Some programmers scare me

Hobbes

I'm eating lunch in the local mall and heard from the other table.

P1: We can't call our function that it's a reserved word.
P2: Java is case sensitive how about we just it Proper case the name then?



Someone please tell me this is bad programming. It sounds bad to me.

Bard

Sounds like a bad lunch conversation to me... can these guys not get away from talking about programming for a while and just enjoy their lunch break ??? Sheesh!

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spod

Hey

It could've been a pair of XP practicers.
http://www.xprogramming.com/Practices/PracPairs.html

XP is an interesting development methodology I read about briefly, whilst reading the rather
excellent (so far) "thinking in c++" available in electronic form (and safely downloaded to my palm
pilot for bus etc. reading when I get sick of palm sim city) from http://www.bruceeckel.com/

Seriously though, Programming in pairs does sound like a good idea...

Hobbes

are you on drugs?

I'd never be able to work with someone watching me.

How is this an advantage over peer review or QA code review?

Excelsior

where'd u get palm sim city? will it work on a 3c? i'm getting one on august 7th. along with the sexy fold out keyboards. ahhh, technology urges sated... for another 3 months.

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Pretence

Originally posted by spod:
"thinking in c++"

Excellant book, indeed, downloaded it there a few weeks ago. It has an excellant approach to OO design which is the frame of mind you need to approach C++.


I dunno about programming in pairs, I'm not knocking it, I just never really did it.

ecksor

Originally posted by Hobbes:
I'm eating lunch in the local mall and heard from the other table.

P1: We can't call our function that it's a reserved word.
P2: Java is case sensitive how about we just it Proper case the name then?



Someone please tell me this is bad programming. It sounds bad to me.

I'd think it is, why not just come up with a name that isn't likely to confuse someone later?

spod

Originally posted by Excelsior:
where'd u get palm sim city? will it work

http://www.atelier.tm/palm/scc.html

or mail me when you get your palm

Shiminay

Imagine being the muppet that has to support that code after it's been released???

That's what I do from time to time (when I actually do some work).

We had one guy who was a ninja programmer, but NEVER commented anything. Because he was so good - he fixed everything that didn't work (which was quite a bit ).

Now I try to fix something that's gone wrong and there's loads of variables a, b and c popping up all over the gaff! People who do this should be killed at birth

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Hobbes

reminds me of a really old job. The person who bought the program I wrote was particully obnoxious (basically trying to screw me out of money) and his head developer was a muppet too.

They eventually agreed to pay for the source.

So I wrote program which removed all the nice names I gave for functions+varibles which changed them to "a,b,c,...,aa,ab,ac,...A" and so on.

Looked an absolute mess but compiled perfectly.

Trojan

Originally posted by Hobbes:
Looked an absolute mess but compiled perfectly

Very bold Hobbes!!

http://www.ioccc.org/

Al.

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spod

ouch!

Hobbes you bstard!

Reminds me of a story about Talliesin I heard.

He did a mad big javascript front page for our site when he was still working where I am now.

Monstorous was the word.

He had two versions.

the proper version with comments, well named variables, decent function names etc. and the production version which had single or double letter identifiers, no comments, no formatting and as little white space as possible to minimise download time.

Skimmed a couple of k off the download, but no one except talliesin could maintain it

I rememember helping a friend with a program she wrote in college aages ago. She was starving when she wrote it so every variable was something like burgers, chips, eatChips()etc. etc. Took ages to get my head around it. In the end we had to go through it and find and replace all the variable and function names with sensible ones

And then there's the old php class $boom = explode($dynamite);
Have to get that into every script


Oh, in a desperate attempt to stay on topic, according to the Official Java coding guidelines ( http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConvTOC.doc.html ) as well as any general identifier naming conventions for oop they're way off.

Firstly, never use case to differentiate identifiers.

According to the conventions Java methods should be verbs, in mixed case, with the first letter lowercase, and the the first letter of each internal word capitalised.

eg. run(); runFast(); getBackground();

Excelsior

thanks spod.

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Shiminay

Hobbes - you should be burnt at the stake for that!!! I love it

I'd do things like that here at work, only I know I'm the one who has to maintain it (the joys of being a Hell Desk Developer).

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Baz_

Thats some pretty bad **** boyos, tut tut.

Hobbes next time you here or see them muppets (if you ever will) give 'em a smack from me, ta.

Gavin

hey ! that sim city looks really cooll...
i still am playing subhunt on my visor

/me wanna good game

Gav

DublinWriter

Hobbes wrote: »

I'd never be able to work with someone watching me.

How is this an advantage over peer review or QA code review?

You get your typos fixed in real time.

jgh_

I'm glad the stuff I work on is not so trivial I spend my lunch hour pondering over the name of a method.

Graham

DublinWriter wrote: »

You get your typos fixed in real time.

Not that 'real time' given the previous post is almost 13 years old

yoyo

Excelsior wrote: »

where'd u get palm sim city? will it work on a 3c? i'm getting one on august 7th. along with the sexy fold out keyboards. ahhh, technology urges sated... for another 3 months.

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Lol I had a Palm IIIc all those years ago, nostalgic! :P

Nick

Logical_Bear

oldest zombie thread I've ever seen.EVER!!

jgh_

Logical_Bear wrote: »

oldest zombie thread I've ever seen.EVER!!

Holy smokes, I was wondering why everyone was talking about Palms lol.

Sparks

I think we can close this one safely