An Bord Pleanala recognises need for broadband

Sarsfield

I don't know if this is a new thing, or if it's been the case for ages, but while checking out the details of the planning permission for the new skyscraper development for Kilmainham, I noticed that one of the conditions of the permission is that ducting for broadband is included in the development.

Is this standard or a new departure?

8. All service cables associated with the proposed development (such as electrical, communal television, telephone and public lighting cables) shall be run underground within the site. In this regard, ducting shall be provided to facilitate the provision of broadband infrastructure within the proposed development. There shall be no plant, ducting, water tanks, television aerials, satellite dishes or telephony receiving/transmission equipment erected above roof level without a further grant of planning permission.

http://www.pleanala.ie/S210196.DOC

BrianD

Delighted to see that this development is going ahead...now all they have to do is get broadband to the building!

vinnyfitz

Thanks for pointing that out Sarsfield.

The worrying thing is that the Appeals Board felt it had to condition this in.

Were the City Council "broadband blind" when they originally gave the permission for this building? This sort of thing should be automatic in the planning system and one might expect that Dublin City Council would be requiring it even if rural councils are not?

Is it the case that only buildings that get appealed to An Bord Pleanála get broadband proofed by any planners?

Sponge Bob

This is a good thing overall. Its a shame that an Bord Pleanala is having lay down policy for the Dept of the Environment which has been totally remiss in keeping the building regulations up to date.

Ducting should not be part of the appeals process, it should be a standard part of the planning process where anything over 10 housing units is proposed.

Victor

Broadband (despite their lack of understanding of it) has been recognised by councils as a requiement for some time.

Of course what the landlord / management company charge sthe tenants is of course an issue.

vinnyfitz

Victor wrote:

Broadband (despite their lack of understanding of it) has been recognised by councils as a requiement for some time.

Has it Victor? Are many local authorities conditioning this into permissions? Do you know are there guidelines from the Dept Environment on this subject?

Tom Young

Sponge Bob wrote:

This is a good thing overall. Its a shame that an Bord Pleanala is having lay down policy for the Dept of the Environment which has been totally remiss in keeping the building regulations up to date.

Ducting should not be part of the appeals process, it should be a standard part of the planning process where anything over 10 housing units is proposed.

Yes, its the DOE and the councils that are making a pigs ear of things.

Minister Dempsey could do something about it, if he worked with Cullen. There are provisions in the 2002 Acts for this type of thing. Cork was a huge problems for civils, disjoin between city and county policy.

Anyone heard of the office of the valuations commissioners? They're at a nice little rent and rates exercise for telco's. Like of eircom, BT, Vod, o2 will have to pay millions in rates per annum, if they get there way. Invest in more network ? Why bother, they'll just pay more tax.

eircomtribunal

Tom Young wrote:

Anyone heard of the office of the valuations commissioners?

http://www.valoff.ie/
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