Rangers win the league

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KdjaC wrote:

Pats tbh


kdjac

:eek:
I am, however, slagging Pats.

KdjaCL

seansouth wrote:

:eek:
I am, however, slagging Pats.

When you leave Celtic park with your throat in unbearable pain and a 0-0 on the scoreboard, then you may slag Celtic and moi!

/tekkit bitch


kdjac

eirebhoy

nlgbbbblth wrote:

Rangers won by one point this time

..............P W D L F A Pts
Rangers 38 29 6 3 78 22 93
Celtic 38 30 2 6 85 35 92

Yes but as I said, the 2nd goal wouldn't have been conceded if we had a better goal difference than Rangers as every player wouldn't have went up to the Motherwell box to get the winner. Looking at the amount of goals conceded, Rangers deserved the league anyway.

Headshot

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

When you lie with dogs, you catch fleas

dam straight

astrofool

Well i'm half scots/half irish, and would support aberdeen in the SPL, or more precisely, Queen of the South who are in Division 1, as they're the local team to where i'd be from.

I'd prefer Celtic to win over Rangers, but the way alot of Irish people go on about Celtic makes me cringe, especially with comments like above, its the type of petty-mindedness and secular racism that only a bunch of dullards could posess, and the sooner these people grow up, the better.

mike65

sighs

Mike.

jesus_thats_gre

mike65 wrote:

sighs

Mike.

hmmm, a massive contingent of Celtic supporters in Ireland are not scumbags... Good to see the Unionists taking advantage too.. Nice people..

mike65

Sure, its the fact it happend at all thats depressing - b-grade football in an minor league used as a proxy for warfare.

Cant imagine too many scraps breaking out regarding the FA Cup upset.

Mike.

talla

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

When you lie with dogs, you catch fleas

banned for a week

eyerer

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

When you lie with dogs, you catch fleas

LOL

eirebhoy wrote:

Yes but as I said, the 2nd goal wouldn't have been conceded if we had a better goal difference than Rangers as every player wouldn't have went up to the Motherwell box to get the winner.

but, surely you knew someone would have to respond in the fashion he did... :rolleyes:
i think given the number of games celtic lost they didn't deserve to win it

The DUP is blaming Celtic fans for the unrest.

i see things haven't changed
i dont know why they even open their mouths.....does anyone think the dup is gonna give an objective account....

Big Chief

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

As for the whooping of joy displayed here and the comments about part time Celtic fans, well dear God that is some cheek considering this place is the alter to the EPL and the majority of those fans probably have not got closer to a football game than their remote control!

well said.

Also may i add that you can slag the scottish game as much as you want, but the fact remains atleast that the Scottish people support there own scottish teams and the premier league matches for about 1 lower level club probably takes about as much ppl through the turnstiles as the whole eircom league does all round for that week. Now it may be bad, that is not the point, but atleast we try to improve on things and support our own born and bred clubs in our own country and not cling on helplessly to an ENGLISH premier league club. That is what i find the most pathetic of all.

Eircom league could be better if more of the actual irish people would go watch it, support there own team.. the only way for these clubs to get better is through financial methods and no gate fees = lack of finances.. and who is to blame for that apart from the soccer fans in ireland who refuse to follow there own clubs.

ziggy

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WhiteWashMan

my word.
such bitterness.

they giveth with one hand, and taketh with the other...

meepmeep

Woooooooooooooooooooo!

Nearly had a heart attack in the last few minutes there.

Can't believe it. Celtic only threw it away, but we'll snatch it with both hands.

And Headshot, cop on.......

Woooooo!

kaimera

I dunno. People getting worked up over very little imo.

sure the real game is on Wednesday night

eirebhoy

This is back to square one. The most dissapointed I've felt over a Celtic result in years. A couple of days ago I couldn't wait for the rebuilding of the squad but now I couldn't be bothered. Rangers have the upper hand now. They are supposedly signing 5 quality players for next season, they'll be able to attract a better calibre now, they don't have the 2nd round qualifiers to play.

sleepwalker

i think your misunderstanding the argument put forward by people who get irritated at Irish Celtic supporters. its the fact that alot of Celtic fans go around saying there supporting an Irish team when there supporting a Scottish team. The people who are making comments about Irish Celtic fans here fully accept they support English teams and really don't care who people support just once they dont go around claiming to be more Irish because they support a Scottish club.

Anyway hard luck to the Celtic fans must have been gutting but sure not to worry you have a 50/50 chance next season to get it back and im sure youll win the cup anyway.

ziggy

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Nuttzz

MON made a few dodgy signings this year, Carmara & Juinhino (sp?) as well as a coup with Bellamy.

The truth is the Celtic board wont release the cash and give MON the free hand to sign who he wants, Loan deals from English Div 1 clubs and lower premier leauge clubs are not the actions of Champions IMO and certainly lack forward thinking.

At the moment Cash is King in football the sooner the celtic board come to terms with this the better

thejollyrodger

i dont support either club. but fair play to rangers. Celtic really did piss it all down the toilet.. good medicine for Celtic i say.

20 Times 20 Times

Was at the game very disappointed i was standing next to a old celtic supporter who started to cry i just threw my arm around him , was thinking to myself 2003 all over again , celtic WILL NOT win the spl next season MON is getting no money and plus i wouldnt be surprised if he takes a year out of the game to be beside his wifes side. The hardest part of MON whole celtic career is next season he has the task of rebuilding a old squad with no money , his first season he inherited a good squad low morale , i watch from upper jock stein with great antiaption . and wonder if we are ready to hit rock bottom again

MrJoeSoap

mike65 wrote:

sighs

Mike.

Saw on some news report this morning that a Policewoman had a bottle smashed across her face and either 12 or 18 (can't remember, was sleepy at the time) police officers were injured.

Typical reactions tbh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1968543.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/Story/0,2763,856190,00.html

eirebhoy

sleepwalker wrote:

i think your misunderstanding the argument put forward by people who get irritated at Irish Celtic supporters. its the fact that alot of Celtic fans go around saying there supporting an Irish team when there supporting a Scottish team. The people who are making comments about Irish Celtic fans here fully accept they support English teams and really don't care who people support just once they dont go around claiming to be more Irish because they support a Scottish club.

Anyway hard luck to the Celtic fans must have been gutting but sure not to worry you have a 50/50 chance next season to get it back and im sure youll win the cup anyway.

Judge the people who actually know who plays for Celtic and not those who wear the jerseys (ie. half of Ireland). Seansouth got it right by calling them "so-called Celtic supporters".

The amount of people associated with Celtic who have hundreds of millions, some with billions in the bank. You'd think they'd even invest 1-2% of their fortune in the club. The sooner they realise the Old Firm are not going join the premiership any time soon the better.

MrJoeSoap

eirebhoy wrote:

Judge the people who actually know who plays for Celtic and not those who wear the jerseys (ie. half of Ireland).

Fair point but it is kinda hard to ignore half of Ireland. These people are the reason I don't support Celtic. When I was younger (about 8) and didn't know about the whole Rangers-Celtic divide, I got a Rangers jersey.

Have you ever tried walking around Dublin in a Rangers jersey? It doesn't go down very well.

20 Times 20 Times

in fairness i agree with you eirebhoy

but

without the revenue them so call fans bring in by buying all the jersey and merchantise then celtic would be in a far worst postiton then there in now

redspider

It was real hard luck for Celtic yesterday. I saw it on Setanta and could hardly believe it was happening. Celtic were generally the better team than Motherwell but could do little about the first Motherwell goal by McDonald, which came out of the blue really and was more or less unstoppable. Celtic can only blame themselves really for not finishing off the game and making it 2-0. They had the chances to do so but Marshall the Motherwell keeper played above his level. A pity that at the other match Hibs were putting in very little effort towards the end. The contrast between Motherwell and Hibs level of effort was amazing.

Celtic will rue the matches the let slip throughout the season. Rangers also had slip-ups. I think though that a good solution for this and other leagues, I have probably mentioned it before, is when teams in leagues finish very close to eash other, eg: 3 pts, that they should have a play-off. That is a fairer system as well as being more exciting for fans, etc.

Redspider

meepmeep

redspider wrote:

Celtic will rue the matches the let slip throughout the season. Rangers also had slip-ups. I think though that a good solution for this and other leagues, I have probably mentioned it before, is when teams in leagues finish very close to eash other, eg: 3 pts, that they should have a play-off. That is a fairer system as well as being more exciting for fans, etc.

Redspider

How is that fairer? So that the team who wins the league, might have a chance to have it taken off them? Hmm I wonder if this would be suggested if Celtic had won by the 2 point gap they had on Sunday morning.

In fairness Redspider I read a lot of your posts and usually agree with what you have to say - but that is nonsense.

eirebhoy

meepmeep wrote:

How is that fairer? So that the team who wins the league, might have a chance to have it taken off them? Hmm I wonder if this would be suggested if Celtic had won by the 2 point gap they had on Sunday morning.

In fairness Redspider I read a lot of your posts and usually agree with what you have to say - but that is nonsense.

Well a playoff would have been fairer 2 seasons ago when Rangers won the league by 1 goal. Of course it would and nobody can dispute that. But yesterday the players knew they had to win the match and they didn't. The players will have learnt more from this match than they've probably ever learnt from a match before though. Hartson especially, he should have been diving in when the balls were getting drilled in.

egan007

Congratulations Rangers

redspider

meepmeep wrote:

How is that fairer? So that the team who wins the league, might have a chance to have it taken off them? Hmm I wonder if this would be suggested if Celtic had won by the 2 point gap they had on Sunday morning. In fairness Redspider I read a lot of your posts and usually agree with what you have to say - but that is nonsense.

The reasoning behind this proposal is that over a single season, 38 games in Engand and Scotland, that small random effects (or lady luck) are not evened out over such a short space of time. For example, a team plays Dundee away in Jan and an away goal is scored yet the linesman incorrectly disallows it for offside. The match is a draw and the team drop two points. A season has many effects. For example, say Rangers play Dundee in Aug and thump them 6-0. Celtic play Dundee in Feb after a Uefa match and only win 1-0. There is unfairness in the system, it doesnt assess teams capabilities accurately.

Pick any example you want, but essentially, if two teams are within three points of each other (in Scotland, England or any other league) they are equally as good as one another. If there is a mere one goal difference, then hey, that is a hair's breadth and you may as well have tossed a coin.

I agree using the play-off method doesnt apply to yesterday as it needs to be put in the rules before the season starts, etc. But to me it makes sense, and there are examples in other sports. eg: in GAA, they play a league semi-finals and finals. In Aussie Rules, they play a top-8. In US NFL, they have play-offs, etc.

The point is that Rangers won the league yesterday, true, but can they really say that they were better than Celtic? Probably not. If they played a head to head play-off and won, then they could.

Redspider