to our goal difference -v- theirs

Guy:Incognito · 30-03-2005 9:43pm

knobbles wrote:

still i would have taken 1-0 at the start, group could easily involve goal difference

but if we draw 1-1 at home to the swiss(our last game) and finish level on points with them only then it comes down to our goal difference -v- theirs

Whos that directed at? cos thats what I was saying. It was irrelevant what score the swiss beat them. It's pur goal difference against them, not our goal difference against their goal difference.

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:43pm

its a result !!!!!

http://livescore.net/default.dll?page=home

he scored in the
82' [1 - 1] W. Badir

HAHHAHA:D

Nicce 1

I knew Israel had a draw in them. Everyone came down on Kerr to hard. Its not easy to go there and come away with the three points.

threebeards · 30-03-2005 9:46pm

All over 1-1

Jivin Turkey · 30-03-2005 9:47pm

FT 1-1 yes!

Although the Switz drawing would have been nicer, this makes it easier to swallow.

Dewey · 30-03-2005 9:50pm

yes thank god its over. 1-1. We have a big advantage over france and israel now. If we win are game in hand on the top 2 then we will be top of the group. I feel so much better now.

radiospan · 30-03-2005 9:51pm

Great result, amazing to see the French were timewasting at the end, making a pointless sub after 91, and Barthez taking ages for a goal kick in injury time also.

Will "La Trez" definately miss the Ireland game?

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:54pm

no harm but as I said. The other teams are muck in this group. Israel are a joke. France are a mess and the swiss are well organised at best.

knobbles · 30-03-2005 9:56pm

Stekelly wrote:

Whos that directed at? cos thats what I was saying. It was irrelevant what score the swiss beat them. It's pur goal difference against them, not our goal difference against their goal difference.

it may not be irrelevant, here goes...
under the circumstances above
(ie ireland 1-1 swiss and we finish level on points with them only)
- yes it does come to our goal diff' -v- theirs and as both games are 1-1 we are level...
it then goes to overall goal difference

...all sounds a bit far fetched but we're half way through the group now and our results have been identical to the swiss
- away draw to israel and france, home wins v cyprus and faroes, draw with each other

anyway, far too early in the group for the maths talk

thejollyrodger · 30-03-2005 9:59pm

concentrate on WINNING our games which we will !! We screwed up in Jersuleum and got away with it tonight. In June we have the oppurtunity to pull away from this group. We can win all our matches if we have the right mental attitute.

knobbles · 30-03-2005 10:04pm

next one on a sunny June day at home to Israel,
bring it on!!!

Guy:Incognito · 30-03-2005 10:06pm

I hated when they started messing with the rules, it should be down to plain old total goal difference like the good old days.

Michael Collins · 30-03-2005 10:53pm

knobbles wrote:

...yes it does come to our goal diff' -v- theirs and as both games are 1-1 we are level... it then goes to overall goal difference...

Well that's probably what SHOULD be the case but in fact if we're level with a team on points, and our goal difference with them is equal to theirs then it goes to the number of goals scored between us and said team...and only if that's equal does it go to good ol fashioned overall goal difference.

Ah yes, can't wait for the June match on a nice sunny day as knobbles said. Having all these home games has to put us in a damn good position. Especially when our two away games are Faroe Islands and Cyprus which hopefully should be straightforward enough. Could all come down to the Swiss game and some revenge would be nice...

eirebhoy · 30-03-2005 10:57pm

thejollyrodger wrote:

no harm but as I said. The other teams are muck in this group. Israel are a joke. France are a mess and the swiss are well organised at best.

AFAIK you don't have Setanta so wouldn't have seen Israel's game tonight or their game against Switzerland. They are a very good team. As I've said many times since Saturday, they gave us way too much respect and if they played like they did tonight and against the Swiss everyone would have been happy with a draw on Sunday morning.

I cheered that goal as much as I cheered Clinton's.

Great week in the end. Never been so happy to move from top of the group to 4th.

Badabing · 30-03-2005 10:58pm

Anyone know what the break is between the prem league finishing and our match against israel, will kerr bring the lads on a training camp or let them rest?

Pigman II · 31-03-2005 10:05am

I would have definetly traded a French win last night for a Swiss draw in the other game. Of the 3 teams sharing pole with us at the moment they are by far the one the concern me the most.

thejollyrodger · 31-03-2005 10:53am

If we dont go top this group and go through to Germany then there is no hope for Ireland and we deserve to miss out on the finals. Im fully confident that we will go through.

The players know what is expected of them. There arent any wasters in our best 11 like previous WCQ's. We beat Holland with the likes of Mc Ateer etc when they came here with a ferocity and totally dominated us.

Playing at home and away are completely different for us. Kerr set out in the beginning to not to lose our away matches. I would have taken 3 away draws at the start of this campaign and I am happy with it now. Israel showed last night that they are no easy team to turn over at home. Its going to be a different kettle of fish in Dublin were we can really get at a team for 90 minutes at a high tempo. I still dont think that they are any way decent, its just the way they play at home in such a narrow pitch with 5 across the back which makes it difficult there.

Switzerland performed very poorly IMO against a very weak team in Cyprus. Only scoring in the last few minutes to get the 3 points. They have an underdog mentality and dont seem to do well when they are favourites to win.

Im happy with the results last night, fair enough the Swiss could have drawn which would have been even better, but it was asking a lot for such a weak team to beat Switzerland.

This group is there for winning. We can beat everyone who comes to Dublin. I expect the 6 points away from home as well. We just need to belive and go about it the right way. I think France will get the second spot, Switzerland are very weak menality IMO and we got the upper hand of them in basel.

Israel -v- France

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