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has anyone ever used http://www.icecomms.net/
saw a poster about them and had a look at their website, some nice packages but the range is the thing that struck me as odd what equiment are they using to get such big ranges something like wimax or what? i would just like to know as a 2mb /512k package sounds nice over the ****ty 128k i am getting from eircom

Adey2002

Woohoo, Clondalkin is covered! bye bye Irishbroadband ......

stevenmu

I've been looking at them too, it'd be nice to hear if anybody has used them or knows someone who is ? They say they can provide speeds up to 56Mbs which i think means wimax ?

CyberGhost

interesting... we need feedback...

Adey2002

I'm just faxing off my order. They can't be worse than IBB...

I'll keep you posted as to progress but so far they have replied to an email and faxed all the required forms the same day as promised. It took IBB 12 weeks to do that..

stevenmu

From looking at their config details page they seem to use static ips by default which is nice. I wonder if their 'No Limits' is genuine or will they start capping people for excessive use.

djmarkus

Website looks very thrown together by a 14 year old

Chalk

wow, looks good,
but by jesus, if there service doesnt finish less than half a mile from my door.

Chalk

ahh never mind,
the red part is where you cant get coverage,

wasters

give me faster broadband.....

djmarkus

I rung them up and they said they put a dish "The size of an A4 page" on your roof, cant imagine that that will give too good of service.

Adey2002

djmarkus wrote:

I rung them up and they said they put a dish "The size of an A4 page" on your roof, cant imagine that that will give too good of service.

The technology behind it is actually very good and only a small antenna is required. IT's just as good or better than dsl when implemented correctly (the technology can support upto 56Mbps).

Serbian

I don't know, the site is so crappy that it would put me off. I would wait to hear other people's experience with them before I would sign up.

stevenmu

djmarkus wrote:

I rung them up and they said they put a dish "The size of an A4 page" on your roof, cant imagine that that will give too good of service.

Doesn't breeze or ripwave or one of them work off a small modem sized box that sits indoors ? I would have thought that because it's only a fairly local service a small dish would be fine, and certainly better than a unidirectional antenna which I think most wireless providers use ?

Serbian wrote:

I don't know, the site is so crappy that it would put me off. I would wait to hear other people's experience with them before I would sign up.

That's whats putting me off for now too, hopefully there'll be some feedback from people soon, if they're service is good I don't care what they're site looks like

djmarkus

Time will tell

Adey2002

stevenmu wrote:

Doesn't breeze or ripwave or one of them work off a small modem sized box that sits indoors ? I would have thought that because it's only a fairly local service a small dish would be fine, and certainly better than a unidirectional antenna which I think most wireless providers use ?

That's whats putting me off for now too, hopefully there'll be some feedback from people soon, if they're service is good I don't care what they're site looks like

IBB's ripwave is the small internal non line of sight box which I think is currently 512 down. IBB's Breeze is available as 1Mb or 2Mb and requires the same type of antenna on the roof as it requires line of sight. IBB have oversold in a lot of areas though so getting a good service with them is hit and miss (in my case miss).

I'll let you know how I get on with icecomms as soon as it's installed. (hopefully 2 weeks max). It is a shame about their web site design, it does seem to be putting off quiet a few people.

Yook

I have Icecomms, in Co. Meath for about 6 months now and believe me its another IBB.

They could give a great service they just choose not to, i've been on the phone with tech support for weeks and weeks with them telling me i have a 2 meg line and i can only download at about 100k/s. The pings are very erratic.....very erratic (basically anywhere from 24 - 2000 to jolt.co.uk.

The unlimited download is a good concept, but when there is no download rate to back it up, its terrible! You would expect for €60 a month that the service would be excellent, but its far from it.

Also, all of the traffic is routed straight through to the UK, so my ping to irish servers isnt great. We are actually trying to get rid of them.

TO SUMMERISE:
- Not for gamers
- Expensive
- Terrible tech support

Yook

Just to give you a taste of Icecomms, here is my computer pinging jolt.co.uk just a minute or two ago:


Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=341ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=730ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=738ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=584ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 341ms, Maximum = 738ms, Average = 598ms

ZENER

I'm just inside the coverage area and was going to try them but after seeing those figures . . erm . . maybe not.

By the way they call their DNS servers ZIG and ZAG !!! What does that tell ya :rolleyes:

ZEN

steve-hosting36

Can someone do a traceroute?
to boards.ie?

Yook

There ya go:

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 13 ms 10 ms 12 ms 213.168.230.1
3 12 ms 17 ms 12 ms 213.168.225.243
4 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms 213.168.224.18
5 12 ms 13 ms 76 ms 213.242.106.13
6 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms so-4-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.128.117]

7 55 ms 27 ms 26 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
8 112 ms 114 ms 112 ms panama.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.2]
9 109 ms 108 ms 112 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
10 119 ms 111 ms 109 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.36]

Trace complete.

djmarkus

how far are you from the mast? do you have LOS?

Yook

I'd say im about 1km (if even) from the mast, and yes its perfect LOS because the mast is in the centre of our village (which is up on a hill), i can almost see the mast from my upstairs window. I honestly cant understand it.

I've been on to them many times about it, they say they will ring back and then dont. I know the unlimited downloads are tempting but please think twice, look at the numbers before going with them.

andrew163

Yook wrote:

There ya go:

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 13 ms 10 ms 12 ms 213.168.230.1
3 12 ms 17 ms 12 ms 213.168.225.243
4 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms 213.168.224.18
5 12 ms 13 ms 76 ms 213.242.106.13
6 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms so-4-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.128.117]

7 55 ms 27 ms 26 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.131.
39]
8 112 ms 114 ms 112 ms panama.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.2]
9 109 ms 108 ms 112 ms corerouter1.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.7]
10 119 ms 111 ms 109 ms boards.ie [82.195.136.36]

Trace complete.

Maybe I'm missing something important here but that looks more like a problem between hosting365 (boards) and level3... the link to icecomms seems to be fine...

Yook

Believe me the main problem is between the base station and me. What you were seeing there was one of the good ones:

Pinging 213.168.230.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 213.168.230.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 145ms, Average = 68ms

and again (within 5 mins of each other):

Pinging 213.168.230.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=324ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=653ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=392ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=1001ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 213.168.230.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 324ms, Maximum = 1001ms, Average = 592ms

djmarkus

Wow that is very erratic, must be very frustrating

AdMMM

They aren't signed up to INEX which is the reason why you are being routed to the UK first!

ro2

Yook wrote:

Believe me the main problem is between the base station and me. What you were seeing there was one of the good ones:

Pinging 213.168.230.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 213.168.230.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 145ms, Average = 68ms

and again (within 5 mins of each other):

Pinging 213.168.230.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=324ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=653ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=392ms TTL=254
Reply from 213.168.230.1: bytes=32 time=1001ms TTL=254

Ping statistics for 213.168.230.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 324ms, Maximum = 1001ms, Average = 592ms

What make is the equipment they use? They might be using 2.4Ghz equipment and you could be getting interference from someone.

|.Murderer.| wrote:

They aren't signed up to INEX which is the reason why you are being routed to the UK first!

Their IPs are part of the Telecity mesh, they connect to Sprint and Level3 - not bad apart from the INEX. The INEX is in Telecity now so they might be allowed to join it one of these days.

steve-hosting36

Nope, it's actually a condition of INEX that carrier neutral data centres hosting it cannot join it, so Telecity and DEG cant become members under the current rules.

ro2

I heard that from DEG a while ago, but at least they have carriers that are members of the INEX as part of their mesh. You'd think they'd change that rule now that they've added Telecity - it's not a monopoly now.

steve-hosting36

Sprint and L3 are not INEX members...

The rule could probably be changed, as both Telecity and DEG have their own 'meshed' access product, but it would require a vote and constitution change at INEX

bla

i gave them a ring to see what they actualy used and its a 5.8ghz service thats not quite los so unless you have los it could be even more eratic, think i will wait and see how others get on first