Bass+amp

Ravelleman

As for value, it's definitely the best. I'd say you'd have a lot of fun eqing that bass.

Ironically you just linked him to the G&L website via your sig Feylya.

christophicus

Ive googled the bass and cant find the maker thats why i asked and as i have said before some bass's handle the lower end better then others.

the difference between the two types is that one is made of basswood and the other is made of swamp wood,or something like that.

feylya

christophicus wrote:

Ive googled the bass and cant find the maker thats why i asked and as i have said before some bass's handle the lower end better then others.

Oh, now you have to be taking the piss. You couldn't find the manufacturer of a G&L Legacy bass? Tell me, what manufacturer makes an Ibanez SZ 520? Or who makes a Fender Stratocaster?

Ravelleman

Go for the one made of ash.

The only slight worry I'd have about the G&L is the 34" neck scale. 35" is better for 5 stringers but people seem to like the L2500 anyway.

Doctor J

Yes, crap basses don't do low end well, good ones do. However you're going to find amplification more important if you want to put out low low low low low low lows than a bass. Any of the basses mentioned and suggested to you will put out more low low low low low low lows than you will ever need or want, provided it's plugged into an amplification system capable of putting out low low low low low low low low lows and has strings appropriately designed to be tuned low low low low low.

christophicus

I counldnt see it on the google.

cheers docter j that is really helpful

Doctor J

34" basses put out low B just fine. The Ernie Ball Stingray 5 is one of the finest 5 strings out there and it's 34". Those Legacy basses do B just fine, according to any review I've ever read.

feylya

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=G%26L&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Can you see it now?

christophicus

Cheers for the link man but i just got it from your sig,and i googled the actual bass modle not the company.

Ravelleman

Some people do complain about 34" getting slightly sloppy with the low B, that is in general though, not necessarily with the L2500. Some people don't. Then again some people do complain about a lot of stuff.

christophicus

Yeah im planning on tuning the B string to a low A,hopefully this will not cause a problem.

Zapp Brannigan

It will prolly cos a lot of excessive string noise. That loose B will smack of the fretboard especially if you play hard.

christophicus

do you think that there is any chance of the low A playing ok and the fact that the neck isnt 35 inchs wont matter?

Zapp Brannigan

There is, but I'd say you would have to be very gentle with it. How come you need the low A anways?

christophicus

I just really like the sound of it and korn and slipknot (yes i know you probably all dispise them and now me for liking them) both use the low A extensively.

feylya

Actually, Korn tune to A, not drop A.

christophicus

Really?,would that not raelly wreck the B string?

feylya

How would that wreck the B string? You're talking about tuning to Drop A anyway. What's the difference?

christophicus

wouldnt you have to go up nearly a whole octave to tune it the way you say?I would have thought that that would really over stretch the string.

feylya

Psst, you tune DOWN!

christophicus

but then why is that not called a dropped A?

feylya

Dropped A is normally dropping one string. A Standard is tuning the whole guitar down a step. If you were going to tune UP, why not just play a guitar?

Karl Hungus

christophicus wrote:

but then why is that not called a dropped A?

"Drop" is when you only down tune the lowest string.

christophicus

feylya wrote:

Dropped A is normally dropping one string. A Standard is tuning the whole guitar down a step. If you were going to tune UP, why not just play a guitar?

Ok thanks for stratening that out for me.im not tuning up.

So when you said this

feylya wrote:

Actually, Korn tune to A, not drop A.

You ment that all of the strings would be real loose?

Doctor J

The bassist from Mastodon uses a 34" scale Fender Prophecy bass in standard B and in dropped A tunings. I hear they're doing pretty well for themselves.

feylya

christophicus wrote:

You ment that all of the strings would be real loose?

No, I meant stick a thicker guage on the bass and don't tune to standard tuning.

christophicus

Yeah i hope this bass will be ok with 34" scale when tuned to A.

Yeah but then if i want to have standard 5 string tuning am i screwed with the higher gauge

feylya

Get some thicker guage strings and it'll be fine.

No, you'll just have higher tension. I'm sure a bass player could confirm this.

christophicus

Will it sound ok at standard tuning then?

Doctor J

Unless you buy a piece of **** it will sound fine, provided you put the appropriate gauge string on for whatever tuning you coose to play in.

To tune to B or low A you will need at least a .125 or .130 (this is a bigger string) low B/A string. To tune to E anywhere between a .95 <-> .105 will more than suffice. A set of 5 strings will have both of these, depending on the set of strings. Just look at music123 or thomann for different bass strings. As a rule, a lighter string = a floppier string. You won't know which string suits you until you try out a few different gauges.

If you buy a 4 string bass and tune it down, you will need to file a wider groove in the nut. You may also need to do the same for the bridge. You will probably have to buy 5 string sets to get the big string.

christophicus

Ok thanks seeing as the tribute by G&L l 2500 seems to be the best value for monet bass i think i will get it .

Zapp Brannigan

You cant really go wrong with G & L, arent they the ones Leo Fender is with now?

feylya

Yup. The L in the name is for Leo.

Doctor J

Ummm, Leo's dead. Been dead a while now.

G&L were the last company he worked for (Gerry & Leo) before he passed away. The L1000 and L2000 are pretty much evolutions of the Stingray and Sabre basses, which were pretty much evolutions of the Precision and Jazz

The L2000 in particular is a really fantastic instrument. Leo was the man

Zapp Brannigan

Yeah I knew he was dead, I just have problems accepting it

Aye Ive never owned a G&L cos the headstocks turn me off em, but Ive played one and it was quite nice. nothing on my Musicman though

Ravelleman

Doctor J wrote:

G&L were the last company he worked for (Gerry & Leo) before he passed away.

I don't mean to nit-pick here but it's George not Gerry.

Doctor J

Oops, shouldn't have been looking at gerrycollins' post in bands/musicians at the same time

christophicus

ok now im pretty sure im either going to get an ibanez btb405 or a warlock nj 5.As some of you that have been fallow this long running saga can probably tell i have troublt making up my mind.does anyone have any oppinions on these bass's?

feylya

Personally, I'd get the BTB. Ibanez make incredible instruments that are suited to any style. BC Richs are "Metal" and I've never liked them.

christophicus

Ok ive just been looking at the ibanez range and i think the ibanez sr 505 might suit me better.From what i have read the btb 405 has quite a wide neck whereas the sr 505 has a rather skinny one( i which i think i would prefer)also the sr 505 has a 38" scale neck so im thinking it will be better for downtuning?is the sr 505 alot better then the btb or only slightly,casue its at least €150 more.

feylya

The BTB neck is pretty wide alright. The string spacing is strange too. The longer scale will be better for downtuning but 38" is huge. Make sure you can find long scale strings for it before you buy it.

christophicus

i presume someone will make long scale strings other wise it would be kind of pointless making such a long bass.

Zapp Brannigan

38" jesus!! Thatd be so long, and probably uncomfortable. TBH 35" is plenty.

christophicus

has anyone played a btb405 or sr 505? i would like their opinions plz.

Zapp Brannigan

Ive played a BTB1005 and I liked it. I like how they've kept the string spacing the same as a 4 string.

It wasn't me!

I've played the SR. Lovely basses. If you can, stretch and get a higher end one. I played a 905 and it was really fabulous.

Ravelleman

christophicus wrote:

ok now im pretty sure im either going to get an ibanez btb405 or a warlock nj 5.As some of you that have been fallow this long running saga can probably tell i have troublt making up my mind.does anyone have any oppinions on these bass's?

What sparked this sudden turn of events?

christophicus

i was over on the bass foums on www.Musicianforums.com and everyone there was saying that the btb405 is a rally good value for money bass and then i was looking at other ibanezs and saw that the sr505 has a 38" scale neck and closer string spacing which i think i will like.but alas i think im going to go for a btb 405 whcih will mean that i should be able to get an Ashdown mag c115 300 watt amp before the end of the year.

Ravelleman

The Sr505 most certainly does not have a 38" scale neck. It's 34". Of that I am sure.

christophicus

Of course you are completely right i dont know where i got that 38" figure from,I bet it was that no good ultimate guitar forums.that makes my choise that much easier now anyway it looks like that btb405 all the way.