Content Management Systems ? ?

Rollo Tamasi

Whats the best free content management system available. Preferably ASP based.

Do any of ye use any CMS on websites?

Basq

Been working with Mambo recently.... fantastic!

PHP-based!

mneylon

There are a huge number of CMS to choose from.

Our main site uses Typo3 , but it's not for the faint-hearted

A lot depends on what you are trying to achieve.
Some people even use Wordpress as a CMS , as it can be extended so easily and you can "wrap" static pages into it.

rsynnott

Here's a frighteningly bad ASP.NET one running: http://www.thedailywtf.com ; and it's commercial!

mewso

I hear good things about DotNetNuke and Rainbow, both .Net. Interesting to hear Mambo mentioned. We have it where I work and those working with it have moaned constantly about it being a nightmare. Seeing as I wouldn't touch php with a bargepole I've stayed clear. To be fair though it might have something to do with the slightly dodgy crowd providing us with so-called "enterprise" functionality for mambo which seems to just involve telling us it can't be done.

GoneShootin

I can only echo what the guys are saying about the PHP based systems such as Mambo and Typo3 -both excellent packages. I'm not an ASP person so I havent check them out. I tend to stick with the open-source systems, and what usually means PHP

mewso

GoneShootin wrote:

I tend to stick with the open-source systems, and what usually means PHP

You'll never know the joy of rapid web application development with compiled apps, caching, server contorls. Sure tis Microsoft *makes cross*.

GoneShootin

musician wrote:

You'll never know the joy of rapid web application

I like to call that COPY and PASTE

rsynnott

musician wrote:

You'll never know the joy of rapid web application development with compiled apps, caching, server contorls. Sure tis Microsoft *makes cross*.

Compiled PHP is available, if you like

mewso

I like it free.

Rollo Tamasi

I've looked up mambo, it looks the business, good support community to boot.

Do you need a web host that supports Apache to install it?
What host are you using Basquille?

The reason i'm asking is because i need to find a webhost who can provide me with about 5GB of storage and unlimited bandwidth/50 GB of transefers (or there-abouts). Yonks! A webhost that supports apache,php, mysql...ermm...all for under E350 p.a. ? ? is it possible?

mneylon

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

unlimited bandwidth.

There's no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

rsynnott

blacknight wrote:

There's no such thing as unlimited bandwidth.

Ah, but people like to believe in it, a bit like the tooth fairy and food safety enforcement. But you'll get 50gb of transfers for that money, alright. (If you really need it; are you using it at the moment?)

rsynnott

musician wrote:

I like it free.

Well, you'll end up paying more for Windows-based servers, you know... Java's best of both worlds, really (or mod_perl if you're odd; currently working with PERL a lot and can feel myself getting gradually stranger and more likely to use regexes in casual conversation).

Rollo Tamasi

am i using a web host? No, i'm looking for one thou...do you know of any decent php hosts with that kind of package (5GB/50GB transfers).
I have already had a look at www.1and1.co.uk, they seem fairly good.

rsynnott

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

am i using a web host? No, i'm looking for one thou...do you know of any decent php hosts with that kind of package (5GB/50GB transfers).
I have already had a look at www.1and1.co.uk, they seem fairly good.

But do you think you'll need that from the start? Are you going to be hosting porn or something?

Legend_Killer

rsynnott wrote:

But do you think you'll need that from the start? Are you going to be hosting porn or something?

php nuke is also an option and comes as part of the fantastico scripts if yer lucky enough for have it on your hosting package.

You never actually said what the sites purpose was though rollo?

Serbian

Legend_Killer wrote:

You never actually said what the sites purpose was though rollo?

rsynnott wrote:

Are you going to be hosting porn or something?

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hostyle

rsynnott wrote:

... currently working with PERL a lot and can feel myself getting gradually stranger and more likely to use regexes in casual conversation ...

s/PERL/Perl/gi;

welcome to the dark side

Rollo Tamasi

Its going to host music downloads from Dj's, with the average "set" at about an hour, that would be 80mb-ish, and with about a 100 or more mixes, then thats a lot of space :-)

I have looked up 1and1.co.uk again, they seem to have everything i need, very good prices also.

I might consider hosting some porn, anyone got a camcorder?

Serbian

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

Its going to host music downloads from Dj's, with the average "set" at about an hour, that would be 80mb-ish

That will be a bitch to upload with the average Broadband upload speed in Ireland.

mewso

rsynnott wrote:

Well, you'll end up paying more for Windows-based servers

One of the classic arguements like the average Joe is ordering servers on a regular basis so he should go with LAMP while in fact he probably has a home PC with windows on it. I don't own my own company so Windows Servers are not my problem. I have Windows XP on my home PC. Hosting most places I look is comparable between Linux and Windows (if you look in the right place). I'm currently on a free 3 month package with a host using Asp.Net 2. Suits me fine.

rsynnott

Free SQL Server, as well? You're not using... ACCESS, are you?

Rollo Tamasi

Serbian wrote:

That will be a bitch to upload with the average Broadband upload speed in Ireland.

Nah, i'll just use the local college's 6MB upload, why not? :cool: hehe

fragile

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

Whats the best free content management system available. Preferably ASP based.

Plone - Python based

or

drupal - PHP based

There is a good discussion of how they compare here

I am not familiar with any *free* ASP based CMSs that are as good as either of the above.

mewso

rsynnott wrote:

Free SQL Server, as well? You're not using... ACCESS, are you?

No I'm using MSDE (free development version of Sql Server) and my host then has Sql Server. Sorry to destory some of the anti-microsoft mist.

rsynnott

I'm sceptical as to the availability of large-scale webhosting with ASP.NET and SQL Server for comparable prices to an equivalent LAMP or Java server, tbh.

I know about (and have used) the free developers' one.

Anyway, you'll never convert me to a platform that doesn't even have a real command prompt!

mewso

Fair enough. I have a bias towards asp.net at the moment because it's the best technology I have used to date but I will use whatever is the best microsoft or not. I think it's non-productive to ignore microsoft.

rsynnott

SQL Server/Sybase is a decent database; it's probably the best mid-end one out there.

I've done ASP and ASP.NET(VB) maintainance, and found them fairly unpleasant for .NET and HORRIFIC for oldfashioned ASP, but if you like them, go ahead

fragile

rsynnott wrote:

Anyway, you'll never convert me to a platform that doesn't even have a real command prompt!

It may have soon...

http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/06/19/1548231.shtml?tid=201&tid=218

or in the mean time there is always Cygwin

rsynnott

Yep, I saw that. CygWin's charms have never managed to seduce me. And in any case, it's quite difficult to get anything done from the commandline in windows; you need to use GUIs (often dreadful ones; see SQL Enterprise Manager) to do everything.