I Saw A Cheater!

Cianan2

I heard you get,like, E50 if you report someone for cheatin. Easy money!

*Angel*

I doubt it, and not worth it imo.

Beau

No would`nt be worth it at all.

Da_IRISH_ONE4U

My opinion - Do it but don't get caught!

Murv

rumour has it some guy in my year got caught cheating, but all the examiner did was take his notes and phone off him...

Sully

In my school, the guy outside the door told me he followed a lad to the loo and your man started making phone calls and he had to go in and stop him lol. Other tales were that they were up and down to the toilet with the same crowd every few mins. The way the rooms were divided up in my school is that the all pass/foundation (normaly most troublesom) crowd where in one room and the good respectable A students in the other. Twas funny.

You could joke about with the examiners which was class, my phone went of and he just laughed. Another one asked me to sign to confirm the papers were secured and I was joking around making sure they were and then asked to see the papers before others. She just laughed.

Oakbark

I've thought about it, and even if i could stop time and get a brilliant grade, the guilt of cheating wouldn't be worth it. At least I know that every grade i got was through hard work and study throughout the two years, as opposed to that cheater who'll probably feel bad knowing part of his/her grade was achieved through cheating. I know its a points race but still. . .

bigmouth

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

segadreamcast

bigmouth wrote:

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

Due to the tension involved in doing such a thing - I'd say this is right.

Furthermore, cheating may even hinder you in a sense throughout the exam - as part of your mind will, whether you like it or not, thinking of how/when you're going to cheat and how to avoid being caught... you're only hurting yourself in the long run.

People are going to do it of course and, frankly, I wouldn't like the social stigma of being the bastard who ratted them out. Of course, if it's obvious cheating and you really hate the person, you could always strategically cough or knock your bottle of water onto the floor to gain the attention of the examiner - thus 'accidentally' getting them caught, you know?

randomfella

Survival of the fittest type of mentality is in place during the leaving.

I admire the risk-taking aspect but i don't respect the laziness that most cheaters show in work through the years.

I do have to say to a certain degree no matter how hard i've worked in subjects it really comes down to how u do on the day. Its how much u regurgitate and ur ability to do it, what comes up on the papers.

I've never been so much against this old-fashioned system of exams as i am now. Really its about time it was reformatted.

EdgarAllenPoo

sock.rocker* wrote:

yeah, really obvious.. same people go for 10 min toilet breaks every exam

it wud be so handy for the business short questions

I've gone to the toilet twice during the exams. Once during the first english paper and again during the first irish paper, each time the examiner wrote on the paper that I was gone for roughly ten minutes. Does that naturally mean that I cheated. Bollocks, I would be to afraid of getting caught to cheat.

"Cheating is only cheating if you get caught."

I always liked that phrase.

Con9903

Anybody have stories where cheaters were caught? And what happened to them?

EdgarAllenPoo

Con9903 wrote:

Anybody have stories where cheaters were caught? And what happened to them?

One year when I did the exam attendant thing I caught someone, the idiot was reading his notes on the bog with the door open, I didn't do anything about it though because that would be lousy.

passive

Listen up mr Rock.. if I hear of any incidents concerning Graeme, history notes on his hairless legs and a fallen bottle of Noels Water(tm) that draws the examiners attention there'll be organised beatings and don't you forget it :P.

...though it is graeme.

segadreamcast

passive wrote:

Listen up mr Rock.. if I hear of any incidents concerning Graeme, history notes on his hairless legs and a fallen bottle of Noels Water(tm) that draws the examiners attention there'll be organised beatings and don't you forget it :P.

...though it is graeme.

Makes me wanna drop my water all the more man .


P.S. Never, ever put the image of Graeme's legs into my mind. Ever. I'm not that gay.

JackKelly

lol.

Tbh. You'd take 600 points if someone offered it to you, so why not cheat? Either way, you are getting points without learning. That said, i wouldn't cheat myself! I could though, i know the girl who brings us to the toilet!

As far as "telling on them".lmao. Wouldn't do that.They have a hard enough time hiding from the examiner to have some go "miss miss, i see him/her cheating"

Africa

lol we escort ourselves to the bog!Grand! Although i aint cheating, i could cause i know the fella who is on our door that makes a note of all people that leave early and go to the toilet. But whats the point? sure i could learn it in the same time as is needed to cheat...

nobodythere

(Mind you, we're getting into larger areas here. It seems to me that it's really wrong to have an exam of such importance all in one week. What if you have your period, get the flu or have hay fever - or all three together, as happened to someone I know. I can't understand why there can't be an exam per month every month for the two years of the Leaving main course, with a chance to repeat as well. The whole thing seems so ritualistic and fetishistic and cruel, the way it is now.)

Because the idea of the leaving cert isn't to teach you things that will have application in your life... it's to test you under a stressful and intense environment. ****bags, can't believe I worried so much about an exam so unimportant to me, I feel embarrassed that I fell for the hype

nobodythere

bigmouth wrote:

TBH I think that if you go to the bother of writing notes on your hand, or leg, orwhatever, chances are that's the stuff you are going to remember anyway. It's just going to stick in your mind isn't it? :rolleyes:

As a regular cheater in unimportant school exams I can vouch for that, by the time you finish writing it you know it all in your head!

nobodythere

It's a little **** that they're potentially upping the points for a course by cheating though... I think the social stigma should be on the cheater cos it's pissy, I've never worked so hard in my life for some stupid exam and it's not nice when someone just comes in and works from their hairy legs/arms/calculator/hidden paper after all the time you've spent cramming it into your head.

I know it's unlikely that it'll up a course by more than 5/10 points but it could still mean ****ing over a year or someone's life just because you cheated and they didn't.

I wish there wasn't this survival of the fittest mentality, if we all had just worked with each other from the start of the year, helped with notes and problems instead of stepping on top of each other....

dbs_sailor

What do you consider cheating? Before a few of my exams, in my last seconds of study before I walk in, I write down a few keywords I need to know but will forget (e.g. in English, Emily Dickinson - Aphoristic, Love is, I heard a, etc..) on a sheet of paper, scrunch it up, throw it away, and then rewrite those key words on my exam script the minute I get in. Effectively, that's the same thing as what these twats do, only it's your short term memory you're using, not a piece of clothing or skin.

trishemurphy

I wish there wasn't this survival of the fittest mentality, if we all had just worked with each other from the start of the year, helped with notes and problems instead of stepping on top of each other....[/QUOTE]

i like that idea apparently over in america or somewhere they split into groups of 3 or 4 at the start of the year and everyone picks sections and they learn it off and make out notes for the rest of the group and then teach it to them i'd love this

Da_IRISH_ONE4U

trishemurphy wrote:

i like that idea apparently over in america or somewhere they split into groups of 3 or 4 at the start of the year and everyone picks sections and they learn it off and make out notes for the rest of the group and then teach it to them i'd love this

Im not so sure if I would like that. Supposing one of the people in your group is just useless at making notes? - Would you not be happier knowing that your own notes are ok?

*Angel*

I'd say writing your own notes is a lot better, and nobody would be able to understand my crazy notes anyway.

*Roisin*

I find that it's more making the notes, than the actual notes that help me. I mean ya have to read through everything to make them, and make note of all the important things. That's when everything seems to seep in for me.

And what if somebody else thought something wasn't that important and so didn't include it, but it turned out it was, and you hadn't learned it?

nobodythere

trishemurphy wrote:

i like that idea apparently over in america or somewhere they split into groups of 3 or 4 at the start of the year and everyone picks sections and they learn it off and make out notes for the rest of the group and then teach it to them i'd love this

I'm considering starting an open free wiki-style community for notes and past paper solutions after LC.

sock.rocker*

my idea is pretty handy.. me friend is in another hall doin the same exam as me and we're gonna both go to the toilet at the exact same time.

we dont get escorted so its easy

sock.rocker*

dunno if i'll go through with it though.. gettin caught wud be ****

cuckoo

People may get away with cheating for the Leaving, but just wait until they get to college and try the same stuff. I've just finished my college exams, and they're hard core about cheating. Fines if you're caught with a mobile phone on you (even if it's turned off), clean desk policy (no calculator covers) and lots more invigilators than there are in school exams.

Last year a large number of students were caught cheating in the college exams - some were suspended from the college for a year, and then had to come back and repeat the year, some just had to repeat the year and final year students were told 'good bye, and don't let the door hit you on the back as you leave without your degree'.

Unless someone was the coolest of cucumbers, i'd imagine they'd be stressing out so much about getting caught that it would interfere with their performance on all their questions.

jacksie

Con9903 wrote:

Anybody have stories where cheaters were caught? And what happened to them?

your not allowed to do state exams for 4-5 years if your caught cheating in the leaving cert. inc driving test