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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    DONT fire the thing that destroys all the cities on the planet.

    Apparently you "Break the galactic code" and your friends dont like you anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Destroy them!

    Listen to this man.
    Crush them, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Listen to this man.
    Crush them, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!

    Not going to happen. In space no one hears you scream.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭tba


    Not going to happen. In space no one hears you scream.
    you just need to buy the attachment for your ufo that transmits sound through a vacuum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    Huh, when I got to the centre I just got a pretty 3d model of the galactic core.

    If you scroll with your mouse wheel like when you're desending down into a planet, it brings you into it.

    kinda like the Wormholes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭TomCo


    Listen to this man.
    Crush them, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!

    We need Conan in space.

    WE NEED THIS NOW!


  • Moderators Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭Azza


    Oh dears its getting worse on the DRM front for Spore.

    This is also a very stupid decision. The 3 activations was bad enough but this is a double whammy to legit customers.

    http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54704


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Grrr, still bloody waiting for my copy... Have had a serious amount of post go missing recently, thought that paying extra for signed for first class delivery would have gotten around that, but evidently not!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Azza wrote: »
    Oh dears its getting worse on the DRM front for Spore.

    This is also a very stupid decision. The 3 activations was bad enough but this is a double whammy to legit customers.

    http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54704

    Oh wow that's a pretty big kick in the nuts for say.... A parent who bought it for their kids etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Oh wow that's a pretty big kick in the nuts for say.... A parent who bought it for their kids etc.

    Yes, say the parent creates an adult account that can view all content and then wants their kid to play.

    This opens a can of worms that could potentially lead to children viewing c*ck shaped creatures.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    brim4brim wrote: »
    Yes, say the parent creates an adult account that can view all content and then wants their kid to play.

    This opens a can of worms that could potentially lead to children viewing c*ck shaped creatures.

    sporn is a hazard any splayer must face


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    do you have to buy the game to get it to work online


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    MooseJam wrote: »
    do you have to buy the game to get it to work online

    yeah all the keygen keys are black listed


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭The Gnome


    Here...

    Arguably more interesting than the final result.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭corblimey


    Dagnammit, I only wanted to play with the creature creator for half an hour this evening. That was at 7.20 and I've only just stopped now. This game sucks up far too much time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    corblimey wrote: »
    Dagnammit, I only wanted to play with the creature creator for half an hour this evening. That was at 7.20 and I've only just stopped now. This game sucks up far too much time.

    I know what you mean. I still haven't completed space stage because I keep going back and making new creatures. Way too addictive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Finally gotten to the Space stage.

    Man this game, for all it's hype is nothing but a dumbed down (and I mean really dumbed down) 5 in 1 game with the first 4 sections being drivel and the final bit being nothing more than a vastly inferior Gal Civ 2 clone.

    They've surely tried to make this game appeal to so many people to maximise sales ala Sims style that it could be played by a 1 year old and it suffers horribly as a result.

    It's simplistic, it's repetitive, it's repetitive, it's bleeding repetitive and childish and bleh.


    So so so so so much potential has gone to waste here it's almost ****ing criminal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Spore is fantastic.
    The rest of you are either dead inside or insane, there is no other rational explaination for it.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Spore is fantastic.
    The rest of you are either dead inside or insane, there is no other rational explaination for it.

    I've come to the conclusion that it's a very slick, very polished but shallow game. The Cell stage is fun as a kind of arcade game, the creature stage is just plain repetitive. The civ stages are just a bad RTS and the space stage is just a bit crap. To prove it myself I fired up Sins of a Solar Empire again with the latest patch. Now that's a brilliant game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    Maximilian wrote: »
    I've come to the conclusion that it's a very slick, very polished but shallow game. The Cell stage is fun as a kind of arcade game, the creature stage is just plain repetitive. The civ stages are just a bad RTS and the space stage is just a bit crap. To prove it myself I fired up Sins of a Solar Empire again with the latest patch. Now that's a brilliant game.
    amen!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Maximilian wrote: »
    I've come to the conclusion that it's a very slick, very polished but shallow game. The Cell stage is fun as a kind of arcade game, the creature stage is just plain repetitive. The civ stages are just a bad RTS and the space stage is just a bit crap. To prove it myself I fired up Sins of a Solar Empire again with the latest patch. Now that's a brilliant game.

    Provided they've actually fixed the missile frigate so spamming them doesn't equal instant victory. Have they? Because that ruined the vanilla version.


    Also, you've missed the point by a thousand miles. Spore isn't meant to be Populous + Civ + Sins all in one game. If you're expecting that of course you're going to be disapointed.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzovision


    So true!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Also, you've missed the point by a thousand miles. Spore isn't meant to be Populous + Civ + Sins all in one game. If you're expecting that of course you're going to be disapointed.

    Then what is it supposed to be cos the sum of it parts equals a crap game in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Then what is it supposed to be cos the sum of it parts equals a crap game in my opinion.

    to repost from a few pages back
    Me wrote:
    I think you've kinda hit on something there. I think alot of people did what you did and saw a Populus like phase, a Civ like phase and a Sins like phase and assumed that they'd be getting these three huge games rolled into one.

    I don't think spore was ever really meant to be that game, i mean we're talking about the man who has most recently given us the Sims and the Sims2, it was kinda signposted just how much 'depth' was going to be in this.

    I get the feeling spore was designed to be something you play with as opposed to play against (if that makes any sense). Making a creature of your own and seeing other peoples crazy creations is the best part of the game. The early stages serve mostly as a tutorial for romping around in the universe later on where you get to see how those choices you made early on have panned out.

    I'm loving it, i just see it as a toybox i can go mental with and the community parts are fantastic (spore-casts, uploading to youtube, various exporters)
    I have games like Civ, populous and Sins already, spore isn't them, it's something different.
    I don't think i'll be playing this in a years time, but i'm happy with it for the forseeable future.

    So in short, the fun is making creatures/buildings whatever and being creative with the tools given. Some of the stuff i've seen online has been amazing, the mega maid (spaceballs), a giant flying brain (futurama), starbug (Red Dwarf) and some crazy creatures, the best being a carebear. You havn't witnessed terror untill these things turn up and unleash hell.

    If i were to compare spore to something, it'd be Youtube. It's a way for people to share their creations with eachother and the creativity of some of the people out there impresses me no end. And i like that. It's more appealing to me than the populous & Civ & Sins hybrid everyone else wants. As i said earlier, i have these games and they do their own thing very well. Why would i want to buy a game that is just more of the same?

    I know it's not clicking with alot of people, they want something different to what spore actually is, but i think that's their failing, not the games.
    You can't punish the game for living up to expectations you invented thanks to your insane imagination.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    Provided they've actually fixed the missile frigate so spamming them doesn't equal instant victory. Have they? Because that ruined the vanilla version.


    Also, you've missed the point by a thousand miles. Spore isn't meant to be Populous + Civ + Sins all in one game. If you're expecting that of course you're going to be disapointed.

    Re. Sins - I don't know but the new beta patch changes a vast amount of stuff balance-wise. I've no doubt that issue is fixed now. AI seems beefed up too.

    Re. Spore - I don't think anyone has missed the point. Sure, its not populous + sins etc. but when those games are so vastly superior to any part of Spore, then why bother with Spore? Just because they are all in the same game? Too warioware for my taste.

    Look, you like it and good for you but I think its massive disappointment and ill-conceived. I'm not alone either. It really is a game you eitehr love or hate, more than any in recent memory. I cannot fathom how some people really love this, anymore than those people cannot fathom how the rest hate it.

    edit: reading a few other posts - it seems the creature creator is the most loved part. What's up with that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    Aww, I was really looking forward to spore but this thread has now put me in two minds whether I'll buy it or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Maximilian wrote: »
    edit: reading a few other posts - it seems the creature creator is the most loved part. What's up with that?

    That's my feeling. The creator is cool but what's the put of having these tools that let your mind run riot and then get placed in a game enviroment that basically sucks or that, regardless of my creature having 50 arms, once I get to the main game (space) it's unimportant? Or having a spacehip that looks like a hoover cos it does basically the same as someones ship that looks like a toaster....

    So I just got attacked by carebears or darth vader lookalikes?? They look fantastic and kudos for the person who invented them but the underlying game is just cutesy fluff, 'by the numbers' game.

    There is only faux depth to Spore imo so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Phototoxin


    I must admit having played it for about 2 days when i got it I've not touched it since. Guild Wars is more appealing and CS:S. The creature creator is fun, I dont know how they managed to spend so much time and money on it and sure as **** I wont be buying and EAxtra EAxpansions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    I think its fun.

    it may not have the depth of most/any modern RTS game but that is kind of the point is to keep it simple so anyone can enjoy it.

    Personally though I wouldn't view people making the brain from Futurama as their creature as creative. It isn't really, the person that makes something new is creative, they are just mimicking their favourite show, not very creative although not necessarily easy to do.

    I think its a bit of a fad and sure as hell won't take on the Sims for popularity. I think a Spore 2 could just build on this to add more depth though. Its not a very open game despite it trying to appear as one. You don't have a lot of decisions to make and you can't make a big sea monster and not go into space which I was kind of expecting to be able to do. Would have been fun :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭corblimey


    I suspect (and call me cynical) but EA and Wright are going to keep releasing nicey pricey expansion packs for this one until Armageddon. And each one will make some part of the 5 mini games a whole lot better, for example, add better space trading, add better rts features to the tribal stage, etc. Sims 2 as a standalone game is kinda sucky, but add in the 30 or so expansion packs and you have a completely different game (which is also kinda sucky imho ;)). I'd say that's the plan going forward.

    As someone says above, it just makes no sense to have this creator that does all these wonderful things when those things are then rendered pointless in the space stage. You develop this affinity for the creature you've watched evolve and then boom, you're in a spaceship and it's all irrelevant.

    ETA: Had a wonderful moment last night in Creature, when one of my previous war-like creations who had somehow mutated to be over 20 feet tall came bumbling along into my camp and kicked the snot out of my new non-warlike creation. Lovely.


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