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Beruthiel

that's me in the red t shirt!!

Firewalkwithme

ecksor wrote:

At least you recognise that he's talking about you. I suppose you'll ignore the rest of his post.

So would you regard the remark as being offensive or is it acceptable behavior to go around insulting people on boards?

I've no comment to make on the rest of his post as trying to discuss anything with you is utterly pointless.

ecksor

My attitudes towards the moderation of this particular forum are posted elsewhere. I could explain them to you again but you'd merely ignore it or claim that you somehow know better, which is tedious for me, a waste of time for everyone else and basically non-productive.

If trying to discuss anything with me is pointless then I don't understand why you post on this forum.

BuffyBot

they can access confused people in lesbian/gay/bisexual forum, that whould creep them out, well more then people in the new forum

Eh?

It's not about "confused people". The point of the forum is to have somewhere where sexual issues can be discussed in an adult fashion, with the discussion being somewhat more detailed and frank than you would find on a publically available forum such as LGB.

seamus

Despatch wrote:

So would you regard the remark as being offensive or is it acceptable behavior to go around insulting people on boards?

I personally think it's perfectly fine, so long as it's direct at a group of people, and not at an individual. You seem to have decided that it was aimed at you.

Firewalkwithme

seamus wrote:

I personally think it's perfectly fine, so long as it's direct at a group of people, and not at an individual. You seem to have decided that it was aimed at you.

No I didn't, I know it's directed a number of people, myself included but does that then mean that it's fine to insult groups of people here, just not individuals? By your reasoning it would be ok for anyone to direct a wide ranging insult at a group of people here without any fear of repercussions. Would that then mean that it's ok to slag off the mods and admins en masse?
Somehow I think not.

mycroft

Despatch wrote:

No I didn't, I know it's directed a number of people, myself included but does that then mean that it's fine to insult groups of people here, just not individuals? By your reasoning it would be ok for anyone to direct a wide ranging insult at a group of people here without any fear of repercussions. Would that then mean that it's ok to slag off the mods and admins en masse?
Somehow I think not.

It was the first time I've ever read a post by The corinthian and found myself agreeing entirely with it. Creepy. See what you're making me do?

If the mods and admins where en masse engaged in behaviour that was at your whinging bellyaching level you might have a point. Corinthian, make a broad statement about the behaviour of a group of posters, and IMO you fit the profile perfectly.

I've no comment to make on the rest of his post as trying to discuss anything with you is utterly pointless.

Translation, you got pwd, and now have moved from whinging about his argument to the manner it was phrased.

Weak, very very weak.

Firewalkwithme

mycroft wrote:

It was the first time I've ever read a post by The corinthian and found myself agreeing entirely with it. Creepy. See what you're making me do?

If the mods and admins where en masse engaged in behaviour that was at your whinging bellyaching level you might have a point. Corinthian, make a broad statement about the behaviour of a group of posters, and IMO you fit the profile perfectly.

It's was the 'mentally retarded' remark that I found distastful TBH. Not exactly PC is it?

mycroft wrote:

Translation, you got pwd, and now have moved from whinging about his argument to the manner it was phrased.

Weak, very very weak.

Nope, I decided not to bother continuing the original argument because it was clearly going nowhere. CivilServant seems to have had a similar experience too. The only reason I posted again in this thread was because of the mentally retarded comment. Do you think it's good to make fun of the handicapped or use their condition as a basis to make fun of others?

Deadwing

For gods sake the whining has gone on long enough, if you want to read it, buy a sub, if you dont wanna pay for it, go to one of the countless other sex discussion forums on t'internet for free. It may surprise you but yes, there are other discussion forums than boards.ie.
If the mods want to make some money here, more power to them, they provide everything else free of charge so noones gonna begrudge them a few quid for access to a porn board. Personally i couldnt give a bollocks what goes on in HONK. Out of sight, out of mind. Stop the complaining already.

Kintarō Hattori

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Perhaps those are the type of people that aren't wanted as boards.ie subscribers?

Ever think that? They're not the smart dollar - not a good demographic.

If someone has blead this off shoot of the topic, then I apologise, unfortunately I'm in work and don't have the time to read every reply before I make my own.

That is such an ignorant remark RE*AC*TOR, there are many people out there without a credit card such as myself, for varying different reasons. I would love to subscribe to boards, but if indeed they aren't taking Postal Orders or Bank Draft's or direct lodgements into their account that's just a load of b*ll*cks! It effectively excludes a large portion of people who choose not to have a credit card from subscribing to something they really like. I've been registered with boards since 2001, bit it's only in the last 3 months that I've gotten to use it every day and have been thinking about subscribing. What on earth is with making it so difficult to subscribe?

I really do hope you were joking and couldn't possibly believe you were serious with that remark.

mycroft

Despatch wrote:

It's was the 'mentally retarded' remark that I found distastful TBH. Not exactly PC is it?

Your ego is obviously a tender thing.

Nope, I decided not to bother continuing the original argument because it was clearly going nowhere. CivilServant seems to have had a similar experience too. The only reason I posted again in this thread was because of the mentally retarded comment. Do you think it's good to make fun of the handicapped or use their condition as a basis to make fun of others?

Actually it was that the label was applied to you, that brought you back to the thread. You resented being called that, you deemed it an insult, and a slight aganist you, now suddenly it's "not PC", and that it's an insult to the handicapped community. Shift the goalposts much?

Please stop pretending you're offended by one, thing, and not the other. You quickly dropped the pretense of being outraged by the subscription based forum when your argument was demolished, then you considered yourself insulted and demanded an apology, and now suddenly it's the mentally handicapped you're outraged for.

RE*AC*TOR

eo980 wrote:

If someone has blead this off shoot of the topic, then I apologise, unfortunately I'm in work and don't have the time to read every reply before I make my own.

That is such an ignorant remark RE*AC*TOR, there are many people out there without a credit card such as myself, for varying different reasons. I would love to subscribe to boards, but if indeed they aren't taking Postal Orders or Bank Draft's or direct lodgements into their account that's just a load of b*ll*cks! It effectively excludes a large portion of people who choose not to have a credit card from subscribing to something they really like. I've been registered with boards since 2001, bit it's only in the last 3 months that I've gotten to use it every day and have been thinking about subscribing. What on earth is with making it so difficult to subscribe?

I really do hope you were joking and couldn't possibly believe you were serious with that remark.

Oh I was serious so very very serious. C'mon now - in today's economy - what kind of redneck doesn't have a credit card? Consider it a separating of the wheat from the chaff. Imagine the despair if any kind of riff raff were allowed to be a boards.ie subscriber - all the prestige associated with that highest of offices would be lost.

I'm sure I'm not exagerrating when I say that it would be better that no one be a subscirber than for a slew of degenerates with their sticky fingers and their "oh ma!, i've got me one o' them postal orders" to dilute the uper echelons of this fair community.

Deadwing

Despatch wrote:

Do you think it's good to make fun of the handicapped or use their condition as a basis to make fun of others?

Firewalkwithme

mycroft wrote:

Your ego is obviously a tender thing.



Actually it was that the label was applied to you, that brought you back to the thread. You resented being called that, you deemed it an insult, and a slight aganist you, now suddenly it's "not PC", and that it's an insult to the handicapped community. Shift the goalposts much?

Please stop pretending you're offended by one, thing, and not the other. You quickly dropped the pretense of being outraged by the subscription based forum when your argument was demolished, then you considered yourself insulted and demanded an apology, and now suddenly it's the mentally handicapped you're outraged for.

I wasn't pretending to be anything that I'm not. My argument wasn't demolished as you put it, shouted down would be more accurate. Besides, what has someone elses insult got to do with you anyway? I'm not going to be drawn on this any further by you. I'll only be responding to the relevant persons should they choose to say something.

seamus

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Oh I was serious so very very serious. C'mon now - in today's economy - what kind of redneck doesn't have a credit card? Consider it a separating of the wheat from the chaff. Imagine the despair if any kind of riff raff were allowed to be a boards.ie subscriber - all the prestige associated with that highest of offices would be lost.

I'm sure I'm not exagerrating when I say that it would be better that no one be a subscirber than for a slew of degenerates with their sticky fingers and their "oh ma!, i've got me one o' them postal orders" to dilute the uper echelons of this fair community.

Stop trolling you.

eo980, I imagine the reason why they admins are switched to Paypal-only is because of the hassle of handling paper-based transactions. Someone has to bring cheques and postal orders and cash to the bank. That costs time. Something which is in short supply as it is. Plus, then you get people sending cheques and postal orders with no name/nick/email address on them, and no notification as to where it came from. The admins can't just lodge it and forget about it. They'd have to spend time tracking this person down. More time wasted. Then when Tom goes away on holidays, the postal orders start piling up on his floor. More time wasted sifting through them when he gets home.

Personally I think that operating with anything but credit card payments simply becomes unfeasible unless you have a shop counter and/or an office to handle them.

The Corinthian

Despatch wrote:

Do you think it's good to make fun of the handicapped or use their condition as a basis to make fun of others?

I wasn’t making fun, I was serious - if you honestly think that in the people running any Web site are here to work for free and pay all the bills associated with hosting that site for your personal entertainment then either you are criminally ignorant of the realities of life or have a sub-normal I.Q. Or both.

It’s not meant to be funny. Just tragic.

eo980 wrote:

I would love to subscribe to boards, but if indeed they aren't taking Postal Orders or Bank Draft's or direct lodgements into their account that's just a load of b*ll*cks! It effectively excludes a large portion of people who choose not to have a credit card from subscribing to something they really like. I've been registered with boards since 2001, bit it's only in the last 3 months that I've gotten to use it every day and have been thinking about subscribing. What on earth is with making it so difficult to subscribe?

In fairness, you have to consider that if people start sending you bank drafts and cheques, someone has to:

1. Identify who’s sending the cheque / draft (because of course people don’t always bother doing so).
2. Go to the bank to lodge the cheque / draft.
3. Keep separate accounts of all payments.
4. Remember when their subscription runs out so as to charge them again or switch off their status.

If you use Paypal or similar, it’ll essentially automate all of this. Otherwise someone has to take time to do it all. Without pay, I may add.

As such you have to appreciate why they might want to cut out payments that are too much hassle. Of course Boards Ltd could otherwise employ someone to do this, but that would mean paying a salary, which in turn would mean charging for something on Boards and the inevitable whinging from morons who want to have their free cake and eat it.

mycroft

Despatch wrote:

I wasn't pretending to be anything that I'm not. My argument wasn't demolished as you put it, shouted down would be more accurate.

Nope demolished, not a leg to stand on, shredded etc...........

Besides, what has someone elses insult got to do with you anyway?

You're posting on a public forum, don't say but out. Oh and seeing as Corinthian was making a generalisation that you thought applied to you, why are you demanding an apology for yourself. When you tell us it's not that you're insulted it's that you're outraged on behalf of the mentally handicapped community.

I'm not going to be drawn on this any further by you. I'll only be responding to the relevant persons should they choose to say something.

Awwwww Dispatch is taking his ball away and isn't coming back till we all play nice.

Firewalkwithme

The Corinthian wrote:

I wasn’t making fun, I was serious - if you honestly think that in the people running any Web site are here to work for free and pay all the bills associated with hosting that site for your personal entertainment then either you are criminally ignorant of the realities of life or have a sub-normal I.Q. Or both.

When did anyone suggest the above? I must have missed that.

Kintarō Hattori

Seamus,

I can completely and utterly see where your coming from and I can understand what your saying, indeed trying to keep a track of all the paper work, and indeed the incomplete paperwork is just a nightmare. Isn't it a tad extreme though to just accept paypal and that's it? I have seen on several threads that 'Boards' appreciates donations in order to try and keep things going, every little helps and so on. But it's making that really really difficult.

I'm no whipper snapper by any means, I'm so close to 30 it's frightening, but I have no intention of going and getting myself a credit card as usually there are any number of other means to pay for something. I'm not a freak by any means, but I can honestly say that most of the people I know don't use credit cards either. Surely there must be some sort of common ground or compromise that can be arranged?

I can see I'm going to be told by any number of users to just go and get a credit card, but why the hell should I have to do that just because I want to subscribe?

I don't want this to drag on and have us at loggerheads, I'm just disappointed most of all I guess. It just seems somewhat elitest, and like our lives are being made difficult.

WizZard

Deadwing, I nearly choked on my coffee! Hilarious pic!

mycroft

eo980 wrote:

I don't want this to drag on and have us at loggerheads, I'm just disappointed most of all I guess. It just seems somewhat elitest, and like our lives are being made difficult.

Which is a fair point, however as Seamus and the Corithian pointed out accepting cheques and postal orders will make the Admins life's more difficult.

Deadwing

WizZard wrote:

Deadwing, I nearly choked on my coffee! Hilarious pic!

that episode had me in stiches 'Duuuuh cartmaaaaan!!'

Kintarō Hattori

Sure I can understand cheques and postal orders. But what on earth is so difficult about lodging money into someone's bank account?

seamus

eo980 wrote:

I can completely and utterly see where your coming from and I can understand what your saying, indeed trying to keep a track of all the paper work, and indeed the incomplete paperwork is just a nightmare. Isn't it a tad extreme though to just accept paypal and that's it? I have seen on several threads that 'Boards' appreciates donations in order to try and keep things going, every little helps and so on. But it's making that really really difficult.

It's not really that strange. A lot of online places won't accept nowt but PayPal or credit card. Boards.ie does appreciate donations, but there reaches a point where the volume of subscribers can make it unmanageable. The admins would have no problem accepting a "donation" through paper channels (I think), but a subscription is that bit more troublesome, as Corinth outlines.

As far as I can see (and this is my opinion, I'm not privy to the info), the Admins are looking at creating more services and/or fringe benefits for which people can pay. Removing the paper transactions may be a cautionary precursor in anticipation of more incoming transactions.

Surely there must be some sort of common ground or compromise that can be arranged?

Perhaps the ability to set up bank transfer is still there. Maybe an admin can clarify?

Kintarō Hattori

I'd certainly appreciate some clarity on that.

BuffyBot

It's was the 'mentally retarded' remark that I found distastful TBH. Not exactly PC is it?

Dear God, we've hit a new low!

The Corinthian

Despatch wrote:

When did anyone suggest the above? I must have missed that.

Oh and when you suggested that you “understand it takes money to run your site but it one extra forum is hardly going to break the donkeys back is it” you weren’t looking not to have to pay? Indeed to underline your unwillingness to part with money you’ve already pointed out that you’ve no problem using credit card validation as long as you don’t have to pay.

Ultimately every ‘one extra forum’ that is suggested for subscription only ‘is hardly going to break the donkeys back’ after all. Until of course it does.

eo980 wrote:

But what on earth is so difficult about lodging money into someone's bank account?

How do you know who’s lodged it? How do you enforce that people actually let you know who’s lodged it? Who handles the recurring nature of the subscription?

Again, these are all logistical issues that can be carried out if you’re earning a salary from doing so. Until then, chicca.

Firewalkwithme

The Corinthian wrote:

Oh and when you suggested that you “understand it takes money to run your site but it one extra forum is hardly going to break the donkeys back is it” you weren’t looking not to have to pay? Indeed to underline your unwillingness to part with money you’ve already pointed out that you’ve no problem using credit card validation as long as you don’t have to pay.

Ultimately every ‘one extra forum’ that is suggested for subscription only ‘is hardly going to break the donkeys back’ after all. Until of course it does.

I also said I was thinking about subscribing immediately before this wonderful new forum was unveiled but you must have missed that. I don't want to go back over ground that's already been covered. Can you just tell me whether it is boards poilcy that's it's ok to hand out generalised insults but not personal ones?

The Corinthian

Despatch wrote:

I also said I was thinking about subscribing immediately before this wonderful new forum was unveiled but you must have missed that.

I didn't miss it, I just didn't believe it.

Firewalkwithme

The Corinthian wrote:

I didn't miss it, I just didn't believe it.

Fair enough, all I can say is that it is the truth.