Chelsea could still break the 100 point mark.

Neil3030

Of course, they'd have to beat all of their remaining opponents, while still focusing on success in Europe, but it's a slight possibility.

Reckon that'd top Arsenal's unbeaten season?

Draupnir

No

Guy:Incognito

Anything is possible, but I seriously doubt they will. I reclon they'll win it in the next 4-5 games. they'll probably win the next 2 then the league will be more or less sewn up.Then they'll start to dop points here and there while resting players and the foot will be off the gas.

Slash/ED

Draupnir wrote:

No

Of course it would

finishing with a point more than Arsenal did last year would top that season.

segadreamcast

100 points would be good... I don't know if it'd be as big an accomplishment as Arsenal's unbeaten run though. It's difficult to compare them - they're hardly like-for-like, really comes down to what you place emphasis on: more consistencies with less losses or more victories with less consistencies.

Slash/ED

If you finish with more points than Arsenal did last season than clearly you were more consistently brilliant over the course of the season. The objective is to get as many points as you can, not avoid defeat. You could draw 38 games and get relegated, would that be a good season?

PHB

Its not about points.
United's point tally of 92 beat Arsenals unbeaten run, does that make it more special?
No, because going unbeaten is somethign special.

p.pete

As people are fond of often pointing out - the league tables don't lie. So if they got 100 points it certainly would surpass any achievement of 98, 99 or 92 points etc.

Bunch of begrudgers

kleefarr

Win 3 more games and it's all over.

Thanx 4 The Fish

Would have to disagree with you there p.pete, i think that the unbeaten season is something that will not be repeated for some long years to come. 100 points out of a possible 114 while an excellent achievement, would still allow a team to lose 4 games and have a couple of draws.

okidoki987

Man Utd: Champions previous season, NOT undefeated (points don't matter).
Arsenal: Champions last season, undefeated (points don't matter).
Chelsea: Champions this season, NOT undefeated (points don't matter).

As already pointed out, any team could draw all their games and get relegated. The BIG difference is Arsenal went undefeated last season in the Premership and WON the title. This can never be beaten, only matched.
Sure it can be matched with a higher number of points and this will be better but you can only remain undefeated once!
If you can remember back to 1992 when Arsenal won the title with George Graham, we only lost one game that season (Chelsea 2-1 Away, I think it was).

The gap between the top 4 clubs in the Premership and the rest is getting bigger and bigger and if it doesn't change, will lead to another "Scottish League" where the top teams keep beating the rest of the league and the top 4 teams battle it out every year.

p.pete

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote:

Would have to disagree with you there p.pete, i think that the unbeaten season is something that will not be repeated for some long years to come. 100 points out of a possible 114 while an excellent achievement, would still allow a team to lose 4 games and have a couple of draws.

You're entitled to be wrong If only for that match against Man City, what could have been...

TBH I think they deserve tremendous credit for their defence this season, only 11 let in so far and on course to beat Liverpools best season of 17 I think it was goals conceded.

PHB

Not saying its not an amazing achievement, but theres something special about going unbeaten.

Not losing in an entire year.

I tell ya, I think next season we're gona have three/four teams all beating the 100 mark.

thejollyrodger

getting to the 100 point mark would just show how crap the EPL is ! Apart from the top 4 teams the rest of the teams are very poor. Shelbourne could give a good run for money for most of those crap sides. I think next years EPL might prove very boring.

PHB

I think next years EPL will be incredibly tight.
Look at the run Chelsea United and Arsenal are on, don't forget about Liverpool with a decent squad next year.
Its going to be a win every single game scenario, its going to be nuts.

Guy:Incognito

thejollyrodger wrote:

Shelbourne could give a good run for money for most of those crap sides.

I think you're losing the run of youself now, Shels would struggle and maybe get a couple of draws a season in the PL.

Slash/ED

PHB wrote:

Not saying its not an amazing achievement, but theres something special about going unbeaten.

Not losing in an entire year.

I tell ya, I think next season we're gona have three/four teams all beating the 100 mark.

They lost to Chelsea, Boro, Man U and Kiev. I think this whole 'unbeaten run' is the most over rated achievement in football, it's a technicality. What would you rather in two games, win one and lose one or draw both? It's all about how much points you finish with. The team who finished with the most amount of points in the 20 team English top flight is the one who can say they had the best season. If after this season that's Chelsea, than that's Chelsea

PHB

Yeah, well I'm talking about just the premiership.
I think theres a thing about invincibility.
Nobody could beat them, nobody.
Chelsea have been beaten, they have on one day being worse than another team this year.
Last year, Arsenal were always at least on par or better than them. Nobody was ever better than them.
Thats something amazing.

I'm not saying that its not about the points in relation to how well you do, but special achievements aren't j ust about points

Gangsta

Then they also lost to Inter.

The unbeaten run is only related to the premiership which is an amazing achievement.

PHB wrote:

Last year, Arsenal were always at least on par or better than them. Nobody was ever better than them.
Thats something amazing.

Sums it up prefectly.

The Muppet

Going a season unbeaten was a wonderful achievement . Breaking the 100 point barrier would also be a wonderful achievemnt too. IMO the team with the highest points has had the best season . In theory Both could happen the same season i.e. a team could go unbeaten and get 95 points and be pipped to the titile by a team getting 100 points. Which would be the better achievement? For me it would be the title winners.

Slash/ED

PHB wrote:

Yeah, well I'm talking about just the premiership.
I think theres a thing about invincibility.
Nobody could beat them, nobody.
Chelsea have been beaten, they have on one day being worse than another team this year.
Last year, Arsenal were always at least on par or better than them. Nobody was ever better than them.
Thats something amazing.

I'm not saying that its not about the points in relation to how well you do, but special achievements aren't j ust about points

Simply not true, the difference is minimul. Take the one game Chelsea lost this season, a disputed penalty went against them. Last year Arsenal needed an even more disputed penalty v Portsmouth to salvage a draw, and of course, a last minute penalty miss in Old Trafford. They were hardly 'invincible' and you can't just disregard other competitions, they lost to three premiership clubs last season (Now in fairness, the Boro one was with their reserves).

Now, if they went unbeaten in all competitions, than fair enough. But if they finished on less points than Chelsea get this season, than Chelseas is the best achievement. Throw in a European throphy and the seasons on another planet to Arsenals last year. Like I said, would you rather win one and lose one or draw both?

PHB

I'd rather win both
But to anwser you question, I'd rather win one and lose won just from the point of view of points, but from team moral two draws might be better, I don't know I'm not a manager.

All I'm saying is to me, Chelsea getting above 100 points isn't as impressive as Arsenals unbeaten run.

sleepwalker

I think this whole 'unbeaten run' is the most over rated achievement in football, it's a technicality.

even the hardcore united fans are admitting it was a special achievment cmon just join in the arsenal praise for god sake and let the bitterness go

Slash/ED

Bitter? I'm not a Man U fan, I'd rather Arsenal won it than Man U, what is there to be bitter about for me?

okidoki987

When was the last time you EVER heard a MU fan saying Arsenal's achievement last year was superb?
All my mates are UTD fans and all I get all the time is
"Did you win the European Cup?"
"Greatest team EVER?"
etc, etc.

MrJoeSoap

PHB wrote:

I think next season we're gona have three/four teams all beating the 100 mark.

Well considering there are 114 points on offer for each team, and each team finishing in the top 4 would have to have played the other 3 of the top 4, someone will have to have dropped points.

What your statement roughly implies is that the top 3/4 teams will not lose to anyone below the top 4, at all.

You'd get some good odds on that in a bookies, and you'd be fairly disappointed 2 weeks into the season.

PHB

Thats the thing, I think its gona be a season like that.
Its going to be a constant title race from the start.
Utd's run would normally win the league but Chelsea have bettered it.
Its gona be a cup final every game from the start, and I think its gona be incredibly tight.
granted I doubt 3/4 teams will actually break the hundred, but they are all gona come close I think.

Guy:Incognito

PHB wrote:

Utd's run would normally win the league but Chelsea have bettered it.
.

It may have escaped your notice but Utd are 3rd.

okidoki987

And let's hope they finish third too!

RuggieBear

Would any of the past teams of greatness (eg. Liverpool in 70s/80s) have broken the 100pts barrier if there had been 3pts for a win?