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  • 23-06-2005 1:48am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭


    I have a problem that I seem to try to ignore. I dont drink that often but when I do ,I seem to always drink too much but as well I almost always do things I regret like kissing guys I shouldnt etc.
    Should I give up drinking if I cant control it?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    what you mean cant control it|? how drunk do you get?
    if you cnt stop drinking too much maybe ya should lay off a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    You could always try only bringing out enough for the amount of drinks you think you can handle, plus travel money. A couple of times doing that and you may get used to drinking in moderation.



    Failing that, you fancy going out sometime :D sorry, couldnt resist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Stekelly wrote:



    Failing that, you fancy going out sometime :D sorry, couldnt resist.

    She could be a he. A Heshe. Emm. Try not drinking as much? Its not that hard. You say mmmmm.... i think im rdinking alot. Better stop for a little while and sober up a bit. We all have to do it. Unfortunatly .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    I dunno I do try to lay off it and I can control how much I drink to a certain point but then once im tipsy Ive absolutely no control over it guys just keep offering me drinks and once im kinda drunk I just accept them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Grimes wrote:
    She could be a he. A Heshe. .


    I didnt do biology but I'm pretty sure He/She must be one or the other :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    deek wrote:
    I dunno I do try to lay off it and I can control how much I drink to a certain point but then once im tipsy Ive absolutely no control over it guys just keep offering me drinks and once im kinda drunk I just accept them.


    TBH I can't argue with that, if a girl starts offering me rinks, who am I too refuse. But unfortunately for girls it can be more serious, from a personal security point of view. If people are buying you drinks theres not much advice to be offered other than dont take it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    at least you have the cop on at 17 years of age to realise that you have a bit of a problem. took me another 6 years for me to realise it :o
    just try drinking in moderation...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Ya see I never do, not till I get tipsy an then I just will take a drink off anyone I know.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    if you know them pretty well thats ok ;)
    maybe just dont buy any drink and just accept em or have pints of water in between drinks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Its all well and good making plans to stick to,they work until about 1 o clock then guys start gettin me drink and I end up takin them and makin really stupid decisions.
    Ive tried going off drink on a night out but I went home early because the people I went out with were drinkin and I was bored outta my ****e. Does no one else finds this. Is it an earely sign of alcoholism when out of the number of times I go out(which is quite few) I end up gettin scuttered whether I planned to or not and doing really stupid stuff?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    hmmm maybe you should keep doin wat you do until you get used to the drink? might be better in the long run. if u plan on drinkin all ur life, its better u get used to drinkin sooner rather than later. of course, if the things ur doin are completely unbearable then maybe u shud not bring any money and ONLY accept drinks from strangers, that way u'll get slightly drunk but still hava solid head on ya to stop urself from gettin up to shenanigans u shouldn't be gettin up to. simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭cregser


    Just a suggestion: Try eating loads before you go out - a big dinner or something. I always find it takes me longer to get drunk that way, and usually don't over do it. The nights when I've lost control have been when I started on a near empty stomach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well im pretty tiny im only a size eight so ANYTHING gets me drunk :( So eating doesnt make a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭cregser


    Try it. For one thing you'll be too full to drink much. And it's a fact that you get less drunk when your body is too busy processing food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    by the way, its not a problem, it happens to a lot of girls.
    also, if ur hot, blokes will try get u hammered so they have a better chance at gettin stuck into u.

    ps u did say ur a girl, ye?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    The_B_Man wrote:
    hmmm maybe you should keep doin wat you do until you get used to the drink? might be better in the long run. if u plan on drinkin all ur life, its better u get used to drinkin sooner rather than later. of course, if the things ur doin are completely unbearable then maybe u shud not bring any money and ONLY accept drinks from strangers, that way u'll get slightly drunk but still hava solid head on ya to stop urself from gettin up to shenanigans u shouldn't be gettin up to. simple.
    aye. if you keep doing this, men will stop buying you drinks eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    tman, they'll keep buyin the drinks but "deek" will b able to handle the drink more.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    cregser wrote:
    And it's a fact that you get less drunk when your body is too busy processing food.
    disproven on brainiac :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well I started drinking young and Im sill not "used" to it. Yes I am a girl.Is it possible that since I dont drink that often I go more mad when I do drink?

    I also find that once a guy has bought me a drink that they do try and get off with me even if theyre far older ( I mean late twenties) or people who I always considered just friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭cregser


    disproven on brainiac :D
    Well who am I to disagree! But I am speaking from experience...

    [EDIT] Deek, are you fit? as in do you exercise alot. You said that you don't go out much, I'm guessing it could be cos you train for some sport? I found that people who are really fit get pished real easy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Basically what I wanted to know is whether this had happened to anyone else. And if these people ,who also had problems controling the amount of drink they have when theyre out, had ways of controling the amount they drink even when they get tipsy.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    deek wrote:
    Well I started drinking young and Im sill not "used" to it. Yes I am a girl.Is it possible that since I dont drink that often I go more mad when I do drink?

    I also find that once a guy has bought me a drink that they do try and get off with me even if theyre far older ( I mean late twenties) or people who I always considered just friends.
    when you dont drink for a while and go back first time i think you get drunk a lil faster or something.

    friends thing..tell em to back off.
    20's guys sound like awful people stay away!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    cregser wrote:
    Well who am I to disagree! But I am speaking from experience...
    i think that thats pschological or something..you get equally drunk but maybe a little slower i guess...
    experiance..preaching->choir :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    deek wrote:
    Basically what I wanted to know is whether this had happened to anyone else. And if these people ,who also had problems controling the amount of drink they have when theyre out, had ways of controling the amount they drink even when they get tipsy.
    i always drink too much but especially round my exams :)
    but i could stop if i wanted and have but then again some of my girl friends get drunk on like three pints so it may be harder for you to stop.but i dunno most people seem to stop when they want but when they want is always quite diff from other ppl


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well ideally Id only like to get a bit more than tipsy but yaa.... that doesnt happen :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    practice makes perfect, deek. you'll be fine....assuming your 18/19 of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well im 17 so what does that mean??


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    think shes 17,illegal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    For SHAME!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    So is the general consensus that I dont have a problem with drink then?
    Or are these early signs of a bigger problem that I'll have with drink when I have the freedom and the opportunity to drink whenever I feel like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    NO, coz you'll get used to it as you grow older and you'll be able to control & handle it better! simple as that! and if u cant, then your probably best not drinkin at all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭athena 2000


    Deek, though some of the advice here regarding eating before drinking is good, I think you do have the possible beginnings of a problem. If you can't stop drinking or accepting drinks when you want to, and you won't take personal responsibility for the amount that you drink, then you don't need to drink until you can be responsible. The fact that you're underage isn't a good sign, as far as my opinion goes.

    Some people just cannot handle alcohol no matter what they do. You may be one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well tbh I think most people in Ireland drink when theyre 17. But I feel really wary about alcohol and yet then I enjoy the relief etc. that drinking allows.

    I really hope that I will learn to control it like some people suggested I will because the prospect of being a born-again-pioneer in Ireland is incredibly daunting.

    What I really hope is that this binging is only because I mostly end up out on major drinking nights e.g grad night.Maybe once I start to go out more regularly Id be able to drink less.....agh....I dunno....

    Btw this was all sparked off by the fact that I got drunk tonight and kissed a guy who someone I knew ( not really a friend) was crazy about. She was really pissed with me and I felt so ****ty ,anyway one more person to add to the list of people I souldnt have kissed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    just smoke instead, you wont be in the mood to do anythin that way :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 682 ✭✭✭eskimo


    deek wrote:
    I have a problem that I seem to try to ignore. I dont drink that often but when I do ,I seem to always drink too much but as well I almost always do things I regret like kissing guys I shouldnt etc.
    Should I give up drinking if I cant control it?

    Are you drinking to the extent that your friends and family worry about you? Coz if you're not, then don't worry. Sexual attraction is natural and should be exploited! (to an extent)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    No because family doesnt know and friends dont realise because its not happening ever weekend.
    In saying that I do have a bit of a reputation for going overboard with drink but I think it seen more as an innocent "silly little Deirdre" thing, she hasnt learnt to handle her drink ,tbh.

    List of things Ive done while drunk
    gotten totally paralytic about 5 times
    Broken someone elses shower door off its hinges(I cant remember that) so that it couldnt be fixed
    Jumped off a garage roof onto concrete 7ft below on my ass bone so that I spent 5 days in bed unable to move
    Cheated once
    and other strange things and obviously kissing guys I shouldnt have etc etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    deek wrote:
    List of things Ive done while drunk
    gotten totally paralytic about 5 times
    Broken someone elses shower door off its hinges(I cant remember that) so that it couldnt be fixed
    Jumped off a garage roof onto concrete 7ft below on my ass bone so that I spent 5 days in bed unable to move
    Cheated once
    and other strange things and obviously kissing guys I shouldnt have etc etc etc
    congrats - you're a teenager! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    Originally Posted by deek
    List of things Ive done while drunk
    gotten totally paralytic about 5 times
    Broken someone elses shower door off its hinges(I cant remember that) so that it couldnt be fixed
    Jumped off a garage roof onto concrete 7ft below on my ass bone so that I spent 5 days in bed unable to move
    Cheated once
    and other strange things and obviously kissing guys I shouldnt have etc etc etc

    I can't believe some of the replies here. ''Yeah just keep drinking, you'll get used to it'':rolleyes:

    Deek: You're only 17 and still have a lot of growing up to do. If you go out and you can't control your drinking then that is ALREADY a problem. If you can't control yourself then just DON'T drink. Simple as.

    Awaits Irish mentality flaming:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭athena 2000


    No flames from me, I agree with you. At this point with the latest list provided, it's a little early for Deek to be vying for the lead role in "Rachel's Holiday".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭newgrange


    LundiMardi wrote:
    If you go out and you can't control your drinking then that is ALREADY a problem.

    Glad to see there is someone with a bit of sense.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well thats what I was worried about. My reasons for thinking I might have a problem can all be passed off as typical teenage(or Irish) shenanagins
    but Im just not sure if its not something more important than that.
    But then again I do have a tedancy to be neurotic about stuff so I dont know if Im blowin stuff out of proportion :o
    LundiMardi wrote:

    If you can't control yourself then just DON'T drink. Simple as.

    Its totally ridiculous to suggest its that easy to stop drinking. Its a huge decision in Irish society,your basically giving up the national past-time (look at the other thread on PI about this). If its definately what I need to do then obviously I will but I want to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    I'd say stop drinking until you grow up. There's a reason why the legal age to drink is 18


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    deek wrote:
    Well thats what I was worried about. My reasons for thinking I might have a problem can all be passed off as typical teenage(or Irish) shenanagins
    but Im just not sure if its not something more important than that.
    But then again I do have a tedancy to be neurotic about stuff so I dont know if Im blowin stuff out of proportion :o


    Its totally ridiculous to suggest its that easy to stop drinking. Its a huge decision in Irish society,your basically giving up the national past-time (look at the other thread on PI about this). If its definately what I need to do then obviously I will but I want to be sure.
    Stopping drinking is not a huge decision at all, why do you care about society? Drinking as a past time is probably the biggest thing i hate about Irish Society. It's just plain pathetic where people feel the need to get pissed to have a good time, but that's another subject.

    Deek: I was in your position, 16/17 going to all night parties getting drunk, not sleeping, puking. I wasn't mature enough to control myself then and neither are you now.

    I don't drink anymore though, well, i actually had a drink for the first time in about a year only a couple of weeks ago. The difference is, i drank because i just felt like a drink, NOT to get drunk like most Irish do. As soon as i felt the effects of the drink i stopped. It's not that hard. I probably won't have another drink for another year or 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,305 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    LundiMardi, watch out for all the 'pro Irish drinking culture' people to come out and defend social drinking and our pub culture. I have never seen one of these threads without some lads (almost always in the their teens or early twenties) coming out fighting in an attempt to defend their way of life! Drinking three or four pints five times a week isn't unusual, it's what we fought the Brits for, etc etc...

    I think the posters recommending lots to eat before going out / building up your tolerance of alcohol, while well-meaning, are misguided. Alcohol is a drug we consume for its intoxicating effect, no point pretending otherwise - why try to deaden your reaction to it? Just consume less. Which is easier said than done, as I fully understand :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    deek wrote:
    Its totally ridiculous to suggest its that easy to stop drinking.
    No it's not. Stopping drinking is really easy. If you find otherwise then something is a problem, not necessarily OMFG I HAVE A DRINK PROBLEM! but something isn't right in either your attitude to alcohol or the attitudes to alcohol in the circles you move in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    ionapaul wrote:
    LundiMardi, watch out for all the 'pro Irish drinking culture'
    The Irish don't have much of a drinking culture at all. We do have a getting drunk culture, which is different.
    ionapaul wrote:
    Alcohol is a drug we consume for its intoxicating effect, no point pretending otherwise
    Well alcohol does come in delicious Guinness and wine forms. Yummy stuff. Some people really do drink for the taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Well Im glad all of you got a a good chance to rant about the drink culture in Ireland :rolleyes: ,did I ever say that I liked it?? Christ,I just admitted it was there.

    I know a girl who has never drank and probably never will drink, she's 19 an says that she finds it really hard to be the only one not drinking when she goes out with her friends.I understand her situation more than these people who dont drink and find it "really easy". And before anyone suggests getting "better" friends,my friends are really decent people and Ive known them all for years so I dont want leave them just because Im not drinking anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    Who said anything about leaving your friends because you give up drink? that's a little OTT.

    All i'm saying that if you can't control how much you drink, then you shouldn't be drinking in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭deek


    Because every one was saying " why give a **** about what other people are doing" So I thought that if I said that it would be hard to be around other people who are drinking somebody would say "then dont go out with them"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    why would it be hard to be around them? You don't have to completely stop drinking, but if you don't learn the words 'no, i've had enough, thanks' then i would seriously recommend quitting altogether.


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