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Do you use your neightbours Wireless???????Read This

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    robinph wrote:
    I think it might actually be more like having your front door closed, but you have left your possesions out on the street with a sign on them saying "this is mine" and then being upset when someone picks it up and walks off with them.
    But that still doesn't mean that it's not theft if you take the item!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    robinph wrote:
    I think it might actually be more like having your front door closed, but you have left your possesions out on the street with a sign on them saying "this is mine" and then being upset when someone picks it up and walks off with them.

    You have not asked anyone to take your stuff, but you have left them available and in the open for everyone to see.

    good point , a bit nearer... but let try this...


    like having your front door closed, but you have left your possesions out on the street with a sign on them saying "this is mine" and then being upset when someone picks it up and uses it for a while , then puts it back


  • Registered Users Posts: 481 ✭✭Couch Potato


    Scruff wrote:
    this reminds me. i must turn of SSID broadcast on my router.:o have WEP enabled though...

    WEP is not very strong and there are programs around to crack the code - use WPA if possible.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,103 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    seamus wrote:
    But that still doesn't mean that it's not theft if you take the item!

    What other personal possesions can you leave out on the street in the open and expect to be able to charge someone with theft for if they walk off with it, apart from cars. If you left your ipod lying in the street and then someone walked off with it I dont think you would get much joy in trying to get the police to go chasing after them to charge them with anything. You'd just be told that you are an idiot and dont do it again.

    Although it would still technically be theft of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    robinph wrote:
    Although it would still technically be theft of course.
    Yes, it would. And if you left it in the street, went after them, and they refused to give it back, then it's theft, and the Gardai would follow up on it. They'd probably call you an idiot too. But it still doesn't change the fact that legally it's stealing. If you get caught, you will be charged. If you find €1000 in the street and keep it (without reporting it to the Gardai), you can be charged.

    There is absolutely no way to justify wardriving as being legally "OK". It's theft. Like students who steal toilet paper out of the toilets in their college. Nobody really notices, and in theory nobody is hurt by it, but if they're caught, they still deserve to be expelled.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭sharingan


    Unsecured wireless network here not by my choice, my dvd player just doesn't play ball with WEP enabled even though it supports it, but i do filter by mac address and hey if any of my neighbours are able to spoof one of my macs they deserve some of my bandwidth :p

    The simplest solutions are often the best. WHile on a technical level MAC-filtering is not very good security, on a practical level it is - it is easy to accomplish and makes you considerably more secure than your neighbours.

    This is an interesting case - its actually pretty hard to determine exactly what he did on-line. However it is important that B/W leeching is the least of your worries when someone connects into your WLAN.

    Its quite worrying that someone can conduct internet crime through your WLAN, and do it without any risk of capture, as it is *YOUR* address that any crimes will be traced to. This is something that existing and wannabe net criminal are much more aware of. Which is easier to do - secure your home LAN, or defend yourself in court when faced with charges of hacking or trafficking in child porn?

    Do your neighbours a favour, leave them a note on a shared drive, or shared printer or send a windows message notifying them of this (for obvious reasons don't identify yourself in any way). If they ignore it after that, well you have done your good samaritan bit.


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