Eircom Routing - Who Should I Contact?

AdMMM

Okay, We have a new Irish based game server - hosted in Ireland and all that jazz. However, this is what Eircom are insisting on routing me all the way to London. In London I get onto the NTL backbone and am then sent on a 80ms tour of the UK where I am bounced from city to city (Manchester, Leeds, Liverpool) before finally being sent to Dublin and eventually onto the server.

Now Telecity afaik came online recently and every other ISP has switched their routing over to them and my clanmates on BT get 15ms ping to it

Who on Eircom should I contact regarding them switching their routing over to Telecity as I find it very frustrating having them sending me thousands of miles when the server is physically just a hundred miles away from me!

The IP if anyone wants to tracert it is: 217.115.112.5

Currently I can't get past the 17th hop and everything after that just times out so can you let me know how you get on?

edit://
tracert is now working for me, 14 hops and its rather ridiculous!

C:\Documents and Settings\Adam>tracert 217.115.112.5

Tracing route to 217.115.112.5 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms b-ras1.chf.cork.eircom.net [159.134.155.21]
3 21 ms 19 ms 23 ms 83.71.114.81
4 37 ms 39 ms 36 ms pos0-0.corea.thn.london.eircom.net [159.134.191.
234]
5 34 ms 37 ms 37 ms linx-gw1.router.ntli.net [195.66.224.22]
6 40 ms 39 ms 39 ms pop-bb-b-so-430-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.81]
7 48 ms 49 ms 49 ms lee-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.237]

8 53 ms 49 ms 47 ms lee-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.186]
9 43 ms 44 ms 47 ms man-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.193]

10 53 ms 49 ms 49 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

11 48 ms 49 ms 49 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174
.58]
12 53 ms 52 ms 50 ms dbln-lam-1-pos1200.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.137]
13 52 ms 52 ms 54 ms ace-express.inet.ntl.com [62.254.126.102]
14 54 ms 52 ms 52 ms 217.115.112.5

kaizersoze

I don't know if it's any help (probably not ), but I ran a tracert on my BT connection and it found home in 12 hops (13 if you count my router as the first hop), and pings 30ms.
The chances of Eircom being any help are slim I'd say

flamegrill

thats not eircom' s fault.

it appears that ntl are not peering with eircom at inex, they can do so for free or else ntl's peering at inex is broke at the moment.

I'm on netsource and I get a similar route and its 115ms to the box.

INEX is where all irish isps interconnect for free - this allows them to keep irish traffic within ireland and can also save money on transit costs.

Paul

ntlbell

NTL

traceroute to 217.115.112.5 (217.115.112.5), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.7.15.254 (10.7.15.254) 11.191 ms 11.708 ms 11.653 ms
2 dbln-cam-1a-ge02-100.inet.ntl.com (82.9.146.5) 9.421 ms 7.809 ms 8.144 ms
3 dbln-t2core-a-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com (82.9.145.5) 9.888 ms 11.701 ms 8.324
ms
4 dbln-lam-1-pos000.inet.ntl.com (82.9.145.13) 10.719 ms 10.197 ms 7.974 ms
5 ace-express.inet.ntl.com (62.254.126.102) 12.771 ms 8.343 ms 11.908 ms
6 217.115.112.5 (217.115.112.5) 12.664 ms 11.045 ms 11.731 ms


IRISH BROADBAND

1 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms DN16-ballymun-lo0.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.57.6
]
2 45 ms 21 ms 18 ms DN40-ballycoolin-lo0.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.5
.173]
3 23 ms 97 ms 51 ms DN03-fe-1-3-1-30-tallaght.irishbroadband.ie [62.
31.32.145]
4 17 ms 14 ms 19 ms DN42-as1-0-ibis-access.irishbroadband.ie [62.231
52.134]
5 12 ms 18 ms 22 ms DN42-ae0-50-ibis-gw.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.52
157]
6 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms inex-gw1.router.ntli.net [193.242.111.22]
7 20 ms 16 ms 19 ms dbln-bb-b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.93]

8 13 ms 16 ms 14 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174
58]
9 178 ms 52 ms 37 ms dbln-lam-1-pos1200.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.137]
10 74 ms 212 ms 224 ms ace-express.inet.ntl.com [62.254.126.102]
11 17 ms 13 ms 17 ms BETSY [217.115.112.5]

race complete.

AdMMM

If you look at the IBB tracert though you can see:

6 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms inex-gw1.router.ntli.net [193.242.111.22]

which would imply that NTL are indeed connected to INEX. Likewise, when I tracert www.boards.ie on my Eircom connection it shows an INEX reference.

I'm puzzled as to why, if both ISP's were connected up to INEX it would route me to the UK to a box that is 100 miles away from me?

WillieFlynn

FYI netsource's trace route

1 3 ms <1 ms <1 ms ***** [***.***.***.***]
2 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms *****[***.***.***.***]
3 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms ****.netsource.ie [***.***.***.***]
4 21 ms 23 ms 21 ms rt001kil.netsource.ie [212.17.32.101]
5 25 ms 21 ms 23 ms inex-gw1.router.ntli.net [193.242.111.22]
6 32 ms 33 ms 31 ms dbln-bb-b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.93]

7 33 ms 31 ms 33 ms dbln-t2core-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174
.58]
8 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms dbln-lam-1-pos1200.inet.ntl.com [82.9.145.137]
9 32 ms 31 ms 35 ms ace-express.inet.ntl.com [62.254.126.102]
10 35 ms 33 ms 33 ms 217.115.112.5


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