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Who is the best soccer analysis or commentator?

  • 13-04-2005 2:21pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭


    Mark Lawrenson gets my vote. he's easy to listen to, and gives a bit of wit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    No one can touch, or even come close to the verbal utterings of the great man. Alas, he is no longer a pundit, he sadly disappeared from our screens at the outset of the current eircom League season.

    Ladies and gentlemen I give you the laureat of the linguists.

    Damien "Rico" Richardson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Who is the best soccer analysis or commentator?
    One things for sure, he's not Irish. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭RE*AC*TOR


    eirebhoy wrote:
    One things for sure, he's not Irish. :)
    C'mon! George hamilton!!!

    It's a corner... is the referee pointing to the penalty spot??... no, its a throw.... haltime its is then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    John Giles is the best, with Liam Brady not far behind. And love him or hate him, Dunphy is the most entertaining. So RTE have by miles the best team.

    I dont really like Lawrenson - seems to have some kinda chip on his shoulder, and as a duo I think himself and Tosh are dreadfully boring. I think Lawro plays to the audience too much as well. I think he believes that Irish viewers want to hear criticism and the English want to hear praise, so thats what he gives them depending on what channel he's on.

    Hansen used to be the best, but I think now is in a comfort zone he's not as good as he used to be - still probably the best across the water - except when the useless Schmeichel is with him, he brings Hansen down to his level of analysis!

    I think Lineker is a very good presenter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    BBC 5Live's Alan Green, best there has been in years, always call it stright down the line, always entertaining and funny at times but is very passionate about the game.


    Tosh is a boring fat f**k
    Lawro sucks balls and has a massive problem talking as he is busy blowing Lampards d**k all the time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Strachan is the best. He's the only one who actually talks about what we've just been watching as though he's actually a football man rather than 'a presenter'

    Compare him to almost every other analysist/ex-pro out there who serve up their 'opinions' as a main course of cliches and a side order of soundbites

    Hansen was good back when he started but he's too long out of the game at this stage to actually know what he's talking about. There's more to football in 2005 than 'one up one back' and even I've spotted that much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭p.pete


    Royal Nugent, I don't think I need (or am capable of) to back that one up...


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Best studio analysis team is RTE's Giles, Dunphy and Brady by far. Ray Houghton, Denis Irwin and Trevor Steven are very good too I must say. All commentators are sh1t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    I presume people only watch RTE's analysis for the comedy value? They haven't got a clue. They may know things like attack is the best form of defence and other stuff you'd know from being in the game so long but they could hardly name the starting 11 of a premiership team outside the top 4/5. I mean Jonny Giles didn't know who Santini was when asked what he thought of Spurs appointing him. Tervor Steven is good though, the only one on RTE that actually is.

    Got to agree with Gordon Strachan too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    Best studio analysis team is RTE's Giles, Dunphy and Brady by far. Ray Houghton, Denis Irwin and Trevor Steven are very good too I must say. All commentators are sh1t.

    You got to be ****ting me, Houghton is rubbish, Steven is anti-Liverpool always. Denis is great though. And I agree the other three are value for money.

    Lawro is a bit annoying "Tell you what Stubbsy" "Tell you what Manish" but Hansen has become crap, he just loves Rooney and England. Strachen is good but you can never take him seriously.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Martin Tyler was always a very good commentator I though, though I haven't heard him in a long while. I'd also pick Strachan as one of the better studio pundits and quite like Adrian Chiles' straightforward style of presenting. Can't stand Lawrenson, Giles knows a fair bit about the game itself but bugger all about those who play it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Best Commentator - Tom Tyrell Today fm, Best analyst - Charlie Nicholas Sky Sports,Best sports writer- Oliver Holt Daily Mirror


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Alan Green, Gordan Strachan and Niall Quinn. Quinn's been especially good since starting at Sky Sports.

    Can't believe someone mention Lawrenson though. My left arse cheek knows more about football than he does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭wheres me jumpa


    giles brady and dunphy are class, in particular giles. ray houghton should be shot! not a fan of mark lawro, he tries to be funny too much.

    and as for ronnie whelan, he was asked to summarise the first half of the milan derby and he literally when through it minute by minute!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The radio guys on FiveLive are easily the best as they can't sit back as the pictures do the work for them. I think Giles is a good pundit but clearly reaching the point of forgetting names/places/dates etc! Trevor Stevens - who? ;) One fella I thought was a pretty good FiveLive pundit was er Stan Collymore (no really) but then he got caught doing somthing in a car park and has'nt been heard since.



    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    Alan Green, Gordan Strachan and Niall Quinn. Quinn's been especially good since starting at Sky Sports.

    Can't believe someone mention Lawrenson though. My left arse cheek knows more about football than he does.

    QUINN!? Quinn is hopeless, him commentatying will influence me not to watch a game. He's the nicest guy on the planet which is fine but makes for awful punditry, he's never seen a bad player or peice of play, everythings wonderful and dandy in the world of Quinny. He also talks far too much as co commentator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭abccormac


    Giles, Brady, Dunphy are always worth listening to, I pesonally can't stand lawrenson, and Toshack. Reeeel Madrid, Joooooventus you'd think after managing abroad for so long Toshack would have a vague idea of how to pronounce the names of two of the top european teams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    John Giles is the best, with Liam Brady not far behind. And love him or hate him, Dunphy is the most entertaining. So RTE have by miles the best team..

    Dunphy is great because he says what hes thinking, if he thinks a player is ****e he'll say he's ****e (or use the stongest words possible that dont result in sacking) He doesnt go in for all this political crap. A player isnt automatically great because he's the latest wonderboy and dunphy will say it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    i used to like peter brackley and ray wilkins on channel 4, dont think they still do it now though :confused:


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,048 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Badabing wrote:
    Best Commentator - Tom Tyrell Today fm, Best analyst - Charlie Nicholas Sky Sports,Best sports writer- Oliver Holt Daily Mirror

    Not a bad selection there m8. I also think alot of Ian Darke


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    Gordon Strachan, Ray Wilkens, and I don't think Ray Houghton is too bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    seansouth wrote:
    No one can touch, or even come close to the verbal utterings of the great man. Alas, he is no longer a pundit, he sadly disappeared from our screens at the outset of the current eircom League season.

    Ladies and gentlemen I give you the laureat of the linguists.

    Damien "Rico" Richardson.
    your are joking right? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,322 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Liam Brady is the shrewdest pundit around
    He is extremely good at analysing teams and predicting scores
    Alan Hansen was good but has degenerated into a farce as he thinks everything is 'great'.
    I prefer commentators who call a spade a spade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    jonny68 wrote:
    your are joking right? :eek:
    A quite intelligent being you appear to be, especially in detecting the jocular intentions in my renderings. Indeed I was attempting humour, nay fecetiousness, in my suggestion of Damien Richardson as the most able orator of our association football television screenings.

    (Yes, I was joking)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭Davey Devil


    Alan Green, Gordan Strachan and Niall Quinn. Quinn's been especially good since starting at Sky Sports.

    Can't believe someone mention Lawrenson though. My left arse cheek knows more about football than he does.

    You having a laugh. Quinn is pants. All he says is, "He's done ever so well". In the Ireland games he constantly goes on about how Ireland aren't a kick and rush team anymore, well done Quinner very shrew welcome to the new millenium.

    Also a few shouts for Lawrenson, personally can't stand the guy. I've said it before, the best team has to be La Liga coverage on Sky. Gerry Armstrong is a legend and great back up in the studio from Guillem Balague. Also over on Eurosport's Seria A coverage you can't beat James Richardson as a presenter. He's the best there is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭tibor


    Strachan is the best by a longshot, imo.
    The Strachan View segments on Match of the Day 2 are always excellent.

    How about the worst?
    Peter Schmeichel gets my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭tibor


    Liam Brady is the shrewdest pundit around
    He is extremely good at analysing teams and predicting scores

    Except when Liverpool are playing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Jamie Redknapp and Mark Bright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Ones I like:
    Commentators:
    Alan Green (Five Live), Mike Ingham (Five Live), Jon Champion (ITV), Peter Jones (Five Live), Martin Tyler (Sky Sports)

    Analysts/Co-commentators:

    Martin O'Neill (when he did BBC TV), Jimmy Armfield (Five Live), Gerry Armstrong (Sky Sports), Gordon Strachan (BBC TV), Graeme Souness (Sky Sports before the Newcastle job)

    Presenters:

    Gary Lineker (BBC TV), Stephen Cullinane (TV3), Adrian Chiles (BBC TV)

    I don't have much time for the rest. I must admit I particularly dislike Terry Venables, Alan Hansen, Graham Taylor, Trevor Welch, Andy Gray and Conor McNamara.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭thejollyrodger


    I have to admit, RTE have the best commentators. Giles is best on the telly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭threebeards


    For me, Dunphy is a legend. No nonsense straight talking from him always. As a co-commentator/analyst, Jim Beglin always sounds like he's on the verge of topping himself. I used love Ron Atkinson and his Atkinsonisms :D . I think the best commentator is (as was already mentioned) Tom Tyrell on Today FM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Dunphy is trys too hard to be controversial.

    Alan Greene is another one. He loves himself. Is he a commentator or an analyser?

    I dont think Liam Brady is great either. Only 3 years ago he stated that DAmien Duff is the kind of player you bring on for the last 20 minutes of a match. :rolleyes:

    The vast majority are poor enough across the board.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    seansouth wrote:
    A quite intelligent being you appear to be, especially in detecting the jocular intentions in my renderings. Indeed I was attempting humour, nay fecetiousness, in my suggestion of Damien Richardson as the most able orator of our association football television screenings.

    (Yes, I was joking)
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Megatron


    Motty , is the best plain and simple. When him and lorrie are doing the commentatin it coudl be a crap match but they always keep you entertained =).

    I HATE jim I used to play for liverpool .... man i will usualy watch the match on another channel if possable :mad:

    but the worst for me is that twat peter Reid ... all because he went mental during Euro and started mouthing out crap like "Rooney , he's better than Pele" ..... peter you got somethign on your chin mate .. yeah it's bull****


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    OMG I can't stand Motty. Be realistic Motson!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭thejollyrodger


    Motson used to be good until he got a high opinion of himself or something and started to milk the puns to death. He is past his best and I cant stand him now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I like the guy who commentates with Andy Grey, I don't know his name, but I think hes good.

    I also like Linekear, I think hes good.

    I like it when they get people on who explain to me things about how playesr could be better. Sometimes Grey does it, although I don't like him, he is annoying.

    I think the Spanish expert guy that Sky has is pretty ****ing great too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭Horsefumbler


    As analysts go I actually really like dunphy. It's quite refreshing to hear such brutally honest opinions on things and I also tend to agree with a lot of what he says. A lot of other analysts tend be ass kissers a bit. The three guys on the rte panel are all good actually I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,982 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    The best presenting , commentating and analysing team in football (IMHO)

    : presenter: James Richardson

    analists: Gordon Strachan , Guillem Ballague

    Commentators: Kevin Keatings , and.......Gerry Armstrong(I like him although many hate him so , stick in Gray or whoever)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭sleepwalker


    in terms of radio - alan green and in general radio five live have that department wrapped up

    tv wise - giles, dunphy and brady are by far the most entertaining in terms of pundit teams. the motd 2 team are prety good aswell especially strachan

    co-commenatator - andy gray whether you agree with him or not at least he injects excitement into the bloody thing.

    commentator - martin tyler before this season where he went completley off his head and began to only commentate when something exciting was happening the rest of the time he would ramble out trivia and five minute long stories about god what knows

    oh and how in the love of god did john tosack ever get a job on tv ? possibly the most boring man alive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    for commentator
    Martin Tyler (Sky Sports)

    for pundit
    Gordon Strachan

    hatred goes to
    Trevor Welsh (he is fupping useless)
    that guy commentating on the Bayern v Chelsea match on ITV (appaling)
    Niall Quinn (not good at all)


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