Musselburgh Today 4th July '05

scojones · 04-07-2005 10:32am #1

2.30 Gone Too Far
3.00 Aspen Falls
3.30 Platinum Charmer
5.00 Toss The Caber

My Lucky 15 for today.

bullock · 04-07-2005 11:29am

Which one would be your best tip??

masterK · 04-07-2005 1:00pm

I sure hope you're wrong sjones, I've layed both Aspen Falls and Platinum Charger, the latter for a large amount.

Platinum charger is in great form at the moment but he has shot up a hell of a lot in the weights, Patricia Philomena, Kyle Of Lochalsh and Silver Seeker are all weighted to turn around previous defeats and Celtic Carisma looks like a horse on the upgrade. All in all I'm quite happy to have layed it at 2.1/1, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it drift out a lot in the betting.
As for the winner of the race, either Patricia Philomena or Celtic Carisma.

fade2black · 04-07-2005 1:39pm

I'm with MasterK on this one, I've had a little bet on Patricia Philomena as a gift of 7 pounds, a better draw and a not so hectic schedule could play a major part today.

As for Gone too far...I backed him last week when he won very easily....I've gone for him today but i was a very long time thinking about it...I have a feeling that the 2nd favourite will be ridden a lot more positively and will get a lot closer than 4 lengths...hopefully a case of not close enough today.

Unusual for me to get involved on a monday but as Morgans would say, and this works today especially, the form of a lot of these horses, particularly the two ive backed, is there for all to see and hopefully we'll get a result out of it.

scojones · 04-07-2005 1:57pm

fade2black wrote:

Unusual for me to get involved on a monday but as Morgans would say, and this works today especially, the form of a lot of these horses, particularly the two ive backed, is there for all to see and hopefully we'll get a result out of it.

Yeah, I'm going to go change my way of doing things. I used to bet everyday... But now I'm only going to bet when the form is there for all to see, and when I really have no doubts who the winner will be. This will make for alot less betting on my part ( hopefully alot more winning ) but I plan to bet alot more cash now. I started betting a few years back, only betting on cheltenham and Royal Ascot, but I'm getting more active now. In the last year I have managed to turn 50 euro into 1800, which has drifted back to 1500 now due to some silly bets, which I aim to rule out. Even if there is only one sure win each week, which I'm sure I will manage to pick out, hitting that hard will improve my chances.

thewools · 04-07-2005 2:34pm

2.30 Gone Too Far (a 3lenght win)

Lovely got me money back that lost off 2.15.....starting okish!!!!

scojones · 04-07-2005 2:48pm

Excellent

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 2:54pm

masterK wrote:

As for the winner of the race, either Patricia Philomena or Celtic Carisma.

Celtic is 7/1 do u think its a very nice safe ew bet ?

thewools · 04-07-2005 3:06pm

3.00 Musselburgh
1st 4 Welcome Approach 66-1
2nd 7 Our Sheila 10-1
3rd 8 Rothesay Dancer 2-1 F

Good idea laying Aspen Falls....no were in sight!!!

66/1 winner..... :eek: :eek:

Looks like a day for the outsiders...GODAM MONDAYS!!!! :mad:

bullock · 04-07-2005 3:08pm

My Boylesports account is not too happy!!!! :mad: :mad: i doesn't like Mondays either!!!!!

masterK · 04-07-2005 3:08pm

blahblah06 wrote:

Celtic is 7/1 do u think its a very nice safe ew bet ?

A safe EW bet? I don't think there is such a thing. It definitely has a chance though, it has only ever ran once of this distance and won. I think you'll probably do better than 7/1 if you wait for SP.

scojones · 04-07-2005 3:09pm

wooly69 wrote:

Good idea laying Aspen Falls....no were in sight!!!

No need to be a smart ass. You're new here, so you get away with that one.

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 3:11pm

bullock wrote:

My Boylesports account is not too happy!!!! :mad: :mad: i doesn't like Mondays either!!!!!

haha you mean your boylesports is very happy with all the money there getting from ya

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 3:11pm

masterK wrote:

A safe EW bet? I don't think there is such a thing. It definitely has a chance though, it has only ever ran once of this distance and won. I think you'll probably do better than 7/1 if you wait for SP.

well what would u do good surprise or celtic... planning on doing 50 ew like

scojones · 04-07-2005 3:14pm

blahblah06 wrote:

well what would u do good surprise or celtic... planning on doing 50 ew like

If you can't pick them apart, then do both of them, maybe 25e/w on both of them? Really though, I would never bet that much if I didn't know what I was doing.

masterK · 04-07-2005 3:14pm

I'd probably wait and see if Good Surprise is being backed later, it's 6/1. If it goes into 4/1 or 7/2 it would should show it's fancied and might be worth a bet. Interim Payment also looks a good bet in the next at Bath.

bullock · 04-07-2005 3:14pm

THats a risky bet! Especially on a Monday!!!!

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 3:19pm

masterK wrote:

I'd probably wait and see if Good Surprise is being backed later, it's 6/1. If it goes into 4/1 or 7/2 it would should show it's fancied and might be worth a bet. Interim Payment also looks a good bet in the next at Bath.

You seemed more interesed in Good Surprise in your last posts? whats changed. at 6/1 surely its well worth it ?

masterK · 04-07-2005 3:26pm

Nothing has changed, you always have to be cautious about a horse that has not run in over a year. It's hard to know how fit it is, some horses run very well fresh, but most horses generally need to have a race or two in order to reach peak fitness. That's why I am saying to watch the betting, if the money is on it then that is a good indication of it's fitness, if it drifts out then it is worth avoiding.

Did you take my advise on Interim Payment?

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 3:27pm

masterK wrote:

Nothing has changed, you always have to be cautious about a horse that has not run in over a year. It's hard to know how fit it is, some horses run very well fresh, but most horses generally need to have a race or two in order to reach peak fitness. That's why I am saying to watch the betting, if the money is on it then that is a good indication of it's fitness, if it drifts out then it is worth avoiding.

Did you take my advise on Interim Payment?

ah i know what you mean. no mate i was o late. but i took ur advice on the next. philo and celtic

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 3:31pm

Kyle Of Lochalsh 5/1
Patricia Philom 4/1
Platinum Charmer 5/2

at least i get my bet back haha

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 5:59pm

wow if he was your fav and came 3rd i doubt ill back this other one

scojones · 04-07-2005 7:23pm

Two winners on the lucky 15, not so bad. Toss the caber won at 8/1. A great price tbh.

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 7:29pm

The Player 7.35 Windsor 6/1

bullock · 04-07-2005 7:47pm

That horse came nowhere. I've a bet for tomorrow morning. I know its nothing to do with Horses but I think Auckland to beat the Lions at 5/4 is a good bet.

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 7:50pm

he came 3rd mate.. i have two more bets coming 7.55 ripon halla san

8.05 windor Alrafid

wait and see

bullock · 04-07-2005 7:54pm

Ok man. I thrust you with these then. 5 bills each way gone on each.

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 7:59pm

HAHAHA sorry mate but for some reason i keep winning with the horses that i dont place. i got 3rd place on the 18/1 with jus waz. and 2nd for jaafi. windsor should win so no probs there. if you have msn pm me your address

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:02pm

what was the result of Ripon???

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:03pm

7.55 - Ripon
1st: 5 Torrens (IRE) 4-1
2nd: 6 Jaafi (IRE) 7-2 F
3rd: 8 Just Waz (USA) 14-1

go here

http://www.horse-results.co.uk/

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:04pm

Thanks Blahblah06

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:06pm

oops no probs but i am having a losing streak after my huge win earlier

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:08pm

hope your tip for Windsor comes off.

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:09pm

LOL it didnt. had a brutal start. dont back big on bets mate i only did 2.50 ew on them. you gotta learn the horses

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:11pm

We'll get it right next race ..... What about Roscommon???

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:12pm

i have the jesuit 2/1 do a small bet.

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:13pm

**** ... Missed it!!!!

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:15pm

haha result aint in yet may have been a good thing

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:16pm

I'm going to call a Bluff in Ripon .... 2euro ew on a horse named Bluff!!!!

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:18pm

NO Tyrone Sam or Ryedane

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:21pm

no Chance!!!!

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:22pm

we shall see.

my choices. the two above and missperon 8/1

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:23pm

**** sake .... You'll have them all backed!!!!

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:25pm

hahaha i suck tonight

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:27pm

who won??

blahblah06 · 04-07-2005 8:28pm

use the site

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:33pm

enough racing for me tonight ... just stuck 36Euro on Rockocko to score first try in tomorrows match.

fade2black · 04-07-2005 8:46pm

Oh dear.

bullock · 04-07-2005 8:48pm

is that good or Bad ..... Got him at 10/1!!!!

fade2black · 04-07-2005 8:52pm

Could be good or could be bad Bullock, I don't really know but it seems like a lot of money to put on that kind of bet. Then again I don't know what kind of bank you're playing with. Good luck with it anyway.

bullock · 04-07-2005 9:00pm

Guess I'll know tomorrow. But 20 into my account and earned that with some tips from you guys. Descided I'd go for the Kill.

Musselburgh Today 4th July '05

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