Anyone who is on 1mb but should be on 2mb, post here

dubmick

pH wrote:

Tried Heanet, I'm getting a steady 55.0 - 58.0 K/BS. A little better than the old 512 service.

ADSL Link 	Downstream 	Upstream
Connection Speed 	2048 kbps 	128 kbps
Line Attenuation 	32 db 	19 db
Noise Margin 	31 db 	31 db

Exact same for me. Was getting better speeds last night. I'm on Eircom Plus.

kleefarr

Just tried that HEANET download and got 213KB/sec.
I'm on IOL BB in Kilkenny.

Basq

monomaniac wrote:

Ok if you telnet 192.168.1.254 then the command

show dsl

gives line attenuation.

Mine is 53.11 Downstream and 31.0dB Upstream. So i guess this means I'm may have a problem with 2048.

Cheers for that monomaniac.

Mine is worse:

Downstream: 43.56
Upstream: 27.00dB

Maddzy

I should be up to 1Mb and looks like I'm nearly there: http://www.irishisptest.com/bandtest/results.php?kbps=863.3&downloadtime=10.079&KB=1062.125&recorded=1

Shows 863.3 kb/s

I downloaded a file from an American server at a steady 85kb/s a few minutes ago, so I'm happy enough.

In Glasnevan, btw, dunno what the nearest exchange is...

Maddzy

lmao irishiptest.com is so easy to fool http://www.irishisptest.com/bandtest/results.php?kbps=1369100&downloadtime=10.079&KB=1062.125&recorded=1

diarmo

Bt has set standard for line attenuation and possible speeds you will get.
They are as follows

From memory(so dont take it as 100% correct)

Line Attenuation is a resistance.
Too hight and DSL becomes unstable.

Line attenuation above 60 db will get you a fail in your DSL test for 512k(mabye 1024 cant remember).
If you want 2048 then your line meeds to be about 45 db or lower.

These are for BT lines in the UK and as we use similar technology to them then they are probable implemented here also.

For transmission purposes the UK mainly use PPPoA whereas we use PPPoE....so we have a higher tolerance to errors but get a slightly reduced speed...(blame eircom for their sh!tty lines)

When BT rolled out their upgrades they said that a lot of people wont reach 2048(60% I think!) but they will try their best but if all else fails then they will get 1024.
From what Im reading here if you failed 2048k tests then you were bumped down to 1024k.

My line for comparison is:
relative capacity occupation: 19%
noise margin downstream: 44.5 db
output power upstream: 12.5 dbm
attenuation downstream: 14.5 db

And I have 2048 with no probs and was getting 210-215KBytes/s from a microsoft server(will try out heatnet later).

I think we need to create tutorials on completing diagnostics on peoples DSL lines for modem manufacturers used here and sticky it.

JNive

doing it like that, then yeah lol.
http://www.irishisptest.com/bandtest/results.php?kbps=106784080&downloadtime=10.079&KB=1062.125&recorded=1

aint too hard there :-)

dlofnep

It's 60db for 1meg lines. Not 512.

Also..

Downstream: 43.56
Upstream: 27.00dB

There is nothing wrong with that.. It's not worse, infact it's lower than the previous guy. The lower the local/remote attentuation, the better.

Basq

dlofnep wrote:

There is nothing wrong with that.. It's not worse, infact it's lower than the previous guy. The lower the local/remote attentuation, the better.

Ah right... got confused with that! Cheers for the clarification!

Still feckin' screwed with a downstream speed of 1312 (ironically enough, my birthday - December 13th) and a top download speed of about 56KB! :mad:

diarmo

monomaniac

I think 53 db attenuation is too high for 2048k
Im afraid with current technology you will never get any faster than 1mbit/s unless you get a new line or mabye ADSL2/2+ comes out.

monomaniac

Cheers for the info diarmo. Planning on upgrading to Smart when they are available.

Do you think then that line attentuation is related to the fact that my download speeds have halved since the upgrade? Not seeing any faster than 20-30kb/s.

OfflerCrocGod

diarmo wrote:

as a level of over 60 will not allow 1024k and above 45 will make if difficult for 2048k

ADSL Link Speed 2048 kbps 128 kbps
SNR 2.5 dB 0.0 dB
ATEN 52 dB 31 dB

I'm getting ~205k dowload speeds from my line with aten of 52 are you certain 45 is the limit?

Giblet

Here's my stats:

I'm on 1024/128 according to the router, im on the trial period with IOLBB PLUS.

Relative Capacity Occupation: 11%
Noise Margin Downstream: 45.5dB
Output power Upstream: 2dB
Attenutation Downstream : 17.5 dB


I live right beside my exchange, and I've always had good lines.

IS ANYONE STILL ON THE TRIAL PERIOD AND HAVE 2MB!!!

Tusky

Im IOL plus.

Should be 2mb but seem to be only 1mb however that file is downloading at a steady 213 kb/sec.

diarmo

OfflerCrocGod wrote:

ADSL Link Speed 2048 kbps 128 kbps
SNR 2.5 dB 0.0 dB
ATEN 52 dB 31 dB

I'm getting ~205k dowload speeds from my line with aten of 52 are you certain 45 is the limit?

From what I was reading, BT had set limits that over ~45-46 db attenuation they would not allow 2mbit on it.

Mabye it could be the slightly diferent transmission system (UK is mostly PPPoA which has lower data integrity checking and slighty higher speeds) while we use PPPoE.

If you could find more accurate info or track down a DSL technician for eircom limits I would be v.happy indeed.

You must remember thought that the DSL testing by eircom is FAR stricter than BT...which means that eircom DSL customers are going to be far more successfull than BT customers.

N.B.
When I say eircom I refer to their bitstream products for ISP's and the same for references to BT.

Redshift

I'm getting the very low and unstable download speeds on a 3Mbit connection
My line data is as follows
Eircom> wan adsl linedata near

relative capacity occupation: 38%
noise margin downstream: 23.5 db
output power upstream: 0.5 dbm
attenuation downstream: 33.0 db

I logged a fault with DSL support who said eircom are aware of the problem and are working on it, he said it should be full speed by tomorrow.

monomaniac

Redshift wrote:

I'm getting the very low and unstable download speeds on a 3Mbit connection

I logged a fault with DSL support who said eircom are aware of the problem and are working on it, he said it should be full speed by tomorrow.

Fantastic - not gonna worry bout this till tomorrow then.

Basq

Redshift wrote:

II logged a fault with DSL support who said eircom are aware of the problem and are working on it, he said it should be full speed by tomorrow.

Brillant news Redshift!

Thanks for that!

bizmark

Im getting 1.5 meg out of my 2 meg line not to bad i suppose

Tusky

bizmark wrote:

Im getting 1.5 meg out of my 2 meg line not to bad i suppose

same.

Jumpy

Guys, just to confirm, IOLBB/EsatBT are not officially upgraded until the 4th.
I called tech supp, and they advised wait until the official date to re-test.
I know its bitstream and all that, but would advise patience,

My router is telling me 1024 even though I am Broadband Plus, so if it isnt fixed I will ask questions but I will wait until tomorrow.

Here are my Stats, can anyone tell me if this is a good connection?

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 1024 kbps 128 kbps
Line Attenuation 12 db 4 db
Noise Margin 31 db 29 db

diarmo

This might be helpfull:

Q: Guideline for noise margin/attenuation (#10179)

 

      A: Signal to Noise (SNR):

 

          5db or below =bad, no sync/intermittent sync

          8db-13db = average - and no sync issues

          14db-22db = very good

          23db-28db = excellent

          29db-35db = rare, can throw a rock at co/remote

 

      Line attenuation

 

          teens = rare, great copper lines, close to   

                  C.O./Remote

          20-30 = excellent

          30-40 = very good

          40-60 = average

          60-65 = poor

          65 and above will have issues

flamegrill

ADSL Link Speed 2048 kbps 128 kbps
SNR 6.5 dB 0.0 dB
ATEN 30 dB 18 dB


going like the clappers ...

netsource dsl - plus package ..

VeVeX

I too am on the IOLPlus package and reciving a 1meg connection. But as has been said the upgrade isnt official untill tomorrow.

Its definitly not a connection problem luckily.

Noise Margin - U/S 29db D/S 33.5db
Attenuation - U/S 11db D/S 14db

Valentia

Regardless if the upgrade is not until tomorrow serious questions need to be asked now about why someone on a plus package is not upgraded to 2Mb.

I too am on the IOLPlus package and reciving a 1meg connection.

The most obvious reason, as some have pointed out, is that your provider was charging you premium prices for a product that they are getting at a standard wholesale prices. If this is happening this is a very serious situation. I'm not saying it is but it is a possibility. Are you IOL users on ESat enabled exchanges or are ESat buying the wholsale product from Eircom?

I imagine everyone on a 24:1 contention were switched automatically to the 2Mb package. If this didn't happen well there is a strong indication that you were on the 48:1 setup but paying for the 24:1. Saying that things will be sorted by the 4th sounds like a way out for the provider. There are a worrying number of IOL users with this problem.

I'm with UTV and haven't seen any discrepancies yet, apart from Sully who just doesn't seem to understand what's going on or is just being silly.

leeroybrown

Valentia wrote:

I'm with UTV and haven't seen any discrepancies yet, apart from Sully who just doesn't seem to understand what's going on or is just being silly.

I'm with UTV (Clicksilver Plus) and am currently only upgraded to 1024/128.

Attenuation: 38dB / 23dB
SNR: 25dB / 24dB

I'll test it again when I get home from work tomorrow and start looking into it if it hasn't sorted itself out by then.

Basq

ATTENTION: Everyone who's having problems on Eircom with their speed... please try and following and report back..

(1) Put 192.168.1.254 in your address bar
(2) Click on 'Expert Mode' in the sidebar
(3) Click OK when prompted
(4) Click 'Restart' in the top right hand corner
(5) Wait a minute or two.. it will be unresponsive.
(6) After it resumes, check your downstream.

Has your downstream improved? And if not.. ignore it and now try downloading this: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/iso/FC3-i386-disc4.iso

Worked for me and a couple of other people. Best of luck!

Jumpy

diarmo wrote:

This might be helpfull:

Q: Guideline for noise margin/attenuation (#10179)

 

      A: Signal to Noise (SNR):

 

          5db or below =bad, no sync/intermittent sync

          8db-13db = average - and no sync issues

          14db-22db = very good

          23db-28db = excellent

          29db-35db = rare, can throw a rock at co/remote

 

      Line attenuation

 

          teens = rare, great copper lines, close to   

                  C.O./Remote

          20-30 = excellent

          30-40 = very good

          40-60 = average

          60-65 = poor

          65 and above will have issues

Wow, rare on both counts. And yes, I can throw a rock at the exchange from here.

So there shouldnt be any issues when EsatBT tells me there isnt any on their end.

Will update tomorrow.

diarmo

leeroybrown wrote:

I'm with UTV (Clicksilver Plus) and am currently only upgraded to 1024/128.

Attenuation: 38dB / 23dB
SNR: 25dB / 24dB

I'll test it again when I get home from work tomorrow and start looking into it if it hasn't sorted itself out by then.

That data is excellent.

I think you are being screwed somewhere by UTV as the above should easily give you a 2mbit connection.

Random

Am on Netsource Origin Plus:

1.63 Mbps
208.4 KB/sec.

I should be on 2Mbit I guess, but it's close enough