Gerrard hands in transfer request

jank

Well at least the big summer story is over and wont wreck our heads for the ext 2 months. The only clubs that can afford him are

Chelsea (32 million rejected)
Barca (37 million reported to be offered)
Madrid (Keen interest to be had)
Utd ( Seems to be out of their league already cause of the price on this head)

Think he will go abroad myself. It will be interesting who liverpool get now that they will have more money to spend. Im suer rafa has thought this out

super_furry

Let the greedy judas bastard go. He hasn't done it on the pitch on a consistant basis for near on two years now, instead only turning up for 45 minutes in the big games. The player has just captained his hometown club to the biggest price in club football and it's still not enough? Shows the kind of money-grabbing scumbag he is.

super_furry

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Wouldn't worry too much about losing Gerrard if I was a Liverpool supporter, Xabi Alonso is their best midfielder anyway. I'd sell him for as much as possible and then buy a real midfielder that isn't hyped up to the last by the British media.

Exactly. The thing that people forget is that Alonso was bought as Gerrard's replacement when the scumbag said he was joining Chelsea last season. I'd have Ballack, Gattuso (unlikely) or Essien over him anyday.

colster

super_furry wrote:

Exactly. The thing that people forget is that Alonso was bought as Gerrard's replacement when the scumbag said he was joining Chelsea last season. I'd have Ballack, Gattuso (unlikely) or Essien over him anyday.

no more a scumbag than the lads who threatened his family last year to stop him moving to Chelsea.
He's not a slave. He should be allowed go and leave it at that. Liverpool will be well compensated for him.
35m+ is huge compensation for a player who is not even in the top 3 central midfielders in the Premiership and is about twice the amount that Barcelona paid for Ronaldinho.

Villain

Just to clarify here people I don't believe he has handed in a formal transfer request as that would cut his money from any transfer, by simply refusing to sign he is in a sense handing in a request but not officially.

super_furry

colster wrote:

no more a scumbag than the lads who threatened his family last year to stop him moving to Chelsea.

That was bull**** published by the Chelsea loving Daily Mail. His family were never threatened.

scuba steve

I cant believe hes leavin the kop

colster

super_furry wrote:

That was bull**** published by the Chelsea loving Daily Mail. His family were never threatened.

So what changed his mind then?

super_furry

Rafael Benitez and his family pleading with him to stay because it was the right thing to do. Gerrard himself came out and said that no-one had been threatened.

Jivin Turkey

Its a bit disappointing to see all the venom directed at Gerrard. Yes, Im somewhat disappointed he is leaving. At the same time I look forward with optimism. £30M+ is a lot of money and Im eager to see what RB can do with it.

Gerrard has done so much for the club. Without him we would not have won the CL last year. In fact we wouldnt have even have competed in it. He single handedly guided Liverpool to fourth place in the 03/04 season with phenomenal performances week in week out in the second half of the season which allowed them to enter the thing in the first place!

Then he turned in a few great performances, and scored some vital goals, and culminated it all by being the most influential figure in the second half turn around in the final of the competition.

For all the people who are claiming he is leaving for money where is your proof? Has he been offered a contract yet by someone else? No. He has turned down the contract which he requested last week, will he stay if they offer him more money? No. Its nothing to do with money.

He is leaving because he doesnt think he has the chance to lift a league title at Liverpool in the short term. Unfortunately a footballing career is a short term one so these goals must be realised. It was the same scenario with Owen. Both players suffered years of mediocrity at Liverpool and felt at a point in their career it was time to make a change, however unpopular that decision may be.

Now Im not saying I fully agree with his decision. It could have been handled far better. To be honest I cant fathom why he even stayed last year, if he wanted Benetiz to prove to him that he was the man to take Liverpool to the PL title Im sure winning the CL was an indication of that. What more did he expect RB to deliver in his first year?

If Liverpool fans claim that they have a chance of breaking into the top three this year, yet alone winning the league, they get laughed at on this board. Im sure the same would apply to two years time. These are things that Gerrard has faced up to. He doesnt think (although I dont agree with him )that LFC can win the league within two years, thats why hes decided to move on.

So goodbye SG. Ill remember some of the matches fondly. I trust you will make the right decision and go abroad. Ill treasure seeing you lift the CL. Im sure when this transfer hype disappears over you that you will show the doubters the true capacity of your abilities.

As for what will Liverpool do now?

Michael Ballack should be bought. Automatic replacement. Sublime player. Available for £10-15M.

A new central defender, £10M. Someone serious, not some unknown with potential.

Two further players for £10M. A replacement/successor for Hamann, and cover at full back would be my choice.

Maybe breaking into the top three isnt so far off after all Stevie?

TheMonster

irish1 wrote:

Just to clarify here people I don't believe he has handed in a formal transfer request as that would cut his money from any transfer, by simply refusing to sign he is in a sense handing in a request but not officially.

thats exactly what he is doing - they can choose to keep him and watch his value drop or place him on the transfer list - where he gets a cut of the transfer.

~Rebel~

irish1 wrote:

Just to clarify here people I don't believe he has handed in a formal transfer request as that would cut his money from any transfer, by simply refusing to sign he is in a sense handing in a request but not officially.

how would that make any difference if theres more then one club bidding? they still have to bid more then each other to get him and obviously chelsea have no probs with the 32mill bid so thats the current benchmark unless barca's reported one is true of 37mill, either way whatever way he leaves thats the min we'll get so how does it matter?

<edit> ah sorry i misunderstood ur message, so if he's transfer listed by the club he gets some of the money spent on him? what % will actually get to him and what to Liverpool after it all?

Jivin Turkey

TheMonster wrote:

thats exactly what he is doing - they can choose to keep him and watch his value drop or place him on the transfer list - where he gets a cut of the transfer.

Chelsea have set the bench mark with a £32M bid. Barcelona have reportedly upped that to £37M, he has not yet officially handed in his request yet I see his value increasing?

But I understand you just need to feel validated by posting this to vent some of your anti-Liverpool propaganda. I mean who cares if he even gets 10% of the fee. Liverpool will still get over £30M. What is your point here?

colster

super_furry wrote:

Rafael Benitez and his family pleading with him to stay because it was the right thing to do. Gerrard himself came out and said that no-one had been threatened.

If that's the case I stand corrected. It still doesn't excuse people calling him a scumbag.

applehunter

Hes not worth £32 million so its good business for Liverpool.

Poor Steven was only offered 100k a week to play for his boyhood club. God bless the poor thing.

scuba steve

Come on Glazers and make a bid for Stevie

Kingp35

Jivin Turkey wrote:

Michael Ballack should be bought. Automatic replacement. Sublime player. Available for £10-15M.

No offence Jivin but I have to laugh at comments like this. Your basically saying that just because Liverpool have a bit of money they can pick and choose who they want.

Ballack will not go to Liverpool. Why would he? I know Liverpool are Eurpoean champions but realistically it would be a step down for him and to move away from the top club in germany just before the world cup is held there would be a disaster for him. He would be slated in the media. Absolutley zero chance of Liverpool signing Ballack.

On another note I dont think he is leaving because of money. He is leaving to achieve domestic success which he realises he wont achieve with Liverpool. I cant really blame him. As it was said a football career is hort and he wants win a lot of trophies which he wont do with Liverpool in the premiership. Wish him luck and take the £35m. That is way too much money for Gerrard so be delighted you are getting it

SteM

scuba steve wrote:

Come on Glazers and make a bid for Stevie

You kidding me? Hand £32m over to the 'pool for him? :rolleyes: There's better value to be had out there.

StickyMcGinty

what can i say. disloyal bast*ard.

at least we'll get 32+ million for him, and yes he is worth that much. second best midfielder nin the premiership, and look at his age too.

think before you talk sh1te

colster

VinnyL wrote:

what can i say. disloyal bast*ard.

at least we'll get 32+ million for him, and yes he is worth that much. second best midfielder nin the premiership, and look at his age too.

think before you talk sh1te

Second best. He's not even in the top 3.

PHB

Well this has really made my day for a couple of reasons.

A. Liverpool have lost their best player and even though they can buy 3 new players, the real ****ness of some of the players in the squad will come to show without their talisman at the helm. That said, I expect Rafa to buy 4 semi decent players for 10 mill, and to have a decent squad for next season. I still however think its a step backwards, and when you can't keep your best players what message does that send to players like Carragher and soon to be best player Cisse

B. Chelsea will hopefully get the player, and Mourinho will play him lots. Tiago is a **** to play against and I'll be happy to see him on the bench hopefully. It also means that Chelsea will be out of the market for a midfielder, so we can get Essien for a proper price of 15 mill, or whoever, either way, they are out of the market thus prices will be normal.

C. Man United have a chance of getting him. I figure a bid will be put into him, and I'd love to see him in a United shot. I don't expect it, but hey it'd be cool. If the Glaziers are serious about winning over the fans, this is the one move in the entire world which would do it in a second. That said, I doubt it very much.

D. If Real get him he'll be away in Spain, and I won't have to watch him play. p.s. I always hated watching him play, hate seeing a Liverpool player do well

StickyMcGinty

keano - past it
viera - past it
lampard - 1st
gerrard - 2nd

thats my take on it. deffo worth 35 million anyway, and if rio was worth 30 then he is DEFINATELY worth more

SteM

VinnyL wrote:

what can i say. disloyal bast*ard.

at least we'll get 32+ million for him, and yes he is worth that much. second best midfielder nin the premiership, and look at his age too.

think before you talk sh1te

Second best midfielder last season my arse. Maybe you should look at your own advice there.

Edit: I think it's generally accepted that £30m was way over the odds for Rio so no, he wasn't worth that imo. Just because he's English the media have built Gerrard up to be worth something that he's not.

And if you think Viera's past it at the age of 28 then you're nuts.

LizardKing

PHB wrote:

Well this has really made my day for a couple of reasons.

A. Liverpool have lost their best player and even though they can buy 3 new players, the real ****ness of some of the players in the squad will come to show without their talisman at the helm. That said, I expect Rafa to buy 4 semi decent players for 10 mill, and to have a decent squad for next season. I still however think its a step backwards, and when you can't keep your best players what message does that send to players like Carragher and soon to be best player Cisse

B. Chelsea will hopefully get the player, and Mourinho will play him lots. Tiago is a **** to play against and I'll be happy to see him on the bench hopefully. It also means that Chelsea will be out of the market for a midfielder, so we can get Essien for a proper price of 15 mill, or whoever, either way, they are out of the market thus prices will be normal.

C. Man United have a chance of getting him. I figure a bid will be put into him, and I'd love to see him in a United shot. I don't expect it, but hey it'd be cool. If the Glaziers are serious about winning over the fans, this is the one move in the entire world which would do it in a second. That said, I doubt it very much.

D. If Real get him he'll be away in Spain, and I won't have to watch him play. p.s. I always hated watching him play, hate seeing a Liverpool player do well

Serious chip on your shoulder there matey ... BTW ..
A) last seasons best player was Carragher ,
Don't "think" he'll go to another prem club (IMO) ,
C) Man U have NO F*CKIN chance of gettin him ,
D) If he goes to Spain you'll still hear/see loads about him in Press

Jivin Turkey

Kingp35 wrote:

No offence Jivin but I have to laugh at comments like this. Your basically saying that just because Liverpool have a bit of money they can pick and choose who they want.

No Im saying that

because Ballack has only one year to go on his contract that BM are considering selling him,

because he is at an stage of his career that he is considering a new challenge,

because he has already won everything in Germany,

because he is in fact keen to move.

because Liverpool are a prestigious club,

because Liverpool have enough money to buy/pay him,

because Liverpool are European Champions,

because Liverpool already have a German conection,

because Liverpool have signed players from bigger clubs than BM,

because Liverpool have won the signature of hotter properties than Michael Ballack,

because the English league is a step up from the German league,

because the English league would suit Ballacks style of play,

amongst a few other reasons, that he might consider joining Liverpool.

Kingp35 wrote:

Ballack will not go to Liverpool. Why would he? I know Liverpool are Eurpoean champions

Yes a top European club.

Kingp35 wrote:

but realistically it would be a step down for him and to move away from the top club in germany just before the world cup is held there would be a disaster for him. He would be slated in the media. Absolutley zero chance of Liverpool signing Ballack.

"Realistically" the same loyalty is not applied to the German league/national team that there is as regards Italy. Many German internationals play outside Germany, so it would not be a "disaster" for him before the World Cup. He is their captain anyway and guaranteed a place regardless.

He would be slated in the media? Like the whole Bayern team dont anyway? Ever hear of Club Hollywood?

colster

VinnyL wrote:

keano - past it
viera - past it
lampard - 1st
gerrard - 2nd

thats my take on it. deffo worth 35 million anyway, and if rio was worth 30 then he is DEFINATELY worth more

Both Keano and Vieira outplayed him last season. Lampard and Makelele are also better.
When has been dominant/controlled a game against any of the above?
Answer: Never.

PHB

Transfer value isn't just about playing ability these days.

Whether Keano or Vieira is past is is a different issue, fact of the matter is last season they were better thorughout the year than Gerrard was.
Lampard was certainly better
Makelele was certainly better
Graveson was definally better
Fabregas was better over the year imo.

Gerrards transfer value comes froom a couple of things.

- Current playing ability
- Potential playing ability, isn't even in his prime yet
- Probable future England Captain
- Young young age for a CM
- CL final preformance, is clearly a game winner
- 3 years left on contract
- Captain of another club
- Doesnt want to **** over the other club

Thats why he is definally worth 30 million

StickyMcGinty

SteM wrote:

Second best midfielder last season my arse. Maybe you should look at your own advice there.

overall he is in my opinion the second best midfielder in the prem, instead of asking me to "take my own advice", why dont you suggest someone better?

age is a big factor to take in to account when pricing him!

international regular, just won the champions league as captain, playing for liverpool a top european club, etc etc.

Keane played how many games last season? he is on his way down hill, he put in some good performances but not many. and united didnt win anything either.

mike65

Ho hum.

So he goes and life carries on funnily enough. While I'm a little suprised if he's hearts really not in it then fine go and go now. With any luck a genuine bidding war will develope between Chelsea Real Madrid and possibly one or two others.

As for a replacement, well call me a conspiracy theorist but I wonder would Ged fancy doing his old club a favour by steering Essien in our direction. Chelsea dont need him.

Sure, it'll all come out in the wash.

Mike.

colster

VinnyL wrote:

overall he is in my opinion the second best midfielder in the prem, instead of asking me to "take my own advice", why dont you suggest someone better?

Look at the other messages there were about 5/6 mentioned.

StickyMcGinty

yea wan typin my post when they were posted! sorry!

Jivin Turkey

colster wrote:

Both Keano and Vieira outplayed him last season. Lampard and Makelele are also better.
When has been dominant/controlled a game against any of the above?
Answer: Never.

Not true.

Gerrard has delivered some immaculate performances in particular against United and Arsenal. When he plays well Liverpool tend to win. And last season aside they have a very good record against the two clubs in recent years.

emc2

He could have the same effect as rooney leaving everton had for them.

As for Keano outplaying him last year, I think that's rubbish United had to revert to 5 in midfield so that someone to do keano's leg work.

colster

Jivin Turkey wrote:

Not true.

Gerrard has delivered some immaculate performances in particular against United and Arsenal. When he plays well Liverpool tend to win. And last season aside they have a very good record against the two clubs in recent years.

I have to disagree there. He's very rarely been able to match Keane or Vieira.
Gerrard doesn't have the discipline to be a top class central midfielder. He is more suited to a free role where he can run around without responsibility.
Take the CL final in the first half himself and Alonso couldn't match Gattuso et al.
2nd half Hammann is brought on and Gerrard is moved to a freer role.

Gerrard is nowhere near the standard of Keane and Vieira at their prime. He has time but I can't see him getting there.

StickyMcGinty

give him time... keane was a bit rough round the edges when he was younger too.

i'm sure he'll be a superb player whereever he goes. i'm just bitterly disappointed.

emc2

colster wrote:

Gerrard is nowhere near the standard of Keane and Vieira at their prime. He has time but I can't see him getting there.

In there prime the players mentioned were excellent but keano is no longer in his prime.
Also to compare Keane and vieira type player with gerrard is difficult as they both have differnet styles of play.

Given the choice today of having Gerrard or Keane I would choose Gerrard.

SteM

VinnyL wrote:

overall he is in my opinion the second best midfielder in the prem, instead of asking me to "take my own advice", why dont you suggest someone better?

age is a big factor to take in to account when pricing him!

international regular, just won the champions league as captain, playing for liverpool a top european club, etc etc.

Keane played how many games last season? he is on his way down hill, he put in some good performances but not many. and united didnt win anything either.

To be honest I don't know why I even bothered replying to you at all after the rubbish you posted about Viera and I don't see any point in posting better midfielders as others here have done that already. I notice you've not got much to say about their suggestions.

Why are you even bringing up Keane, no one else has? To answer your question though, in the premiership last season

http://www.soccer-stats.com/teams/player_roll_call.asp?divno=1&code=l
Steven Gerrard - 28+2

http://www.soccer-stats.com/teams/player_roll_call.asp?divno=1&code=mu
Roy Keane - 28+3

How are you justifying you comments about Viera being past it btw?

Big Ears

emc2 wrote:

In there prime the players mentioned were excellent but keano is no longer in his prime.
Also to compare Keane and vieira type player with gerrard is difficult as they both have differnet styles of play.

Given the choice today of having Gerrard or Keane I would choose Gerrard.

:eek: really you'd chose a young up and coming top class midfielder over an old top class midfielder who has one or two seasons left , is on the way down and can't play that many games ? :rolleyes:

PHB

Vieira is still in his prime and imo is the best midfielder in the premiership atm.
He is like 29!

p.s. I'd also choose Gerrard over Keano right now, but for next season, I'd rather Keano in my squad.
Keano played a ****load of games this year, and matched Gerrard in games played I'd say.

Pepe LeFrits

**** sake, I was hoping he'd stay at Liverpool. Rafa could do a lot with £30m+, while spending that cash isn't going to hurt Chelsea or Real Madrid. I don't rate him that highly either, he'll improve any team he goes to but Liverpool will improve a LOT more with the money they'll get for him.

Maybe not next season, but the premiership is headed towards being a four-horse race...

Jivin Turkey

colster wrote:

I have to disagree there. He's very rarely been able to match Keane or Vieira.

He was more than a match for Vieira this year at Anfield. He has also matched Keane on numerous occassions in the past. At OT last year, and in the CC final of 2003 are two notable times that I can think of off the top of my head.

colster wrote:

Gerrard doesn't have the discipline to be a top class central midfielder. He is more suited to a free role where he can run around without responsibility.

Take the CL final in the first half himself and Alonso couldn't match Gattuso et al. 2nd half Hammann is brought on and Gerrard is moved to a freer role.

No he is a box to box player. And would work the best with a similar player beside him. Keane and Ince being the best example of such a combination.

colster wrote:

Gerrard is nowhere near the standard of Keane and Vieira at their prime. He has time but I can't see him getting there.

Thats a bold statement. Gerrard by his own admission has been inconsistent this year. But he sighted uncertainties over his future as the reason. Im sure once he is settled again you will begin to see a more consistent SG.

One thing is for sure, at Gerrards age neither Keane or Vieira were giving such dominating one man performances like he has done for the past three years (he has been doing it since 21 before the age Keane even signed for United). They may have performed more consistently over longer periods, but Gerrard has shown enough glimpses that he can eclipse both of them once settled and happy. He is still 3 years short of his prime.

SteM

kaids wrote:

**** sake, I was hoping he'd stay at Liverpool. Rafa could do a lot with £30m+, while spending that cash isn't going to hurt Chelsea or Real Madrid. I don't rate him that highly either, he'll improve any team he goes to but Liverpool will improve a LOT more with the money they'll get for him.

Yeah, I'd agree with you 100% there kaids.

Johnny_the_fox

**** him.

jank

Gerrard better then Vieira!

Come on dont listen to the english media.

Vieira admitted that he didnt have the best of season's last season but before that he was immaculate, something gerrard aspired to being. There has'nt been much of talk about vieira this summer and im sure that will help him be back to his majestic best.

Kaids is spot on. Im more worried about what rafa will do with the money he gets than if gerrard goes to Chelsea

colster

Jivin Turkey wrote:

He was more than a match for Vieira this year at Anfield. He has also matched Keane on numerous occassions in the past. At OT last year, and in the CC final of 2003 are two notable times that I can think of off the top of my head.


No he is a box to box player. And would work the best with a similar player beside him. Keane and Ince being the best example of such a combination.


Thats a bold statement. Gerrard by his own admission has been inconsistent this year. But he sighted uncertainties over his future as the reason. Im sure once he is settled again you will begin to see a more consistent SG.

One thing is for sure, at Gerrards age neither Keane or Vieira were giving such dominating one man performances like he has done for the past three years (he has been doing it since 21 before the age Keane even signed for United). They may have performed more consistently over longer periods, but Gerrard has shown enough glimpses that he can eclipse both of them once settled and happy. He is still 3 years short of his prime.

Gerrard is not a box to box player. He runs about a lot but I rarely have ever seen him making the amount of clearances in defense that Keane or Vieira have done. Gerrard cannot control a game. Gerrard does the fancy stuff well but doesn't do the donkey work. He invariably goes for the 35 yard pass rather than keeping it simple, or long shots.
He doesn't know how to pace a game. Alonso is much better than Gerrard in that respect.
He just doesn't have the discipline.

cregser

KdjaC wrote:

Gerrard hands in transfer request

No he hasn't, yet. Officially, he has merely rejected a contract. Liverpool won't sell him untill he hands in an official transfer request, and Real will make an offer expecting first bite of the cherry. When I read this I thought Liverpool were just trying to stir up the fans to convince Stevie to stay. But then I read this and it seems he does want to go.

But it makes no sense. As a Liverpool fan I feel we're on the cusp of golden age under Rafa Benitez. Look at the players that are arriving at Liverpool. Even the players talking about being flattered at links to Liverpool. Gerrard leaving sends a message to everyone that Liverpool is not the place to be. No Liverpool fan want to convey this to the world.

Owen left and what happened to his career? In one season he had to prove himself to 2 or 3 new coaches. Sat on the bench most of the season. And won nothing (with a memorable trouncing by Barcelona at the Bernabeu). Gerrard stayed and won the CL under an influential manager that only criticised him when he doubted himself (saying 'Pool couldn't win the CL).

Other than the millions he and his agent will make from a transfer, WHAT are his motivations? Is he pissed off that Rick Parry went on holidays for 2 weeks after the CL? Because Steve himself went on holidays when Parry came back. The last 5/6 weeks seem to be his main problem. The dealings with Smicer and Hamann were ongoing processes from before the CL final. It was GERRARD that wanted to stall talks till the summer.

And now he rejects an improved contract.

Please don't let him leave over misunderstandings and football politics.

But TBH, I have more faith in Rafa with £30mil than Gerrard with a new contract.

Jivin Turkey

colster wrote:

Gerrard is not a box to box player. He runs about a lot but I rarely have ever seen him making the amount of clearances in defense that Keane or Vieira have done. Gerrard cannot control a game.

If you think all of the above I doubt you have watched him play that much.
This is the first year that Gerrard was ever considered in this "free role".

He is an out and out all energy box to box player. Whatever team he goes to he will be a box to box midfielder.

He was deployed in this "free role" (all the rage I know) due to Liverpools squad constraints.

I have seen him first hand literally destroy teams on his own, putting goals on platters for his team mates. If thats not controlling games I dont know what is.

colster wrote:

Gerrard does the fancy stuff well but doesn't do the donkey work. He invariably goes for the 35 yard pass rather than keeping it simple, or long shots.
He doesn't know how to pace a game. Alonso is much better than Gerrard in that respect.

I agree with all of the above. But these will come in time.

colster wrote:

He just doesn't have the discipline.

He is too young to have it. Neither did Keane nor Vieira at his age.

Chucky the tree

Its for the money. He has won every trophy possible with liverpool, bar the Pl, how many CHelsea, united or arsenal players can say that?

If he wants the Pl title the most and moves to chelsea, understandable. But if he goes to madrid then he has no excuse.

I'll gladly take the money. Carra has captian aswell fingers crossed, should of been him last year.

wheres me jumpa

Chucky the tree wrote:

Its for the money. He has won every trophy possible with liverpool, bar the Pl, how many CHelsea, united or arsenal players can say that?

keane, scholes, neville x 2, giggs!

as a football fan, this story saddens me, teams have always had their homegrown true blue(excuse the pun) players that added a certain passion to the game. gerrard was a textbook case, similar to beckham.

unfortunately this element of the game seems to be fading out. and in this case, i think this is a huge blow for the pool. i think he has the potential to be the best midfielder in the prem, but at times he has dissappointed me this year.

regardless of his ability his departure casts a huge shaddow over liverpool. only a fe days ago as european champs they could expect to attract really big players, but now im not so sure. gerrard was by far the biggest name at anfield.

The General

Davey Devil wrote:

W*nker. I'm not a Liverpool supporter but I'm really annoyed that a player could do this to his hometown club. There's no loyalty left in football. I hope Liverpool fans make his life a misery from now on.

:rolleyes: Don't be stupid he wants to make his career the best he can and if he stays with liverpool he can't, they are holding him back. I doubt he's leaving just because of money, look at alan shearer one of englands greatest players what has he achieved