'Dingle' has no place in Gaeltacht - O Cuiv

billy the squid

Victor wrote:

Dún Laoghaire?

yet they pronounce it Done Leery,

can't they just do what the russians did, with Lenningrad/Stalingrad/ St. Petersberg, change the name of the town every time they got a new leader,

The Corinthian

billy the squid wrote:

can't they just do what the russians did, with Lenningrad/Stalingrad/ St. Petersberg, change the name of the town every time they got a new leader,

Don't you mean St. Petersberg/Petrograd/Lenningrad/St. Petersberg?

Hagar

Andrew 83 wrote:

I don't want Dun Laoghaire to convert back to Kingstown

And just what was it called before it was called Kingstown by the English?
My guess would be Dún Laoghaire.

zuma

The Corinthian wrote:

Don't you mean St. Petersberg/Petrograd/Lenningrad/Stalingrad/St. Petersberg?

I thought Lenningrad and Stalingrad were two separate cities?

Those dictators and their view of themselves...ha!!!

The Corinthian

zuma wrote:

I thought Lenningrad and Stalingrad were two separate cities?

Actually you're right - I should have spotted that! Damned mornings!

simu

linux wrote:

Any actual facts and figures links etc. to back this up?

Hard to find stats on this on-line tbh and the census doesn't count because people lie or are deluded about the quality of their Irish. Anyone else have on-line links?

My devotion to boards doesn't quite extend to going to the library and doing proper research!

murphaph

billy the squid wrote:

can't they just do what the russians did, with Lenningrad/Stalingrad/ St. Petersberg, change the name of the town every time they got a new leader,

Cuivgrad. I like it! This kind of rubbish is why we're not a real country yet, we're still playing at being a real country. O'Cuiv once said to my mam-"do you know who I am?" (to which she repled;"no", even though she knew right well). He's a tosser still living in his grandfather's skinny little shadow.

simu

Well, Baile Uí Chuív, surely. Let the linguistic war begin!

Calina

simu wrote:

Well, Baile Uí Chuív, surely. Let the linguistic war begin!

Isn't that a direct translation for Ballykeefe, already somewhere or other in the country?

simu

Calina wrote:

Isn't that a direct translation for Ballykeefe, already somewhere or other in the country?

It's possible that such a place exists alright. Maybe it should be Baile Éamoin Uí Chuív then, to avoid any confusion.

netwhizkid

O Cuiv should not bother with something he does not understand this is as sensitive to the people of west Kerry, as the whole Derry - Londonderry thing is up north except Dingle should be allowed keep its name unlike Londonderry which should be changed to Derry. Obviously O Cuiv has underestimated the Dingle people, with their erection of this Dingle, Hollywod type sign.

From the Kerryman -Unsion website wrote:

‘Stop Dingle becoming like Hollywood’ say protestors

By Ted Creedon

A CONTROVERSIAL giant sign proclaiming the name ‘Dingle’, erected above the town on Sunday morning, was gone by Monday evening — hours before council officials declared their intention to have it removed.

It was dismantled by the same people who assembled it, after one of the letters was blown down by the wind.

Locals were totally taken by surprise by the appearance of the sign on Cnoc a’ Chairn on Sunday.

The group who erected it began work around 4am on Sunday and by 11am, the giant Hollywood-style letters, 25 feet high, were visible for miles.

The immediate impression in the town was that this was a high-profile demonstration in support of retaining the name of Dingle, which has been officially designated An Daingean.

When The Kerryman arrived at the scene a champagne cork was popping and a group of men, women and children were celebrating having completed the task.

At first they did not want to be identified but then one of the group, local artist Darryl Courtney, said he was happy to go on record.

“I've wanted to do this for the past two years. The concept is to draw attention to how Dingle is becoming like Hollywood in terms of prices, commercialism and lifestyle. These letters are half the size of the Hollywood sign but prices here are twice those of anywhere else in the country,” he said.

So it’s just a coincidence that it fits in with the movement to retain the name Dingle?

“It’s part of that too. Hollywood is a brand name - the same as Dingle. Changing the name is just a waste of money, our money and a loss of that brand name,” he said.

Council staff who arrived at the scene would not comment on whether or not they would remove the sign, which was erected without planning permission.

Most local people saw the sign as a bit of fun and were very impressed by its scale and positioning.


“I think the people of Dingle took this sign in a light-hearted fashion but they also saw it as focusing people’s minds on the name change dispute and that's a good thing,” said local restaurateur John Moriarty.

O Cuiv and Fianna Fail will pay a heavy price in Dingle and West Kerry which was a Fianna Fail heartland traditionally. However Fine Gael Will benefit massivly as a result and good enough for Fianna Fail.

oscarBravo

Two things spring out at me - one from netwhizkid, one from Darryl Courtney:

netwhizkid wrote:

O Cuiv should not bother with something he does not understand this is as sensitive to the people of west Kerry, as the whole Derry - Londonderry thing is up north except Dingle should be allowed keep its name unlike Londonderry which should be changed to Derry.

Riiight. Dingle is a sensitive issue to the locals, so the name shouldn't be changed. Derry is a sensitive issue to the locals, so the name should be changed. Ah, the futility of consistency.

Darryl Courtney wrote:

“... The concept is to draw attention to how Dingle is becoming like Hollywood in terms of prices, commercialism and lifestyle.”

“... Hollywood is a brand name - the same as Dingle. Changing the name is just a waste of money, our money and a loss of that brand name...”

Um, so the sign was drawing attention to the commercialism of Dingle, but simultaneously bemoaning the loss of a commercial brand?

Mick86

egan007 wrote:

Theres your problem right there.....
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It's the only thing that really matters.

I'll bet the residents of Killarney would be less than happy if their brand-name town was changed to something else.

Sponge Bob

Mick86 wrote:

Killarney would be less than happy if their brand-name town was changed to something else.

I worked for a Ms. Arney once, she was quite amenable to burning the whole lot down as an insult to the Arney clan .