ice broadband

sweeper4 · 06-08-2005 11:19pm

I am a customer of Ice in the Leixlip area. From the coverage map Leixlip seems to be covered by two high sites - mine is pointed in the Maynooth direction. I had DSL for about 1 1/2 years before deciding to ditch €ircon and their line rental and switch to wireless. My experience with Ice so far has been just fine, download speeds match the 2Mbps Eircom service I left and the upload is obviously superior as you would expect from the 512Kbps compared to 128Kbps.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 06-08-2005 11:30pm

djmarkus wrote:

Website looks very thrown together by a 14 year old

Giggling my mofo ass off tbh.

djmarkus · 07-08-2005 5:52pm

sweeper4 wrote:

I am a customer of Ice in the Leixlip area. From the coverage map Leixlip seems to be covered by two high sites - mine is pointed in the Maynooth direction. I had DSL for about 1 1/2 years before deciding to ditch €ircon and their line rental and switch to wireless. My experience with Ice so far has been just fine, download speeds match the 2Mbps Eircom service I left and the upload is obviously superior as you would expect from the 512Kbps compared to 128Kbps.

Sounds Good, Do you think it would be suitable for online gaming or maybe VOIP? wuts ur ping results?

sweeper4 · 08-08-2005 12:47am

djmarkus wrote:

Sounds Good, Do you think it would be suitable for online gaming or maybe VOIP? wuts ur ping results?

I have not tried either so I could not say.

To use the example a previous poster used:

Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 18ms

Adey2002 · 08-08-2005 9:19am

sweeper4 wrote:

I have not tried either so I could not say.

To use the example a previous poster used:

Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 18ms

OMG!!! Sweeper do you have Ice Broadband, and is the above done from it??? I hope so... I'm having my LoS test done by IceComms today.

Yook · 08-08-2005 7:08pm

sweeper4 wrote:

I have not tried either so I could not say.

To use the example a previous poster used:

Pinging jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 18ms

Jaysus.....i wish i got a service like that with them.

Adey2002 · 16-08-2005 3:03pm

As promised, I said I would post my results when I got Ice broadband installed ... (Clondalkin, Dublin btw).
They installed this morning (had LoS done on Friday and a call yesterday to arrange so very quick installation from them). Engineers did an excellent job, took them about 40mins in total, they even ran the cable through the attic so it could be dropped into the corner of the room to minimise cables running round the house.

So, onto the important bit....
I'm on their 2Mb fixed ip package ...
http://www.onspeed.com/en/speed_test.php ===> 1673kb/sec
ftp.esat.net/mirrors/.0/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ls-lR.gz ===> 232KB/sec 11.2Mb in 49 seconds (did that twice because I coulsn't beleive it myself!).

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=56
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 48ms, Average = 23ms

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.136.36] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=51
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=51
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=51
Reply from 82.195.136.36: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 82.195.136.36:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 43ms, Maximum = 52ms, Average = 46ms

djmarkus · 16-08-2005 3:08pm

looks like they sh1t on ibb.

Adey2002 · 16-08-2005 6:54pm

Well, I'm very happy after the last few months. Their website needs a little work cus I know that has put off a few people but I can't say anything bad about the service at all. A1* all the way.

Couch Potato · 16-08-2005 8:29pm

Adey2002 wrote:

Well, I'm very happy after the last few months. Their website needs a little work cus I know that has put off a few people but I can't say anything bad about the service at all. A1* all the way.

Or is that A4

Adey2002 · 16-08-2005 8:54pm

Couch Potato wrote:

Or is that A4

Either way, after months of pain and heartache with IBB, Icecomms, with EXACTLY the same equipment can provide the service they advertise! any one with IBB having a problem should see if they can get an Ice connection.

zuma · 18-08-2005 1:00pm

Damn "Adey2002" that data on your connection looks very nice!!!

Well if they use the same equipment then its proof that IBB are, to put it mildly, a badly managed company!
You cant blame the IBB installers or the people that work in the helpdesk....but you can blame management!!!
Useless managers can bring even the biggest most sucessfull company to its knees.

Adey2002 · 19-08-2005 9:09am

I agree Zuma. It's exactly the same equipment as IBB use, even down to the alvarion black box . .

It's been a few days since my installation now and nothing has changed, in fact pings seem to have improved.. it's always in the teens to www.jolt.co.uk and downloads are shooting down between 1600 & 1700 kbps.

It's worth the little extra money just for the reliability alone..

Sponge Bob · 19-08-2005 9:20am

Ice appear to have slightly dodgy(congested) routes into Inex/Ireland and would be better off getting Inex membership sometime soon but seem to have excellent routes into the UK .

If your primary requirement for BB was gaming off a UK server then the traceroutes I have seen suggest that they are a very very good option indeed.

djmarkus · 29-08-2005 4:25pm

Ice rocks, got my sis to get it, pings are <20 ms to UK servers. well over 100Kbytes down all the time. highly recommended, hope the service doesnt get congested with a high take up tho.

Yook · 29-08-2005 5:39pm

djmarkus wrote:

Ice rocks, got my sis to get it, pings are <20 ms to UK servers. well over 100Kbytes down all the time. highly recommended, hope the service doesnt get congested with a high take up tho.

Do you want to know the sweetest plum! With them i get 5 ping to all of the iol games servers. Its ****ing awesome since they fixed it, do youself a favour and ping games5.iol.ie (quake 3/quakeworld server):

Pinging games5.iol.ie [193.120.123.137] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.120.123.137: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.123.137: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.123.137: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.123.137: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 193.120.123.137:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 5ms

I used to hate them till they put be on a new mast. Look at those pings!

Saruman · 29-08-2005 5:50pm

My brother knows the people who set it up.. i think it started as a college project and then it turned into a proper business. Im sure as a company they are perfectly fine.. those who have problems must be just unlucky or have some sort of interference causing it.

Noopti · 29-08-2005 7:49pm

Just a quick question for the people who are with Ice. I'm in Leixlip, and I put through my order online on Thursday night, and sent off the Standing Order form thingy on Friday. I was just wondering how long it took them to get back to you guys after you had ordered? I haven't heard anything from them yet, I realise its only Monday, but just wondering if anyone could give me a ballpark figure for how long it took. Cheers...

I guess I'm just impatient after failing line test after line test for DSL!

djmarkus · 29-08-2005 7:52pm

2-3 days 5 at most, these guys are quick off the mark.

pugleon · 30-08-2005 9:35am

Hmmmm

They're using the same carriers as IBB so it can't be that great. 70% of the issues with IBB were packetexchange and level3 related. Drops were originating from there. So unless ice changes that you are going to get the same crap as with IBB. Unless of course those careers improve.

Did I mention I love me new BT plus, and want to have its babys? That is if life were like an Arnie movie and men could bare Children. And at that from an async broadband line...

Noopti · 01-09-2005 11:26am

Well, the guy did the signal test this morning and its all grand, so installation tomorrow. Will post here with ping times etc and my general thoughts on the service over the weekend.

higster · 21-09-2005 8:24pm

Noopti...any update on how it went? About to sign direct debit for them...

Noopti · 21-09-2005 8:31pm

Sorry....forgot about this!

Going very well so far.Getting about 1.2-2.5 mbps downloads P2P.
Just did a ping:

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=47
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=47
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=47
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% l
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 37ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 43ms

They are the kinda pings I usually get...

Orion · 05-11-2005 6:18pm

Does anyone know if they have connected to INEX yet? My primary purpose is for gaming on Irish servers. Getting a good ping to Jolt isn't worth a lot to me. I'm in Maynooth - anyone else from Maynooth signed up with them?

JimmySmith · 05-11-2005 7:52pm

Dont know anything about INEX but tell us something to ping and i'll ping it for you.

TimTim · 05-11-2005 8:32pm

Macros42 wrote:

Does anyone know if they have connected to INEX yet? My primary purpose is for gaming on Irish servers. Getting a good ping to Jolt isn't worth a lot to me. I'm in Maynooth - anyone else from Maynooth signed up with them?

I'd say it could be a few months before Ice will appear in INEX, they have to pay fee's to join, have all the equipment, their own AS number etc.

Although I could be wrong. The mystery behind the internet...we'll never know all that happens.

Adey2002 · 05-11-2005 11:17pm

Well, it looks like icecomms are going down the same hill as irishbroadband. Pings are terrible, averaging 591 just to my gateway and download averaging just 200kb rather than the "normal" 1600. I logged it with them on Thursday and didn't even get a confirmation and it's obvious they haven't bothered there arse fixing it.

Ice seems to have been getting progressively worse and worse as the weeks pass. I'm thinking of just going without broadband altogether, theres no point paying Ice's price if you don't get the service.

sisyphus · 05-11-2005 11:23pm

The technology behind it is actually very good and only a small antenna is required. IT's just as good or better than dsl when implemented correctly (the technology can support upto 56Mbps).

The equipment they use, as indicated above, does seem to be identical to that used by IBB, i.e. all Alvarion based. IBB use BA II, VL 5.4, VL 5.8, VL 10.5 and BreezeMax, and Ice seem to be using mainly VL 5.8 at the moment. A firend of mine got it installed last week in Kilcock, and is pretty happy with it thus far. Getting speeds of between 1 - 2 Mbps line on a 2 Mbps line.
As for it supporting up to 56 Mbps, I very much doubt this. The max as far as I know that VL 5.8 can support is between 4 - 6 Mbps. VL 10.5 can support over 10 Mbps, but that seperate technology. If you're looking for speeds of 54 Mbps over wireless, then it'd have to be Wimax based. This supports up to a theoretical max of 74 Mbps, though obviously not many Irish based companies will even dare offer this.
It remains to be seen if Ice are a viable option.....

Orion · 05-11-2005 11:29pm

JimmySmith wrote:

Dont know anything about INEX but tell us something to ping and i'll ping it for you.

Could you give me a ping and a traceroute to 193.120.201.51? I'd be interested to compare timings.

Pinging 193.120.201.51 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=60
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=60
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=60
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=60

Tracing route to 193.120.201.51 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.42.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  3    19 ms    21 ms    22 ms  bas503.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.239]
  4    22 ms    20 ms    23 ms  vlan500.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.136.125]
  5    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
  6    21 ms    19 ms    22 ms  193.120.201.51

[edit] That's with Esat btw[/edit]

Thanks,

JimmySmith · 06-11-2005 1:15pm

Here you go

Pinging 193.120.201.51 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=57
Reply from 193.120.201.51: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 193.120.201.51:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 6ms

Tracing route to 193.120.201.51 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms 213.168.230.1
2 5 ms 5 ms 6 ms 213.168.225.241
3 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 213.168.224.18
4 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 213.242.106.13
5 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms 213.242.106.134
6 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms vlan2.rt001.cwt.esat-x.com [193.95.129.3]
7 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms vlan52.rt502.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.146]
8 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms vlan515.rt515.cwt.esat.net [193.95.130.242]
9 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 193.120.201.51

Trace complete.

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