Gimmicky metal bands

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Does anyone else find these bands ridiculous?
I'm talking about bands that have names like "Bal Sagoth" and "Cruachan", who have pictures of castles and unicorns on their album sleeves. Their lyrics are about "throne of the serpent king", or something else fantastical like that.
I can't stand to hear these gimmicky metal bands, everything about them is pure BS. I actually heard recently, that there were such genres of metal as "battle metal" and "epic metal", and "myth/legend metal". How can lyrics like that really be relevant to anyones life?
These guys give decent heavy metal a bad name...
So there's my rant, agree/disagree as you please.

Doctor J

I don't think it's a gimmick, even though it wouldn't be my kind of thing. Lyrical matter is a personal thing, an artist writes what they know about. People draw their inspiration from different sources. I mean, would you say the Lord Of The Rings books are a gimmick or a fantastic story well told? If everybody sings about the same thing then music will die. Personally, I can't stand whiny middle class Americans bitching about their personal problems in that "look at me, I'm so miserable, my life is hard, you don't know how I feel but I'm going to whine over a heavy riff and tell you about it ad nauseum" that seems to be so popular at the moment, that stuff just gets on my tits and won't let up. I'd say that stuff is as much of a gimmick as any dungeons and dragons stuff.

dimerocks

not generally into them things either but blind guardian are fooking class and the have a whole lord of the rings album.

superconor

Oh no no no no, REAL men sing about castles and dragons and rainbows. That type of music is very, very good and a lot better than the majority of whiney "awww my girlfriend dumped me" bands.

As the great doctor said:

that stuff just gets on my tits and won't let up

Leather, Metal, Spikes And Chains my angry little scouser. What bands do you like then?

blind guardian are fooking class

Thats the spirit! \,,/

herobear

umm...its called folk metal. dont like it ? then dont listen to it pure and simple

Bottle_of_Smoke

scouser.tommy wrote:

Does anyone else find these bands ridiculous?
I'm talking about bands that have names like "Bal Sagoth" and "Cruachan", who have pictures of castles and unicorns on their album sleeves. Their lyrics are about "throne of the serpent king", or something else fantastical like that.
I can't stand to hear these gimmicky metal bands, everything about them is pure BS. I actually heard recently, that there were such genres of metal as "battle metal" and "epic metal", and "myth/legend metal". How can lyrics like that really be relevant to anyones life?
These guys give decent heavy metal a bad name...
So there's my rant, agree/disagree as you please.

Have you listened to the bands? Cruachan don't need a gimmick, they're a great band! What's your problem with the album covers, they're just interested in mythology and the like.

Pugsley

Under that basis your pretty much branding black metal out altogether, aswell as death metal, and all of Power Metal. Lyrics dont matter a damn imo, who honestly cares what any decent death metal singer is actually saying? if it sounds good, it could be about Pokemon for all I care.

moonboy

these guys give decent heavy metal a bad name

so whats your idea of decent metal then??

Mr. CooL ICE

If dragonforce shouldnt be 'allowed' sing about going into battle with a shiny sword, what gives iron maiden the right to sing about Icarus or being executed in Hallowed Be Thy Name? Should Metallica be slaughtered for writing Creeping Death, when they clearly are not Egyptian? No! Saying a band cant write about something that isnt relevant to their lives, cos you are clearly writing off great bands such as Slayer and countless others, who dont sing about their lives in every song.

Thats just ignorance.

c - 13

LordChessington wrote:

If dragonforce shouldnt be 'allowed' sing about going into battle with a shiny sword, what gives iron maiden the right to sing about Icarus or being executed in Hallowed Be Thy Name? Should Metallica be slaughtered for writing Creeping Death, when they clearly are not Egyptian? No! Saying a band cant write about something that isnt relevant to their lives, cos you are clearly writing off great bands such as Slayer and countless others, who dont sing about their lives in every song.

Thats just ignorance.

And dont forget Zepplin's references to Lord of the Rings too (Ramble On)

Danger_Dave

Pugsley wrote:

Under that basis your pretty much branding black metal out altogether, aswell as death metal, and all of Power Metal. Lyrics dont matter a damn imo, who honestly cares what any decent death metal singer is actually saying? if it sounds good, it could be about Pokemon for all I care.

Give That man a can of coke !

Yep who honestly cares what there saying ? i mean we all know death metal etc sing about small little bunnies prancing around a meadow, fresh cut grass in the summer, all things nice

nadir

yeah, totally.
It's not gimmicky at all, metal has been like this since day 1.
get with the programme,

Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
Wimps And Posers I Said Leave The Hall

Now The World Must Listen To Our Decree
We Don’t Turn Down For Anyone
We Do Just What We Please
Got To Make It Louder All Men Play On Ten
If You’re Not Into Metal You Are Not My Friend Yea

Dathai

Its pagan metal.Immortal arent really an example of pagan metal but they do have some lyrics that promote paganism abit.Theyre more about the Vikings rather than anything else.Norse black metal.

...that eh, didnt make any sense whatsoever

rootofallevil

nadir wrote:

yeah, totally.
It's not gimmicky at all, metal has been like this since day 1.
get with the programme,

Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
Wimps And Posers I Said Leave The Hall

Now The World Must Listen To Our Decree
We Don’t Turn Down For Anyone
We Do Just What We Please
Got To Make It Louder All Men Play On Ten
If You’re Not Into Metal You Are Not My Friend Yea

Just reading it gets me all excited
I cant believe it took many posts before the power of MANOWAR was unleashed to set this issue straight. let no man ever say this is gimmicky or it will be at their peril.
FEEL THE POWER OF THE SWORD

Pugsley

On the topic of Manowar, cant beat the cheesiest line of a song ever:
'Keep you sword wet like a young virgin in her prime'
Wan Manowar

dimerocks

speaking of such metal, Einharjar are bloody great too, don't think i spelt it right though. fa la la la lala la la la la

Geranium

Who cares what a bands sings about/sounds like as long as you can enjoy listening to them? And in conclusion...

BY THE POWER OF STEEEEEEEL!!!

superconor

I cant believe it took many posts before the power of MANOWAR was unleashed

I subtely released it in the 4th post
Phear Manowar, phear any band that poses for album covers in loin cloths and baby oil!

Lol 'Keep you sword wet like a young virgin in her prime'!
My personal Favourite is "Reach For Me Dragon, We'll Meet In The Sky!"

Should we have a cheesiest lyrics thread?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

let us not forget Rhapsody

symphonic power hollywood metal!

Ronan|Raven

Out in the distance
There's so much gold
The treasure that I've found
Is more than enough
Far to the hill we've to go
Over the mountains and seas
To the old hill
Where the old dragon sleeps
Blind in the dark dungeon's night
So God please take me away from here
And Gollum shows the way right out


Blind Guardian how I love thee :-D

Ph3n0m

Mordeth wrote:

let us not forget Rhapsody

symphonic power hollywood metal!

Hollywood - they're Italian!!!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://hem.passagen.se/tobiasha/rhapsody/hollywood_metal.htm


Read about Rhapsody´s own new style - Hollywood Metal.


hehehehe

Ph3n0m

I refuse to believe that - its bad enough we have to put up with Norwegian Viking Troll Black Folk Metal - but Hollywood Metal - have they no shame

pbsuxok1znja4r

herobear wrote:

umm...its called folk metal. dont like it ? then dont listen to it pure and simple

Well I don't listen to it. Pure and simple(?).

And I'm not deriding ALL power metal bands. For example, Sonata Arctica don't feel the need to write 100% about elves and magic and fairies and orcs and enchanted swords and wizards. Sonata have plenty of great down-to-earth songs: Tallulah, Letter to Dana, Sing in silence, The End of This Chapter, San Sebastion...etc

To the guy who mentioned Metallica's "creeping death". I hate to tell you, but that stuff ain't fantasy. Its from THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.
I don't mind when a good band writes the odd fantasy-based song every now and then, e.g. Iron Maiden. I listen to Maiden all the time, but the one thing I hate about them is their gimmicks and their album covers etc. I love Maiden, but hate Eddie.
Yes, death metal in general is crap, having a handful of exceptions. Same goes for black metal.

Sure, the music can still sometimes be good, except for when they have some cheesy keyboard parts...but for a band to really be great, their lyrics should mean something. "Who cares what they sing about" you ask? I do. I know lots of other people who do. Anyone who takes a "who cares" approach to the music they listen to is an idiot.

Yes, as for Blind Guardians's LOTR album...I bet those lyrics came from personal experience, eh? Singing something that doesnt come from the heart is a waste of time, really.

Haha please, quote more Manowar lyrics, they are f'n hilarious!!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

To the guy who mentioned Metallica's "creeping death". I hate to tell you, but that stuff ain't fantasy. Its from THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

rofl

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

omg

lol

classic

Mr. CooL ICE

scouser.tommy wrote:

that stuff ain't fantasy

So many things to say, so many things to rant about, but i wont, for the sake of keeping this thread on-topic.

rootofallevil

Who can discuss fantasy and metal without the immortal words of CoF
"Carpathia
The pleasured dead speak of her
In necromantic tongue
When ambered daylights are done

Masterbating in their graves
On her zenith to come...."

Keats himself would be in awe.

Doctor J

scouser.tommy wrote:

Singing something that doesnt come from the heart is a waste of time, really.

I would say maybe 0.05% of all music comes from the heart, drawn from personal experience, if even that. Just because a dude whines about being alone, waiting for the phone, with no place to call home, won't you see his misery etc etc etc, it doesn't mean it's coming from anywhere different to a dude singing about a mythical battle.

As for Metallica, Fade To Black for example, is about a dude killing himself, was it Lars or James who topped themselves and rose from the dead. As for One, well I don't recall any of them getting injured on active service? All made up, just as made up as any Manowar lyric. Please, please, please give us some examples of lyrics that you deem as real and from the heart.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Hammerfall - Glory to the brave

\m/

rootofallevil

"Hit me baby one more time" was from the heart (of a whack-a-jack toy)

Pugsley

scouser.tommy wrote:

I hate to tell you, but that stuff ain't fantasy. Its from THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

lol give this guy a medal :rolleyes: