Neighbor's dog barking 24-7! :(

tk123

My neighbours have gone off on holiday and left the dog behind. They have another neighbour feeding him so he's not abandoned but but he's out the back barking/crying all day and night!! He's also chained up and his chain is being dragged over their decking all the time which is also a bit noisy. Now I know it's not the dogs fault - he's clearly distressed because they've left him behind. But he barks all day when they're home too cos they leave him out the back. I've been looking on oasis.ie and it says i need to inform my neighbors if I want to complain - but they're not there!!! I know there's been posts about this before - has anyone actually complained - if so who do I go to??

Borzoi

tk123 wrote:

Now I know it's not the dogs fault - he's clearly distressed because they've left him behind. ..... if so who do I go to??

Have you tried the DSPCA assuming you're in Dublin to see if they habve an opinion?

Einstein

Of course the poor bugger is barking and crying, chaining a dog up all day long when they've been left alone is simply cruelty.
If the owner is too cheap to put his pet in a kennel for their trip away, they don't deserve to own a dog. Report him to Animal Welfare, and let them get the dog into a home that gives a rats as$.

garyh3

Have you tried the Animal/Pet issues part of this board they might have some good advice.

Garyh3

Lex Luthor

:mad:

tk123 wrote:

so he's not abandoned

YES HE IS...... :mad: :mad:

Would you like to be chained up for 2 weeks and have someone come in and feed you daily? :mad: NO. Animals are the same. :mad: If my neighbour did that, I'd make sure the dog was not there when they get back. :mad: Contact the ISPCA immediately and do the dog a favour. :mad:

:mad: Do the neighbours even walk him? :mad:

:mad: :mad: :mad:

MorningStar

Lex has a point but to deal with your issue at hand talk to the person feeding the dog. Offer to walk the dog or take care of it untill the people return if you can. Ìt is probably the easiest option to get over your immediate issue. Dogs are social animals and that's what's wrong with it, poor little thing

Firewalkwithme

MorningStar wrote:

Lex has a point but to deal with your issue at hand talk to the person feeding the dog. Offer to walk the dog or take care of it untill the people return if you can. Ìt is probably the easiest option to get over your immediate issue. Dogs are social animals and that's what's wrong with it, poor little thing

It's not his responsibility to look after the dog! Call the DSPCA and they'll sort it out.

jhegarty

tk123 wrote:

My neighbours have gone off on holiday and left the dog behind. They have another neighbour feeding him so he's not abandoned but but he's out the back barking/crying all day and night!! He's also chained up and his chain is being dragged over their decking all the time which is also a bit noisy. Now I know it's not the dogs fault - he's clearly distressed because they've left him behind. But he barks all day when they're home too cos they leave him out the back. I've been looking on oasis.ie and it says i need to inform my neighbors if I want to complain - but they're not there!!! I know there's been posts about this before - has anyone actually complained - if so who do I go to??

what breed is he ?

luckat

Depends on how involved you want to get, with your neighbours and with their dog.

If you don't mind being involved, try slinging a treat over the wall every time he *stops* barking. Talk to the person who comes to feed him and see if you could bring the dog for a walk once a day.

If you have any kind of videocamera, take a video of how the dog is barking and crying, to show to your neighbours when they come back. Point out that (a) it's cruel, and (b) it's a security risk - it's like hanging a big ad out saying "We're not home".

If you don't want to be involved, go to irishanimals.com and ask advice there.

If the dog's impounded I'm not sure what would happen; I understand that the pounds mostly aren't taking in animals right now because they're closed to deal with infection problems, though this may have changed.

MorningStar

Despatch wrote:

It's not his responsibility to look after the dog! Call the DSPCA and they'll sort it out.

If I see you being beaten up it's not my responsibility to help you either :rolleyes:
Try and think with a social mind and what will address the issue in the easiest yeast confrontational way.
So you know your attitude is considered and anti-social one and IMHO as bad as littering, drinking on the streets etc...

landser

MorningStar wrote:

If I see you being beaten up it's not my responsibility to help you either :rolleyes:
Try and think with a social mind and what will address the issue in the easiest yeast confrontational way.
So you know your attitude is considered and anti-social one and IMHO as bad as littering, drinking on the streets etc...

what the hell???

the dog is a domestic nuisance, not a societal problem. if my neighbour's kids are running riot, should i offer to bring them up?

the owners shouldn't be allowed to keep the dog if they abandon it while on holidays. if you want to act with a social conscience, that would appear to be the way to go... phone the dspca, and they will remove it. better for you and the dog

MorningStar

landser wrote:

what the hell???

the dog is a domestic nuisance, not a societal problem. if my neighbour's kids are running riot, should i offer to bring them up?


better for you and the dog

The dog is part of the normal social mix in irish community not a nuisance. This dog is behaving in an understandable way like a screaming child it's not running riot.

If you have a problem with your neighbour do you ring the cops straight away? The DSPCA put down how many dogs a year? Being dead isn't exactly the best for the dog in my view. The OP doesn't even blame the dog. THe nice easiest way is as I suggested.

The dog owner may have asked the wrong perosn to take care of them and completely unaware of how they are treating the dog. Have some compasion and don't assume everything.

landser

MorningStar wrote:

The dog is part of the normal social mix in irish community not a nuisance. This dog is behaving in an understandable way like a screaming child it's not running riot.

If you have a problem with your neighbour do you ring the cops straight away? The DSPCA put down how many dogs a year? Being dead isn't exactly the best for the dog in my view. The OP doesn't even blame the dog. THe nice easiest way is as I suggested.

The dog owner may have asked the wrong perosn to take care of them and completely unaware of how they are treating the dog. Have some compasion and don't assume everything.

the milk of human kondness clearly runs through your veins to the extent that you believe it is better to allow these people to own a dog which is persistently left alone or chained up in the back garden. obviously it is not the dog's fault, but that does not mean that he is not creating the nuisance, the ultimate cause of which is the actions of the owners. i don't belive that dogs in general are a nuisance, but this one clearly is.

as for assumptions... i made none, read the OP. it states clearly that the dog causes a nuisance even when they are in the country, as it is left out the back garden all day. :rolleyes:

by your post above you infer that a dog is better off being treated cruelly by its owner, than being put down. I have compassion for the dog and feel it would be best for it, as well as its neighbours, to have the animal removed by the dspca.

Harry2001

Ask the neighbour looking after the dog can they take it in until the idiots return.

Christ how ****ing stupid do you have to be to leave your dog chained up while you go on holiday?

People like this should not be allowed to own dogs

tk123

Harry2001 wrote:

Ask the neighbour looking after the dog can they take it in until the idiots return.

Christ how ****ing stupid do you have to be to leave your dog chained up while you go on holiday?

People like this should not be allowed to own dogs

The neightbors minding him don't want him in their place cos he barks there too...he barks when we're out in our garden, i don't let my cat up on our shed cos it annoys the dog. It's not the dogs fault - the fact that they didn't put him in a a kennel and leave him out all day crying to get in when their home shows they're not bothered!! :mad: the bastids!! I posted here because there has been previous posts with people in the same position but they never post back to say what they did. Oh and jhegarty I think he's a collie of some sort? He's black and white with longish hair...

Lex Luthor

MorningStar wrote:

The dog owner may have asked the wrong perosn to take care of them and completely unaware of how they are treating the dog.

Give me a break.... :rolleyes:

The dog owner is ULTIMATELY responsible for that dog, whether he is in the country or not. The neighbour is obviously stupid enough to agree to feed the dog while they were away. I know if my neighbour asked me to do the same thing if they went on holidays, I'd give them the 2 fingers. My sister just got back from holidays and paid over €300 kennel bill for her 2 dogs. She lives out in the country, has her father in law living next door and sister in law up the road, but she didn't think about asking them to feed the dogs and watch them while she was away. She owns them, she makes sure they are properly taken care of.

Either ask the neighbour who has been given the responsibilty to feed it to do something about it, or do it yourself and explain to the dog owner when they get back.

Would it bother you as much if the dog never barked and was still chained up for 2 weeks?

Firewalkwithme

MorningStar wrote:

If I see you being beaten up it's not my responsibility to help you either :rolleyes:
Try and think with a social mind and what will address the issue in the easiest yeast confrontational way.
So you know your attitude is considered and anti-social one and IMHO as bad as littering, drinking on the streets etc...

Why the hell would I expect a total stranger to put his or her own safety at risk to help me if I was being beaten up? And what has that got to do with a dog barking anyway?

By the way if you do consider this to be a matter of social conscience why don't you ask the OP to put you in touch with said animal? Maybe you could liberate it yourself? Take it out somewhere nice for a walk or to a Socialist Workers Party meeting but don't forget your pooper scooper.

Also could you please explain to me how suggesting the reporting of an animal in obvious distress the the correct body for dealing with such cases demonstrates that I have an anti-social attitude? If it's a non-confrontational method you are seeking then surely reporting it is the correct course of action instead of confronting the neigbours about it.

Dellgirl

Id ring the DSPCA and let the owner or the minder pay the kennel bill. THey will be so busy fighting over that that they will forget you reported it in the first place.
There is nothing more annoying that a dog going on all night. What about leaning over the fence into your neighbours garden and shouting up at them every few seconds, or bouncing a tennis ball off their window?
To hell with kindness and lets all love each other and Gods creatures ......it doesnt cut at 3 in the morning.

MorningStar

Lex Luthor wrote:

Give me a break.... :rolleyes:

The dog owner is ULTIMATELY responsible for that dog, whether he is in the country or not. The neighbour is obviously stupid enough to agree to feed the dog while they were away. I know if my neighbour asked me to do the same thing if they went on holidays, I'd give them the 2 fingers. My sister just got back from holidays and paid over €300 kennel bill for her 2 dogs. She lives out in the country, has her father in law living next door and sister in law up the road, but she didn't think about asking them to feed the dogs and watch them while she was away. She owns them, she makes sure they are properly taken care of.

Either ask the neighbour who has been given the responsibilty to feed it to do something about it, or do it yourself and explain to the dog owner when they get back.

Would it bother you as much if the dog never barked and was still chained up for 2 weeks?

You don't know what the owners said to the person who was meant to take care of the dog. You don't know what the person siad to the owner. I don't know about you but I have been let down before. It might be stupid or what ever but you can't say for sure that it is willfull neglect.
It sounds like they aren't the best owners but we are hearing one side of an argument here. Which slightly contradicts itself by saying the dog barks 24/7 but also also barks when they are in the garden. No offense meant to you tk123.
Ultimately he wants the dog to stop and not to be in trouble with his neighbours. Getting the neighbours dog taken away and possibly killed isn't the best for neighbours relationships IMHO. Of course you might think that is a reasonable and proper and can't see how that might cause some problems.
I have dogs and wouldn't do the same and yes it would bother me if I saw a dog locked up all day in any manner.
All I am saying is don't be so quick to judge and come up with a solution not make matters worse. Chill out just because somebody comes up with a different way of handling a problem doesn't make it a personal attack.

Harry2001

tk123 wrote:

The neightbors minding him don't want him in their place cos he barks there too...he barks when we're out in our garden, i don't let my cat up on our shed cos it annoys the dog. It's not the dogs fault - the fact that they didn't put him in a a kennel and leave him out all day crying to get in when their home shows they're not bothered!! :mad: the bastids!! I posted here because there has been previous posts with people in the same position but they never post back to say what they did. Oh and jhegarty I think he's a collie of some sort? He's black and white with longish hair...

I'd report the muppets either way, at least them the DSPCA can pay them a visit and maybe that will shock them into looking after the dog and not doing this again in the future.

There is too much of this kind of crap going on, own a dog? then look after the bloody thing!

Firewalkwithme

MorningStar wrote:

It sounds like they aren't the best owners but we are hearing one side of an argument here.

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Get it? :rolleyes:

landser

MorningStar wrote:

You don't know what the owners said to the person who was meant to take care of the dog. You don't know what the person siad to the owner. I don't know about you but I have been let down before. It might be stupid or what ever but you can't say for sure that it is willfull neglect.
It sounds like they aren't the best owners but we are hearing one side of an argument here. Which slightly contradicts itself by saying the dog barks 24/7 but also also barks when they are in the garden. No offense meant to you tk123.
Ultimately he wants the dog to stop and not to be in trouble with his neighbours. Getting the neighbours dog taken away and possibly killed isn't the best for neighbours relationships IMHO. Of course you might think that is a reasonable and proper and can't see how that might cause some problems.
I have dogs and wouldn't do the same and yes it would bother me if I saw a dog locked up all day in any manner.
All I am saying is don't be so quick to judge and come up with a solution not make matters worse. Chill out just because somebody comes up with a different way of handling a problem doesn't make it a personal attack.

how can you have read the OP and yet not have understood it? there is nothing contradictory in anything that the OP said. OP never said that he didn'ty want to avoid falling out with his neighbours, he wanted a solution to the barking dog. the fact that you wouldn't treat your dogs as the op's neighbours have is irrelavant... that fact that you love dogs is irrelevant... i also like dogs, but would have no problems having a problem dog removed. I would much prefer to have the owners taken away and put down, but i can't!

Lex's post did not attack you personally in any way, merely disagreed with you, as I did. While your solution is very worthy, it's unlikely to yield dividend... further, the op might as well adopt the bloody dog as well as follow your advice, as he'll be walking the dog for life since the owners seem to leave it out the back garden constantly

MorningStar

landser wrote:

how can you have read the OP and yet not have understood it?

The same way you read mine and didn't get my meaning.
I may have quoted Lex but it was a reply to all who were critical of my suggestion. Despatch > proving my point with his idiotic response.
How could you read one point of view and assume all he is said is a fair balanced view. There is a slight contradiction in his posts and I pointed it out yet you missed it again. Not a big deal
Never accused anybody of a personal attack I said an opposing view isn't a personal attack so don't treat it as such and relax. Despatch illistrating it as does yours. I mentioned my dogs to point out I don't think the animal is being treated well and I wouldn't do the same. THat waws why it was relevant. AS I don't know the owners I 'll say I don't want them put down.
Fine you don't think my idea will work yet you fail to say why. I think the call to DSPCA is an extreme response and other options considered first. Ever dawn on anybody that the neighbour would be upset that they are disturbing people around them? You don't know. Any chance that Tk123 is actually as much trouble? (no offense meant).
Despatch illistrating how people can be completely unreasonable when given an opposing view. Lex also dismissed my view by saying "give me a break". Calm and measued responses aren't flying about.

Chong

Well when I saw this thread I thought I should tell you my story. My neighbour is always there right, and has two dogs for the past 4 years. Not once in four years have they been out of their back garden which is only about 6ft * 8ft. Point being that the dogs bark all day long and into the night non stop, for one its not fair on the dogs and two not fair on the neighbours.

Dellgirl

Despatch > proving my point with his idiotic response

I thought it was very funny tbh.

The DSPCA is there for incidents of this nature as well as providing other services. Its amazing with all the animal zealots out therem (a good thing) that there are no rules to keeping a dog, such as size required relative to the size of the dog. MAybe there are and I dont know it.

What is a collie...thats a sheepdog right?.....doing in the city?

Firewalkwithme

MorningStar wrote:

The same way you read mine and didn't get my meaning.
I may have quoted Lex but it was a reply to all who were critical of my suggestion. Despatch > proving my point with his idiotic response.
How could you read one point of view and assume all he is said is a fair balanced view. There is a slight contradiction in his posts and I pointed it out yet you missed it again. Not a big deal
Never accused anybody of a personal attack I said an opposing view isn't a personal attack so don't treat it as such and relax. Despatch illistrating it as does yours. I mentioned my dogs to point out I don't think the animal is being treated well and I wouldn't do the same. THat waws why it was relevant. AS I don't know the owners I 'll say I don't want them put down.
Fine you don't think my idea will work yet you fail to say why. I think the call to DSPCA is an extreme response and other options considered first. Ever dawn on anybody that the neighbour would be upset that they are disturbing people around them? You don't know. Any chance that Tk123 is actually as much trouble? (no offense meant).
Despatch illistrating how people can be completely unreasonable when given an opposing view. Lex also dismissed my view by saying "give me a break". Calm and measued responses aren't flying about.

You are quite right when you say you didn't accuse anyone of a personal attack yet you personally attacked me by saying that my solution of calling the DSPCA demonstrated that I had an anti-social attitude and followed it up by comparing my perceived attitude to people who litter and drink on the streets. I can only say what a bizarre statement I think that is.

Using a spell checker and re-reading your posts before you submit them might help you get your point accross a little better so you aren't misunderstood in future.
I never said that I didn't think that your idea wouldn't work, all I was saying was that I don't believe it's the right way to deal with it.

As for your comment about if it had dawned on any of us that the neighbour might be upset about it too, has it dawned on you that the neighbours inaction to date would suggest that they are content to leave the animal as it is?

MorningStar

Blingarella wrote:

What is a collie...thats a sheepdog right?.....doing in the city?

There are loads of types of collies Lassie is a type. They come in lots of sizes but are really smart, need a lot of excercise and very social.

It would have been a funny remark but like most things it depends when you say it.

Lex Luthor

Despatch wrote:

Here's the other side:

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Get it? :rolleyes:

LOL

p.s what is OP? duh..!!!

Dellgirl

There are loads of types of collies Lassie is a type. They come in lots of sizes but are really smart, need a lot of excercise and very social.

So cooped up in a back yard isint the place for them?

It would have been a funny remark but like most things it depends when you say it.

It wasnt actually meant to be funny. Seriously, sheep dogs that

are really smart, need a lot of excercise and very social.

arent really cut out for the city.
The counrtyside sounds like a much better deal, so even having one in the city is cruel in itself, no?
Barring someone who has the time to spend hours on the greens with it or on the beach.

dil999

Tk123,

I own 2 dogs, and, would never in a million years think of doing what your neighbour has done. It is pure and simply cruelty. Anybody who has done this to an animal does not deserve to own one.

Apologies for being blunt, but stop pi$$ing around and immediately call the DSPCA.

Regds
Dil999

landser

MorningStar wrote:

The same way you read mine and didn't get my meaning.
I may have quoted Lex but it was a reply to all who were critical of my suggestion. Despatch > proving my point with his idiotic response.
How could you read one point of view and assume all he is said is a fair balanced view. There is a slight contradiction in his posts and I pointed it out yet you missed it again. Not a big deal
Never accused anybody of a personal attack I said an opposing view isn't a personal attack so don't treat it as such and relax. Despatch illistrating it as does yours. I mentioned my dogs to point out I don't think the animal is being treated well and I wouldn't do the same. THat waws why it was relevant. AS I don't know the owners I 'll say I don't want them put down.
Fine you don't think my idea will work yet you fail to say why. I think the call to DSPCA is an extreme response and other options considered first. Ever dawn on anybody that the neighbour would be upset that they are disturbing people around them? You don't know. Any chance that Tk123 is actually as much trouble? (no offense meant).
Despatch illistrating how people can be completely unreasonable when given an opposing view. Lex also dismissed my view by saying "give me a break". Calm and measued responses aren't flying about.

I think that your affection for our canine companions is clouding yuor judgment in this matter, my friend. It would be great if a solution could be found to the problem without the dspca getting involved, and withiout the OP having to, de facto, adopt the dog, but it is unlikely to happen in the real world.