The Wisdom of Noel Gallagher

Giblet

Guys, cop on. As hilarious as it is to watch people argue over which artist has more integrity based on how popular they are to the masses, it's a tired argument. I couldn't care less if you hate Noel Gallagher or Oasis for whatever reasons, musical snobbery pisses me off, and as far as I'm concerned you're all full of crap trying to justify this and that or why you shouldn't listen to this because you think something else is better. Keep it on topic.

magpie

Keep it on topic.

Hear hear!

Half-Bicycle

Bungalow Bill wrote:

Oh come on, that is how everybody gets into a band. You can't expect me to get some obscure track by a band I dont know ahead of their most famous one surely?
Pete Doherty is also tabloid fodder, it shouldn't diminish his contribution to music though.

Ask yourself why some songs are deemed obscure and some aren't. It's about playlists, shifting units, product, making filthy lucre. It's about so-called safe sounds. Trust me, there's something joyous about discovering a new or old band that you previously dismissed. Where do Oasis get their influences from -that's a starting point in the world of musical discovery. Listen to a band, trace their influences, open your mind to a myriad of different sounds. I sound patronising now, Bill. Apologies but it doesn't always begin and end with verse, chorus, verse.

Half-Bicycle

Giblet wrote:

Keep it on topic.

Sorry peeps.

Keyzer

Giblet wrote:

Guys, cop on. As hilarious as it is to watch people argue over which artist has more integrity based on how popular they are to the masses, it's a tired argument. I couldn't care less if you hate Noel Gallagher or Oasis for whatever reasons, musical snobbery pisses me off, and as far as I'm concerned you're all full of crap trying to justify this and that or why you shouldn't listen to this because you think something else is better. Keep it on topic.

I agree that we've gone off topic but there's no need to patronise the whole lot of us, we were having a good argument before you turned up....

Bungalow Bill

Half-Bicycle wrote:

Ask yourself why some songs are deemed obscure and some aren't. It's about playlists, shifting units, product, making filthy lucre. It's about so-called safe sounds. Trust me, there's something joyous about discovering a new or old band that you previously dismissed. Where do Oasis get their influences from -that's a starting point in the world of musical discovery. Listen to a band, trace their influences, open your mind to a myriad of different sounds. I sound patronising now, Bill. Apologies but it doesn't always begin and end with verse, chorus, verse.

I've already said that I do listen to a lot of music and am a musician myself but through all that Oasis, as the first band I really loved, have remained very near the top of the list.
I like a but of jazz and a bit of classical but tbh my first love is with the pop song and that short blast of entertainment.

Giblet

Keyzer wrote:

I agree that we've gone off topic but there's no need to patronise the whole lot of us, we were having a good argument before you turned up....

No, we were having a good thread before you all showed up. You are having the same argument everyone has anytime Oasis pops up, or Nirvana etc etc.

Bungalow Bill

Giblet wrote:

No, we were having a good thread before you all showed up. You are having the same argument everyone has anytime Oasis pops up, or Nirvana etc etc.

I do agree with you but I just can't resist defending oasis any time someone comes out with some snide comment...its an illness really..

Keyzer

Giblet wrote:

No, we were having a good thread before you all showed up. You are having the same argument everyone has anytime Oasis pops up, or Nirvana etc etc.

You didn't contribute to the thread until you told us all to shut up....
Anyway, we were having a good argument but pointless inevitably..
Lets get back to the funnies before Giblet bans us...

Bungalow Bill

There was a really funny period when doing a bunch of promotional interviews in America recently where he told them all that the album was called 'The ear has no memory'" just taking the piss !! who else would do that!!

Half-Bicycle

Giblet wrote:

No, we were having a good thread before you all showed up. You are having the same argument everyone has anytime Oasis pops up, or Nirvana etc etc.

I've never slagged off Oasis here before, far as I'm aware. And Nirvana I have no problems with whatsoever.

Giblet

Keyzer wrote:

Lets get back to the funnies before Giblet bans us...

Why would I ban anyone? I might have closed the thread. Feel free to start your own thread discussing anything you'd like, just don't use other threads as a vessel.

Bungalow Bill

A good Liam one:

“Americans want grungy people, stabbing themselves in the head on stage. They get a bright bunch like us, with deodorant on, they don't get it.”
- Liam

magpie

Noel on the new pope:

"If the last Pope was called JOHN PAUL, the new one shoulda been called GEORGE RINGO."

Bungalow Bill

Liam again:

I'd rather look back in my career - or whatever the f*cking hell it is - in 20 years' time and sit next to Bono and Coldplay geezer and all these other f*cking lightweights and go, Well you didn't save the world, so you can f*ck off...and you - you! - you can wash your hand.

I can sit next to Elvis, Lennon or whoever and I won't feel out of place [...] And I'll tell you another thing... If you see Coldplay in there, you'll know it's f*cking rigged.

Bungalow Bill

And an absolute classic:

Liam On God:
"If a guy suddenly appears before me with a big beard and locks and all that caper and performed some f***ing miracle, and then said to me, 'Liam, I am God' I'd say, 'Fair enough, it's a fair cop. I didn't believe in you but fair play, you've got me.' But until that day comes he can f*** right off."

magpie

big beard and locks and all that caper

Creature

Heh this thread is excellent. Brightened up my day

Here's some more I found:

"We're not arrogant, we just believe we're the best band in the world."

"Liam's leaving the band this very minute. Liam's ALWAYS leaving the band. It's raining today so he's leaving the band 'cos it's raining. He threatened to leave in Minneapolis because I wouldn't go to a pub with him!" - On questions of Liam leaving the band.

"A lot of bands split up over stupid arguments. I tend to keep my mouth shut a lot more now and just go home and kick the neighbour's cat."

Jimmy_Jazz

Noel on trying to get the right performance out of Liam in the studio:

"Every time I say to Liam, You might want to try and back off on that, the words he hears in his head are, 'Your two sons are lesbian Nazis.'"

Third_Echelon

Ah yes the Liam and Noel quotes are genius...

Less of the muppetry fokes and more of the quotes...

BaZmO*

Brilliant thread. People mightn't like their music which is fair enough, (their perogative) but I think everyone has to agree, they're funny fúckers!

B.

demanufactured

There a couple of knobheads lol

My girlfriend actually banned them from a pub she ran in manchester once

magpie

Noel on Robbie Williams. Class, of course.

So you and Robbie are not friends any more then?
I've never been his friend. He was Liam's friend. Liam used to invite him to the gigs and stuff like that. I've been in dressing rooms with him, I've had conversations with him but I wouldn't even consider him to be a friend of mine.

Why?
Because he was in Take That! He's a fat dancer from Take That. Somebody who danced for a living! Stick to what you're good at, that's what I always say.

catching_streams

OASIS SNUB ROYAL INVITE

OASIS star NOEL GALLAGHER has revealed he turned down the chance to visit British monarch QUEEN ELIZABETH II at Buckingham Palace last year (04), because he has no respect for the royal family.

The rocker admits he was surprised by the odd invite to the Queen's London residence, but had no intention of honouring it.

He says, "We wouldn't go. Royalty - they're not from a world I can comprehend.

"I don't know where they come from or what they do or what their role is in life or who the f**k they think they are."

Lest we forget 10 Downing Street to hob nob with Tony Bliar ::) However he does regret it big time, just caught up in the moment i suppose, but it was disgraceful. Still im loving this new article. Never forget his roots..Legend...on another note I think Don't Believe The Truth is a fantastic album, was expecting the same derivative ****e as the last 2 but this is really good. Seems they have redeemed themselves considerably. Importance Of Being Idle, Keep The Dream Alive, Let There Be Love and I Can See You Now are terrific IMHO.

Half-Bicycle

I can think of one quote which turned my stomach at the time, printed in The Observer when Noel said he wished Damon Albarn and Alex James of Blur would
"catch AIDS and die".

Not very clever, even by Noel's standards.

BaZmO*

Half-Bicycle wrote:

I can think of one quote which turned my stomach at the time, printed in The Observer when Noel said he wished Damon Albarn and Alex James of Blur would
"catch AIDS and die".

Not very clever, even by Noel's standards.

I don't believe that. Link?

Half-Bicycle

BaZmO* wrote:

I don't believe that. Link?

Yes, it's tough when your heroes let you down

When I heard years after that Bowie gave a nazi salute at Victoria, I was a bit gutted but that's cocaine-addled genius for you.

Don't have the time to google the Noel comment but I'm sure you'll find it somewhere.

It happened maybe some 10 years ago & that's when I stopped playing Morning Glory, for a few years, tbh.

Plenty of musicians say stupid things, they weren't the first and won't be the last - it should be so that you should be able separate the music from the, eh, "artist" but since popular culture these days dictates that the said "artist" or name/brand is often more important than the product... well, it's not easy.

Anyway, NG said it and was roundly (and rightly) condemned and I'm pretty sure he made some sort of apology. Be surprised if he didn't.

BaZmO*

I wouldn't call him a "Hero" of mine, although I have quoted him in my sig but in fairness I would've quoted whomever made that comment.

Just done a quick Google and found this

He actually did say it. Below is his retraction.

During the height of the Blur vs Oasis media battle, Noel gave an interview
with the national newspaper the Observer. Printed in the middle of September,
Noel was quoted as saying he wished Alex James and Damon Albarn of Blur would
"catch AIDS and die". Obviously this was not the kind of thing to impress the
world. I think his letter to Melody Maker the week after the incident sums
up what happened:

"I would like to apologise to all concerned who took offence
at my comments about Damon Albarn and Alex Jaes in an Observer
article printed last Sunday.

"The off-the-cuff remark was made last month at the height of
a "war of words" between both bands, and it must have been the
50th time during that interview that I was pressed to give an
opinion of Blur. As soon as I said it, I realised it was an
insensitive thing to say as AIDS is no joking matter, and
immediately retracted the comment, but was horrified to pick up
The Observer and find the journalist concerned chose to still
run with it.

"Anyone who knows me will confirm that I've always ben sympathetic
with the plight of HIV carriers and AIDS sufferers, as well as
being supportive of the challenge to raise awareness about AIDS
and HIV.

"Although not being a fan of their music, I wish both Damon and
Alex a long and healthy life."

B.

Half-Bicycle

Love this bit "As soon as I said it, I realised it was an
insensitive thing to say as AIDS is no joking matter, and
immediately retracted the comment, but was horrified to pick up
The Observer and find the journalist concerned chose to still
run with it."

Bloody hacks! It's all their fault! :rolleyes:

BaZmO*

Yeah, a bit silly to blame the reporter. As if he wasn't going to print it!

But I suppose NG had to say something to defend himself. Silly Boy!

B.

magpie

When I heard years after that Bowie gave a nazi salute at Victoria,

Well, he had just arrived back from Berlin, after all.

Bungalow Bill

"Hello Sao Paulo, my name is Noel, but you can call me God"