Building a house and BB.

LazStanaridis

My knowledge of BB is minimal but my house in currently being built. Is there anything I should consider regarding BB at this stage of building that may cause me less problems when the house has completed.

Sponge Bob

cat V cable run beside every tv point to attic .

JNive

ensure you get a 6-core ( i think ) phoneline in, correctly wired as per reci pdf posted recently. make sure the line is not split from a neighbours line, very important. apart from that there isnt much, just make sure the internal wiring is good, and wherever your computer(s) will be i suggest the telephone to be wired to the one which will have your router, and for any extra, you might as well wire in Cat5 cable to other rooms, with an RJ45 port in each.

kaizersoze

Just 2 additional points that spring to mind:
1. Make sure you have your order into Eircom in plenty of time and keep pushing them. They take their sweet time hooking up new houses especially in estates. I would have been waiting over a year after moving in to be hooked up only for I had a contact in Eircom. Even then it took nearly 3 months.
2. Eircom don't guarantee any new phone line will be BB compatible to the best of my knowledge even if it's connected to a BB exchange and within the required distance. You have to get it installed, then get it tested for BB and pray it passes.

JNive

Also, from the time of installation, it can be up to a month before the line is tested by its automatic system lol, so bare that in mind.
And yes, they cannot guarantee that it will be capable of broadband since that is a supplementary service on a PSTN line and not its core function/purpose

pugleon

IMHO you should try and pick a single spot for the phone jack/wall outlet you'll be using for broadband. You may already have a little office planned out for yourself so that might be the place to run with. Reason being multiple outlets=interference on the line. Less you have the better your dsl connection is going to be, filters or no filters. And yeah, have an idea of where you're gonna want to jack into around the house for cat5 cable runs/outlets. Better you get those in now then digging into the walls later with a coat hanger.

Wireless access points in a few places in the house could be tres cool if ya had the cash...Just an idea

Sparky

run a telephone line to a central area in your house, could be in the attic under stairs etc, or since its a new house make a special area for it, in this area you should have all your cat 5 cables coming into it, in this area you should provide some power sockets on their own 20amp breaker. then install your modem/router and if nessesary a network hub.

It would be wise to install atleast a cat 5 in every room in the house, because in the future you may want to hook up a central music server and have some clients running of it hense you can easily plug then into the wall.
And a wise idea aswell is you can then plug in a wireless access point anywhere inthe house say for example the kitchen and then use your wireless laptop in the garden.

LazStanaridis

Thanks for the info.

Another qst. - Do Eircom install CAT V cable with phone cable or is it something a specialised company do i.e. is there someone else I should contact about it?

Sponge Bob

electrician will do it

Adey2002

Cat V 0r Cat5 is basic (ethernet) network cabling. If you are thinking about installing multiple PC's in multiple locations around the house and have them networked and internet connected, you would use Cat5 to cable from a central "hub" location (which is where you would need a phone/external line access). From that location you would need Cat 5 cable running to all rooms where you want a PC located. If you're still in the early stage of build you could hide the cable within walls etc. At the "hub" location you would use a cable/dsl router, which you plug your internet connection into and also your cat5 cables that are running around the house. If you only want 1 PC connected then you just need to make sure that you have easy access to the phone line.

Eircom will not do that cabling for you.

digitaldr

You could always forget CAT5 and go the wireless route - I've even streamed MPEG2 video without much problem over a g network.

WillieFlynn

If you are going to use a wireless LAN I would suggest putting it somewhere towards the centre of the house for two reasons:
You will get coverage everywhere in the house.
There is less chance of someone else using you connection uninvited.

You can test this with a wireless router before you get broadband, place it where you want in the house and wander around with you laptop to see where it can be picked up.

Putting in wires for your network in a new house has the main advantages of being less prone to interferance and is more secure. BTW cat 5 is good up to 100Mbs, but if you want a realy fast internal lan cat 6 is good for 1Gbs, its just a pity about the slow ADSL speeds in Ireland.

LFCFan

for future proofing, would it not be a better idea to run Fibre around the house instead of Cat 5/6? Maybe even aswell as the Cat5/6 so the upgrade option is always there in the future? How expensive is Fibre compared to Cat5/6? Can you get a Fibre to Coax convertor so for the time being you could continue to use your regular NICs? We're hoping to build next year so will be netowrking the house aswell.

Gurgle

LazStanaridis wrote:

My knowledge of BB is minimal but my house in currently being built. Is there anything I should consider regarding BB at this stage of building that may cause me less problems when the house has completed.

Not just for broadband but for comms in general, run phone wires, co-ax and fibre into every room in the house.

Lots of wires.
Everywhere.

Shouldn't cost more than a few hundred €, but you'd be thanking yourself for decades.

Sponge Bob

sockets fit onto backboxes which come in single or double or twin (2 x singles) sizes.

I would put 2 x twins into every room (both sides of fireplace) and run

1 x CT100 cable to attic for sat
1 x RG6 cable to attic for terrestrial TV
1 x single mode fibre (deferring to my colleagues) to attic
1 x CAT6 or CAT5e Gigabit cable to attic

Therefore there are 4 bundles of cable in the attic and the house is futureproof.

The reason I suggest TWIN backboxes is that you wire data into one single faceplate and tv into another single faceplate.

A DOUBLE socket with all of 1 (or 2 ) Cat 5 (or Cat6) AND 2 TV sockets (1 sat f connector type ) would cost an arm and a leg if it existed.

note the sat connector (top)

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and the fibre can be tucked in behind on or the other for future use , I would not bother with it yet .

weeder

ah thats not good as we are building new house its nearly finished cat5 ran through house fone socket every room too

dunno a thing about it being 6-core

upto a year we was going to move to smart or get some form of wireless in new house

eircom now moving to smart as soon as its availible in gorey