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Ps3 and Xbox 360
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jesus_thats_gre wrote:When the PS2 launched it didn't even take advantage of DVDs as the storage medium for the first handful of games and nearly all the games worth mentioning were out and out sequels. The DVD point is not big deal in itself admitedly but its sort of significant because every launch title was basically a 3rd or 4th sequel of thr PS1 launch games, i.e. the same game with improved textures.
Launch title being the important word there, PS2 games have come on alot dispite the early ones being lacking(e.g. GTA:SA is nothing like GTA1/2)
And as far as having a successfull title goes fancy textures make up a huge part of it, because you can put that on tv/posters etc...
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BloodBath wrote:You base that on what exactly?
BloodBath
photo's it seems
god bless him!!
Will be buying the Xbox at launch assuming the launch titles rumoured are remotely correct.0 -
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Patricide wrote:I had both an x-box and a ps2 and to be honest i found them both good but nowhere as good as the old ps1 (didnt like th n64 cept goldeneye) and then again the ps1 wasnt as good as the old megadrive or snes although it came very close.
The problem with the ps2 and the x box was the fact that most games on the consols were sequels with no origionality i mean i can remember playing the first tekken or tomb raider and been blown away saying it was something totally new but with the ps2 it was like yup done that in the last game, done that one too.
Another problem was that the few totaly great games didnt get the same attention that beig games like ico or to a lesser extent the first onimusha which are 2 brilliant games.
I used to be a complete hardcore gamer spending hours and hours and hours at video games a day but after the ps2/ x-box era games just got boring and were being sold on there graphics i got sick of it all that and now my ps2 is being used prety much as a dvd player now,i still play games just very seldom now well exept my old games consoles that is.
Back on to the argument on which is better, i think itl be the console which is most powerfull or the console with the nicer controller to be honest cus most games are muliti-platform now anyways so people are either gonna go with the better looking game or the console with the comfyst controller,thats the way i was anyways i eventyally sold my x-box cuz the only really great exclusive game it had at the time was halo and halo 2 and they were both out or coming out on the pc,and the ps2 had the comfyst controller.
I sort of agree. In that I preferred the PS1 to the current generation, although I don't think I could say I preferred my Megadrive to that, never owned a SNES though, been relying on emulation to catch up on those games...
I'm not sure if putting the blame on sequels is fair. GTA3 was a sequel but it was also for me the most jaw dropping game of this generation. And Vice City and San Andreas were just as much fun, I'm happy Rockstar went with those sequels than something original (eg State of Emergency), the chances of them making something that good again from scratch are fairly slim.
The problem at the moment is that graphics just can't impress anymore. I remember seeing Half Life 2 screenshots ages ago and thinking 'wow', then when I finally played it, it was indeed better looking than anything I'd played before, and near photo-realistic, but that didn't impress me. It's what you expect from a big release these days. GT4 looked stunning, but that didn't surprise me or impress me. Same can be said of numerous other games.
Whereas the PS1's graphics were like a whole other world at the time. I remember being shocked by Virtua Racing in the arcade, then a few months later I got to see a PS1 in action (Destruction Derby) and my jaw hit the floor. And that amazement wasn't just at launch titles, it continued when programmers came up with new techniques(Gran Turismo 1, oh my god!) FFVII's primitive graphics amazed me at the time, FFX's fantastic graphics pretty much went unnoticed on the PS2.
The next generation has something up its sleeve that could rekindle that sort of disbelief the PS1 brought though I hope. That's not the graphics, it's the processing power. I've read so many interviews with developers about the next generation, and they're always talking about the physics and how solid everything will be. That's what impressed me about Half Life 2. Not the graphics. And the scope is there for physics engines to do incredibly complex things and to make the worlds not just look real, but behave and feel real.Eg. you could have fighting games where characters actually collide properly and don't just go from set-animation to set-animation, and the benefits of this kind of thing for driving and action games goes without saying. And imagine if they used this kind of processing power to give characters dynamic AI in RPGs, that may be pushing it a bit too far but you can see where I'm going. The PS2 could do PS1 games in fancy clothing, but the next gen consoles should hopefully do so much more than that!
Then again I always try to be optimistic about things 0
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