Football Club United of Manchester

Cactus Col

Football Club United of Manchester is the club set up by MAn U fans (or ex Man U fans I guess).

They're hoping to play in the North West Counties League next season.

Although I reckon they should have just gone down the road and started supporting citeh.

Pigman II

Don't know enough about the situation tbh but what they're doing seems kinda pointless.

They're trying to 'do an afc wimbledon' from what I can tell but they seem to have ignored the fact that the club they're turning their back on
1) still exists with the same name as before
2) still resides in the same city
3) is about 1000 times more popular then wimbledon
4) only lost 120 more season ticket renewals this year compared with last which indicates to me that yer average ManU supporter might be peeved with the situation but certainly won't ever mind enough to ever walk away from the place.

Won't be easy for them at the new club imho.

cournioni

Cactus Col wrote:

Although I reckon they should have just gone down the road and started supporting citeh.

You have got to be taking the piss.

Green_Martian

I would never follow city...........................ever....

Well if i go over to OT this year i wll not be buying anything at the ground, programes, food drink etc........

PHB

They have 2600 members, and the phoenix fund is probably going to reach about 15 million from the shares sold.
They are out to make aprofit so they can buy back United when Glazier fails.
Theirin lies their plan, it however is quite flawed

Green_Martian

Thats what i like to hear PHB WHEN Glazer Fails

SteM

PHB wrote:

They have 2600 members, and the phoenix fund is probably going to reach about 15 million from the shares sold.
They are out to make aprofit so they can buy back United when Glazier fails.
Theirin lies their plan, it however is quite flawed

The pheonix fund is run by SU, Football Club United of Manchester is run completely seperately and won't be able to touch the money in this fund from what I've read.

As far as I can see it's a place for a bunch of disenfranchised fans to go and watch football and have a few beers on a Saturday afternoon. I can't see it becoming huge or anything and can't really see anything wrong with it.

Mitch Connor

actually - near 2000 season tickets have not been renewed - Man Utd have be telling fibs with their numbers.

Mitch Connor

Its not just people who hate Glazer that will support it - i know of various people who simply do not like the way football has gone, and want to simply enjoy football rather then the media and advertising that goes around football.

FC United is a romantic idea, but essentially flawed. However, they are a club i will follow and a jersey i will buy.

Iago

Tauren wrote:

actually - near 2000 season tickets have not been renewed - Man Utd have be telling fibs with their numbers.

hardly, so 2,000 wern't renewed, the waiting list is around 12,500 anyway so they'll be snapped up.

Almost 42,5000 season tickets sold already. Glazer isn't the devil here, in fact I think it's preferable to have him in charge rather than the old board. He has to be successful, and how is he going to do it? By ensuring that the team is successful, why have a problem with that?

He's going to increase ticket prices, average price of a ticket in Old Trafford at the moment is around £27. Average price of a ticket in Highbury £40, average price of a ticket in Stamford Bridge £45. According to his "leaked" plans, the price of a ticket for Old Trafford in 2010 will be around £42, again I don't see that being a particularly bad thing.

He's commited to £25M a year for transfer funds, that's more than the old board did. Give it time and you'll see the dissenting voices die off as the doom and gloom fails to materialise

SteM

Iago wrote:

He's commited to £25M a year for transfer funds, that's more than the old board did.

Has he actually commited this in writing? That's just paper talk as far I know.

Mitch Connor

Iago wrote:

hardly, so 2,000 wern't renewed, the waiting list is around 12,500 anyway so they'll be snapped up.

Almost 42,5000 season tickets sold already. Glazer isn't the devil here, in fact I think it's preferable to have him in charge rather than the old board. He has to be successful, and how is he going to do it? By ensuring that the team is successful, why have a problem with that?

He's going to increase ticket prices, average price of a ticket in Old Trafford at the moment is around £27. Average price of a ticket in Highbury £40, average price of a ticket in Stamford Bridge £45. According to his "leaked" plans, the price of a ticket for Old Trafford in 2010 will be around £42, again I don't see that being a particularly bad thing.

He's commited to £25M a year for transfer funds, that's more than the old board did. Give it time and you'll see the dissenting voices die off as the doom and gloom fails to materialise

i don't think Glazer will intentionally destroy United but it COULD be a side effect. Did Ridesdale intentionally put Leeds in the crapper?

A lot will happen over the next couple of months. I reckon Glazer will refinance the debts and make it more managable.

Mitch Connor

exactly - he made a point of making not assurances over anything, including transfer funds.

DamoRed

PORNAPSTER wrote:

You have got to be taking the piss.

They started it

Shouldn't they be called home counties utd?

They'll have an even longer trek to their home games than the old Wimbledon fans have now to Milton Keynes. And all for a lousy Northern Counties league game. My, oh my, there's dedication! :rolleyes:


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Damo

Draupnir

Hey Damo, why are you putting ***** LIVERPOOL 5 TIMES EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS ******* into all your posts as well as into your sig.

its getting to piss me off at this stage! congratulations and all, but i mean, its enough in your sig and is tantimount to flame baiting at this stage.

DamoRed

Awwww shucks, I forgot to take it out of that post before I added to my signature.

Hope it hasn't upset you. Too much!

Or maybe not

Damo

Draupnir

hehe, not at all, its just a bit of a sore spot being a united fan!!

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Gkelly2002 wrote:

Well if i go over to OT this year i wll not be buying anything at the ground, programes, food drink etc........

Why not?

You will already be giving money to Glazer by buying the ticket.

The Rooster

Gkelly2002 wrote:

Thats what i like to hear PHB WHEN Glazer Fails

And this comes from a ManU supporter!

You really think that would be good?

tauren wrote:

actually - near 2000 season tickets have not been renewed - Man Utd have be telling fibs with their numbers.

I think the figure was 1800 this year - instantly snapped up by those on the waiting list - compared to 1680 last year. i.e. an increase of 120, which was Pigman's point.

Draupnir

i emailed the man united ticket section last week, and they told me that no such waiting list exists just that if i was a member of the club i would be given first refusal.

anyone who wants to see the mail just let me know.

The Rooster

Whatever the ins and outs of it, I believe the fact to be that the unrenewed season tickets have all been snapped up.

I'd say it'll be a very long time before MU have trouble selling all their season tickets.

SteM

I believe the extra 120 were converted LMTBs. So if you were a LMTB holder you were give a chance to convert it to a season ticket, not really a waiting list as such.

growler

PHB wrote:

They are out to make aprofit so they can buy back United when Glazier fails.

if Glazier fails Utd is totally screwed, unlike the nice Russian lad who owns the current premiership champions and has enough loose change to cover all the club's debts, Man U is now totally indebted, if Glazier fails Utd will fail on the pitch and if Utd fail on the pitch Glazier will come closer to failure.

WhiteWashMan

im looking forward to half the clubs in the league coming ahead of utd this year, and watching the panic set into the faces of those die hard man utd supporters.

im sure most of them have already jumped ship and snapped up the latest chelsea shirt anyway.

BaZmO*

WhiteWashMan wrote:

im looking forward to half the clubs in the league coming ahead of utd this year, and watching the panic set into the faces of those die hard man utd supporters.

LOL. This coming from a Spurs supporter!

B.

WhiteWashMan

BaZmO* wrote:

LOL. This coming from a Spurs supporter!

B.

spurs do not need to make 580 million quid plus interest in the next few years

spurs have a fan base that doesnt change with the wind or the winning of the league.

suprs actually have a young squad and are a good prospect for the future.


utd have a massive massive debt.

they have a fan base that is split, or just waiting to see who wins the next league title.

utd have an ageing side. not even a decent central midfielder anymore. keano is past it. scholes doesnt want to play anymore. i dont know. i think its a team with more to lose than anyone.

oh, and did i mention that huge debt over the head?

PHB

So lets see, you've highlighted two players to be replaced.
And United have the second highest transfer budget in the country by quite a bit, its troubling times ahead.

Top 11 average age is:
26+30+26+26+25+20+29+32+20+20+28=
23.27
Thats a real aging squad.
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What evidence have you got to show that United are going to lose a large section of their supporters? I'm sure we'll lose a couple of people outside Manchester to Chelsea etc, but what have you got to suggest that a ****load of fans will leave?
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Huge debt is a problem I agree, but I honastly think Glazier will succedd, and if he does not, I am 100% sure he will have to sell the club at a cut down price of like 150/200 million which will be bought by some rich philantrophist and it'll all be ok.
Either way, he is an incredibly successful self-made man, and I think its gona be fine.

Spurs are on the up though

Jivin Turkey

PHB wrote:

Top 11 average age is:
26+30+26+26+25+20+29+32+20+20+28=
23.27
Thats a real aging squad.

Do you mean average age of Uniteds first XI?

I probably would have put it at

GK - Van Der Saar 34
RB - Neville 30
LB - Heinze 27
CB - Ferdinand 26
CB - Silvestre 27
RW - Ronaldo 20
LW - Giggs 30
CM - Keane 34
CM - Scholes 30
FW - RvN 29
FW - Rooney 20

Which is an average age of 29.72.

BaZmO*

WhiteWashMan wrote:

spurs have a fan base that doesnt change with the wind or the winning of the league.

All successful teams have that problem. Just look at the amount of Chelsea supporters knocking about this year.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

suprs actually have a young squad and are a good prospect for the future.

Good prospect for the future? Spurs have been a good prospect for the past 20 years, yet every year they fail to produce.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

suprs actually have a young squad and are a good prospect for the future.

utd have an ageing side. not even a decent central midfielder anymore. keano is past it. scholes doesnt want to play anymore. i dont know. i think its a team with more to lose than anyone.

And yet this promising young side only manage to finish 9th. 25 points behind this ageing squad.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

they have a fan base that is split, or just waiting to see who wins the next league title.

Split fanbase? A few thousand disaffected fans among one of the most widely supported clubs in the world. I wouldn't called that a fan base that is split.

WhiteWashMan wrote:

Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt. Massive Debt.

I'll give you that one.

B.

Guy:Incognito

Jivin Turkey wrote:

Do you mean average age of Uniteds first XI?

I probably would have put it at

GK - Van Der Saar 34
RB - Neville 30
LB - Heinze 27
CB - Ferdinand 26
CB - Silvestre 27
RW - Ronaldo 20
LW - Giggs 30
CM - Keane 34
CM - Scholes 30
FW - RvN 29
FW - Rooney 20

Which is an average age of 29.72.

I got 27.9

SteM

Gotta laugh at you there WhiteWashMan, you either believe the newspaper paper hype or are just on the windup.

Either way I think I can safely say that

1) The issue with United supporters is nowhere as bad as it's being made out to be (or you'd like it to be) - there's no way you'll be able to go onto ticketmaster on a Monday night and buy a match ticket for a midweek game at OT like I have at White Heart Lane many times in the past.

2) Our aging side :rolleyes: will finish in the top 3 again next season. Spurs may improve but eventually they'll loose their manager and best players to teams with real ambition as always seems to happen with them.

Jivin Turkey

Stekelly wrote:

I got 27.9

My apologies, thats what I get for using my head. However, still considerably above the 23 that was claimed earlier.

PHB

GK - Van Der Saar 34
RB - Neville 30
LB - Heinze 27
CB - Ferdinand 26
CB - Silvestre 27
RW - Ronaldo 20
LW - Giggs 30
CM - Keane 34
CM - Scholes 30
FW - RvN 29
FW - Rooney 20

When was the last time Giggs was in the starting squad?
Its Fletcher.
Also I forgot bout Van Der Saar.

GK - Van Der Saar 34
RB - Neville 30
LB - Heinze 27
CB - Ferdinand 26
CB - Silvestre 27
CM - Fletcher 20
CM - Keane 33
CM - Scholes 30
ST - RvN 29(last week)
WF - Ronaldo 20
WF - Rooney 20

Its :
26.9

And scholesy is barely in the top 11 anymore, and won't be by the end of the summer.
I'm ok with that average age, I can live with it
p.s. Howard is still really my number one, but ok.

Draupnir

you never know, fletcher might take scholes place in a lot of games with richardson going out wide and united playing 4-4-2 again. if we are lucky!!

depends on whether richardson is as good as he looked at Albion.

PHB

We are playing 4-3-3, thats how its gona be, it ain't gona revert back

KdjaCL

Gkelly2002 wrote:

Well if i go over to OT this year i wll not be buying anything at the ground, programes, food drink etc........

HAHAHHAHAHAHHA ....falls over HAHAHHAHAHHAHAH........Sides split........



AsPigman pointed out only 120 less fans bought season tickets, well done Man utd Glazer gonna give up now.


Tbh Utd fans just shouldnt sing or chant at games or generate any sort of atmosphere at all.



kdjac

PHB

Indeed kjdac, a lot of 'fight from within fans' intend to go to the match, and just watch the game, and not cheer or shout at all. They figure if they create a ****e atmosphere, it will make it less likely that the 'day trippers' will go.

DamoRed

Let's face it, they haven't been waiting for glazer to take over for there to be no atmosphere at sold trafford.

It's been like that for years!


Damo

SteM

PHB wrote:

Indeed kjdac, a lot of 'fight from within fans' intend to go to the match, and just watch the game, and not cheer or shout at all. They figure if they create a ****e atmosphere, it will make it less likely that the 'day trippers' will go.

I don't think that will happen. Most of the hardcore fans know that pulling a stunt like that will only unbalance the team on the pitch, it won't do a thing to put day trippers off going and it's won't bother Glazer. For most of them now it's a case of supporting 'the shirts' and having as little to do with the business side of things as possible.

@ DamoRed - It'd be nice if we could stop this thread from decending into the usual farce, so maybe you could keep it constructive?

DamoRed

As constructive as utd fans on Liverpool related threads!


Damo

Brian017

Liverpool fans replying to Liverpool threads and Utd fans replying to Utd threads, would solve all our problems.

SteM

Brian017 wrote:

Liverpool fans replying to Liverpool threads and Utd fans replying to Utd threads, would solve all our problems.

Well I have no problem with 'Pool fans replying to United threads and vice versa. But if someone's just going to take the p1ss without saying anything constructive then a thread will decend into slagging.

And the mentality that 'if someone else does it then it's okay for me to' doesn't help at all.

AthAnRi

DamoRed wrote:

As constructive as utd fans on Liverpool related threads!


Damo

So basically your calling yourself a hypocrite?

As for WWM calling united fans fickle, sunshine etc. As some one else stated every succesful club will have fickle supporters. Thats why united have had so many for the last 15 years and why spurs haven't had any in the last 30. If you checked your statistics you would know that united have had the highest averaged attendence in the english league since the early sixties. Another common misconception that is often labeled to united attendences is that they are made up from all corners of the UK and the World when in fact 90% of their home attendence is made up from fans that live either in manchester or within a 10 mile surrounding area.