Chorus info/update on Powernet

yankinlk

Thought I would get the ball rolling in this forum by posting a chorus update.

Two months gone and im still thrilled with the chorus/multichannel service. Im in limerick and i can see keeper hill, so i get their 24-hour always on 512k (120kbps download) internet service.

This involves an antenna on the roof (thats why u need line of sight with keeper hill, no trees please) and a cable modem next to your PC with network card.

Costs are 150 to install plus 50 for software/cable tuning from 3rd party supplier. 40£ per month inclusive of VAT with a 12 month contract.

ping info: not stable to irish servers yet (hear they will sort that soon enough) around 100-150

ping to uk servers is very stable at 50 - 70.

now and again you get the old jump in net_graph when playing CS or whatever, maybe due to someone nearby surfing/dl porn/whatever but for the most part when shes running smooth shes running sweet.

there is a 3gb dl limit per month which is the hot topic blocker for most but ill leave that to you, doesnt affect me at all - and ive used it without even thinking about that limit with no problems (installed redhat linux once 500mb in an hour across the net!!!)

l8r

chernobyl

to be honest mate, thats nothing new.
Chorus service is only available in Limerick and although its good for surfing and multiplayer games i can woop your ass on downloads.
but good for you (that you can get it).

i dont think line of sight is even enough for wireless.apparently radio waves do not travel in straight lines, they defract. so even if you can see the tower, it may not be enough.

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irishguy

i have powernet 2 it kicks ass at the moment but when it is launched nationwide it will be slow and 1 of the chorus techs said they cant moniter ur d/l at the moment but they will b able 2 moniter it witin a few months

yankinlk

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chernobyl:
to be honest mate, thats nothing new.
Chorus service is only available in Limerick and although its good for surfing and multiplayer games i can woop your ass on downloads.
but good for you (that you can get it).

i dont think line of sight is even enough for wireless.apparently radio waves do not travel in straight lines, they defract. so even if you can see the tower, it may not be enough.

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i certainly didnt post it as "something new" but as i have recieved numerous emails on what the service is like...i thought i would humbly do my bit to provide the info in a suitable place...

the fact you can kick my ass in d/l doesnt really provide anyone with any real knowledge other than to stroke your own ego...if you want to be helpful why not offer others info on your ass-kicking connection so we all can be jealous...this is the place to post it no? but please, put your ass-kicking connection in other thread, dont steal mine.

chernobyl

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yankinlk:
i certainly didnt post it as "something new" but as i have recieved numerous emails on what the service is like...i thought i would humbly do my bit to provide the info in a suitable place...

the fact you can kick my ass in d/l doesnt really provide anyone with any real knowledge other than to stroke your own ego...if you want to be helpful why not offer others info on your ass-kicking connection so we all can be jealous...this is the place to post it no? but please, put your ass-kicking connection in other thread, dont steal mine. </font>

you said it was an update for fu< sake.
And if you wanna get *****y with me, do it somewhere else than these boards.
And yes its all about ego when it comes to downloads, you even posted what you can get??.

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yankinlk

didnt i tell u to get another thread? be gone.

The Cigarette Smoking Man

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yankinlk:
ping info: not stable to irish servers yet (hear they will sort that soon enough) around 100-150

ping to uk servers is very stable at 50 - 70.
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Sounds like they don't have proper peering arangements with the INEX. Another company has recently taken over running it and they are doubling the capacity and upgrading to gigabit ethernet, so those issues should be resolved soon (hopefully).

Nietzschean

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by irishguy:
i have powernet 2 it kicks ass at the moment but when it is launched nationwide it will be slow and 1 of the chorus techs said they cant moniter ur d/l at the moment but they will b able 2 moniter it witin a few months</font>

the tell you roughly when? and you know the tech guy r they just tell ye over da fone?cause if its a few mts as in november i'm ring'n em bout powernet tomorrow

yankinlk

smoking man: SPOT ON..i couldnt remember the word for it...INEX (whatever that is) but thats the story, they are supposed to be getting that sorted shortly.

serial killer: the way i look at it, they won't be monitoring untill theyre customers start abusing/complaining about the service.

but either way, they cant do anything about what channels you get with the digital tv yet either (theyare all free for another couple months) so why would this be any different.

The Cigarette Smoking Man

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yankinlk:
smoking man: SPOT ON..i couldnt remember the word for it...INEX (whatever that is) but thats the story, they are supposed to be getting that sorted shortly.
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It's the Internet Neutral Exchange: www.inex.ie

It's where all Irish ISPs interconnect so that traffic from Ireland destined for Ireland doesn't leave the country. Some ISPs aren't connected yet and all of their traffic is passing through LINX and back again.

irishguy

he came 2 da house 2 recalbrate something or other and it came up in the conversation ,also i have been d/l`ing about 4gigs a month and have not been charged . also if u can get away with not getting the software [which will save u something like £30] ill post it 2 ya,you dont even need it its only 4 trouble shooting

MrTimewalk

ISDN (This info is intended for those unfamiliar with the technology)

I've had ISDN for over a year now and I've been tempted to change over to chorus. It costs me roughly £50 a month on rental and call changes (same as normal phone rates so it's 20 rental and I use around £30 calls a month). The one thing about ISDN is it's incredibly solid. I live out in the country side and have NEVER EVER had a down line in a year. IOL, etc. allow you to connect at 64k to their servers with their free accounts, downloads are obviously not as fast as the Cable setup however connections to Irish servers give you around 70ms pings. My one concern about Chorus' setup is speed as the services gets taken up more.

The Cigarette Smoking Man

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moist:
Gigabit ??
A gigabit connection the D'Internet ???
Have you any idea how much bandwith costs in this country man?
Its somthing like £280,000 a year for an E3 !
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Not if you're Eircom or Esat, they'd just run fibre straight into the building. It's a peering arangement so the costs are fairly low.

BTW here's a good site: http://www.hea.net
I see DIT have upgraded from their old ****e 2Mb line to a 10Mb ATM.

moist

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Cigarette Smoking Man:
Not if you're Eircom or Esat, they'd just run fibre straight into the building. It's a peering arangement so the costs are fairly low.
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Indeed... although unless Eircom/Esat are making a whopping proffit (which I wouldn't be surprised at )
The cost of laying tails is still rather pricey.


Ok, little rant aside , chorus have a share in the global crossing (Actually, I don't think anyone is actually using that yet)
A few STM's to the states and a few more to the UK/mainland Europe.


Mind you aranging peering isn't always that easy.
I've heard that bpn were having feirce trouble getting people to peer with them
in the UK for some reason or other...

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BTW here's a good site: http://www.hea.net
I see DIT have upgraded from their old ****e 2Mb line to a 10Mb ATM.</font>

Know it well....
All their dodg.e.y ATM





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moist

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Cigarette Smoking Man:
Sounds like they don't have proper peering arangements with the INEX.
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Proper Peering Arangements ??
More like No peerimg arangements....
...at the moment that is
INEX is on the way, waiting on Eircom to move their ass apparently... A few weeks...

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Another company has recently taken over running it
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Really ???
Since when ???
No one tole me !!

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and they are doubling the capacity and upgrading to gigabit ethernet, so those issues should be resolved soon (hopefully).</font>

Gigabit ??
A gigabit connection the D'Internet ???
Have you any idea how much bandwith costs in this country man?
Its somthing like £280,000 a year for an E3 !

The Cigarette Smoking Man

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moist:

Know it well....
All their dodg.e.y ATM </font>

I think I'd rather be in one of these Universities: http://www.internet2.edu/abilene/html/connectors.html

(especially the one with the OC-12)

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irishguy

MrTimewalk,
powernet from chorus is not solid at all it stops a few times every hour ,but its only down secs but still it anoying and some times it could be out days .you can get 128k isdn access for the price of 1 call instead of 2 with utv http://www.utvinternet.com/netservices/dialup

yankinlk

mr timewalk knows how good powernet is from my own experiences whenever i want to meet him for a t2 match it goes down

but in fairness, if it goes down for me, its only for a little while, and usually i have been using it for at least 6 hours that same day.

i have yet to be down for days...i would assume that happened a friday evening or saturday morning for you.

Smoking man and moist, you guys seem to be in the know...would it be worth it to get another modem rather then the one they provide? ie: reliabilty and speed wise, im not worried about security (shh...dont tell lee7 h4x0rs)

something like a netopia cable router...
http://www.netopia.com/equipment/routers/r9100/

moist

I don't know a whole lot about the cable end of things as I have never actually played with it.

- Sorry.

dahamsta

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">you can get 128k isdn access for the price of 1 call instead of 2 with utv</font>

Whatchew talkin' 'bout Willis?

adam

(bugger)

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irishguy

well thats what they say on there site [i think]

-ADREN-

Yankin just wandering

What now are your

Dload speeds.. the max you have seen
You ping to irish servers..
Your Ping to English servers..

And aslo I have a pricing thing here but i am not sure about it

Is all I have to pay the 150 pounds for the Modem and thats it?

Thx .. Adren.

yankinlk

okay okay, u werent on playing CS last night so I recon i better reply if i expect to see u on the net again what happened, did they cut off your no limits?

my download speeds are 50k by default ftp.
with a tweak, my download speed is 120k ftp.
I have seen 300+k download using http.

my ping to english servers is now around 60
my ping to irish servers has actually IMproved in the last 2 ro 3 weeks and is now under 100 everytime. last night on bayridge cs she was as low as 69.

pricing is simple: 150£ to get harware installed. 50£ to get the software installed, avoid this if you can and then 40£inc vat per month.