RAB *spoiler alert* do not read if you haven't finished the Half Blood Prince

Sleepy

So, RAB? Are we convinced it's Regulus Black or could this be one of JK Rowling's trademark wild goose chase's?

I think it's almost certainly Regulus but I'm curious to know if there's any other plausible theories out there!

funky penguin

I'm convinced it's Regulus Alphard Black. Plus, since Dumbledore needed help drinking that liquid, I'm guessing that Regulus needed help too.

I'm thinking that particular person may have a large role to play in the next book....

*strokes chin*

supersheep

I like the Amy Benson theory. It's just a little bit further afield than Regulus, and JK usually doesn't go for the utterly obvious, but still throws in a few hints. However, Regulus fits better with the Horcrux as locket theory - the little silver locket in Grimmauld Place.
No-one else seems to fit...

funky penguin

Who's Amy Benson?

supersheep

Remember when Dumbledore came to the orphanage to get Tom? The matron told a story about two children who were taken to a cave on the coast - the cave the Horcrux was contained in. One of those children was Amy Benson...

funky penguin

Ahhhh yeah....Thats some good spotting there.

supersheep

Thank you, I'm great... And I didn't steal it from the Mugglenet article, I swear...

curliq

methinks it's regalus black, but there's only one way to find out...





wait

marshmallow

I'm convinced it's Regalus Black anyway.

LoneGunM@n

When I read back over the final chapters with the Horcrux after someone mentioned Amy Benson, for some reason I though that it could be more than just a person's name ... that being Revenge, Amy Benson

Clutching at straws?? Very maybe

supersheep

Oooh, that's a nice one! I thought the R might have stood for a secret first name, but that's even better!

funky penguin

LoneGunM@n wrote:

When I read back over the final chapters with the Horcrux after someone mentioned Amy Benson, for some reason I though that it could be more than just a person's name ... that being Revenge, Amy Benson

Clutching at straws?? Very maybe

Clutching at straws is going to be an official pass-time on this forum.

Matthewthebig

who is regulus black?

funky penguin

Sirius Black's Brother.

Or

It could be yore ma.

jellie

where does rab come into it?

X-SL

funky penguin wrote:

Sirius Black's Brother.

Or

It could be yore ma.

haha well stung

funky penguin

sar84 wrote:

where does rab come into it?

Have you read the 6th book?

jellie

yeah.. now i feel stupid.

funky penguin

Don't worry man.

jellie

but what is it?!?

funky penguin

Oh right, I thought you found out. At the end, when Harry finds the note inside the false horcrux, it's signed RAB.

jellie

funky penguin wrote:

Oh right, I thought you found out. At the end, when Harry finds the note inside the false horcrux, it's signed RAB.

ooh ok thanks does sound familiar now

funky penguin

No problem.

supersheep

funky penguin wrote:

Clutching at straws is going to be an official pass-time on this forum.

I think that should be in the charter...

funky penguin

I agree. Consider it done.

Scarinae

supersheep wrote:

However, Regulus fits better with the Horcrux as locket theory - the little silver locket in Grimmauld Place.

Where is that mentioned? What silver locket?

BlitzKrieg

in the previous book (order of the pheonix)

Scarinae

Ok, I'm going to go check that out. Thank you!

banquo

here:

J.K. Rowling Interview wrote:

MA: R.A.B.

JKR: Ohhh, good.

[All laugh.]

JKR: No, I'm glad! Yes?

MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?

[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here]

JKR: Do you have a theory?

MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.

JKR: Have you now?

MA: Uh-oh.

[Laughter.]

JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.

Caoimhe89

I really, really, really think it was Regulus Black... there's a lot of evidence pointing to him... in the note, Voldie is refered to as 'the Dark Lord' which is what Death Eaters call him, and we know Reggie was a DE.

cookiemonst3r

but isnt Regalus Black dead??

Caoimhe89

yep. yep he is. But the theory goes that he got the locket before he died - or that he never really died...

He was a Death Eater, he tried to back out from the Death Eaters, and he was killed... that's what Sirius says.

Of course, he could have found out about the horcruxes and tried to get rid of them to weaken Voldie and then he was killed...

*marie*

I want to believe it's Regulus...but I just can't. It seems too obvious, I mean it's not written anywhere that RAB is someone who's already been mentioned, it could be a completely new character.

Also, can someone clear up the whole Alphhard part for me, I know that Sirius has an "Uncle Alphard", but Regulus is his brother....
??

omnicorp

it does seem a bit obvious really but there aren't any other possibiltites

Siogfinsceal

i think it is one of the boggins that owned the shop in daigaon alley but i could be wrong. cant remember their first names but voldemort stole stuff on them so maybe as revenge?

supersheep

Borgin and Burke? Yeah, that is one of the most popular theories, apart from the obvious Regulus Black - and to me, it certainly seems more plausible. Regulus was never in the inner circle, and couldn't be expected to know about Horcruxes. Borgin or Burke, however, definitely would, and also could have been at Voldemort's right hand.

im going with amy benson!

JameyHenson

Sorry to revive an older topic, but I just thought I'd share my reasoning for being all but postive that Regalus Black is RAB.

If you look at the Dutch translation of the book, the initials are not RAB, but RAZ... furthermore, Black is translated as Zwarts. Also in Norwegian, the initials are RAS, Black being translated as Svaart.

In my opinion, the fact that these initial's still match-up through the translations is pretty concrete proof that RAB(Z or S) is Regalus Black

funky penguin

Nice detective work, thats some solid evidence.

odhran

That's certainly intersting. It's been a while since I read book five, but I think Sirius says that Regulus wasn't a particularly powerful wizard. Therefore, it would be unlikely that he would have had the power to reach the horcrux, even if he had wanted to.

quazzy

odhran wrote:

That's certainly intersting. It's been a while since I read book five, but I think Sirius says that Regulus wasn't a particularly powerful wizard. Therefore, it would be unlikely that he would have had the power to reach the horcrux, even if he had wanted to.

Perhaps he had help....

Just like DD had Harry to help him.

supersheep

JameyHenson wrote:

Sorry to revive an older topic, but I just thought I'd share my reasoning for being all but postive that Regalus Black is RAB.

If you look at the Dutch translation of the book, the initials are not RAB, but RAZ... furthermore, Black is translated as Zwarts. Also in Norwegian, the initials are RAS, Black being translated as Svaart.

In my opinion, the fact that these initial's still match-up through the translations is pretty concrete proof that RAB(Z or S) is Regalus Black

Interesting... Very interesting... Are there any other characters that have surnames beginning with Z or S in those editions, though?
It looks like the Amy theory is shot down. Unless they're jumping the gun, or her name in Dutch turns out to be Zooperheimer or something...

Faith

Burkes first names (of Borgin & Burke) is Caractacus, so that rules him out. Also, JK said she's not going to introduce any important new characters.

*marie*

Faith wrote:

Burkes first names (of Borgin & Burke) is Caractacus, so that rules him out. Also, JK said she's not going to introduce any important new characters.

No important new characters...it pretty much has to be regulus then, doesn't it?

Faith

Yeah, I thought it was too obvious, but it must be. The way RAB is translated in different languages corresponding with what Black is translated to is too much evidence to ignore. And JK also says "Careful rereaders of the books will have discovered at least one of the horcruxes before the week is out", so the locket must be it.

odhran

I think I have to include that RAB is indeed Regulus. But I still think that he couldn't have done it alone...

Faith

The note was written in the first person though. "By the time you read this, I will probably be dead". Otherwise, it's possible RAB could be "R-someone And Black". That's unlikely though.

Scarinae

Faith wrote:

The note was written in the first person though. "By the time you read this, I will probably be dead". Otherwise, it's possible RAB could be "R-someone And Black". That's unlikely though.

He must have had someone with him, but he only mentioned himself in the note because he knew he was going to die anyway - if he mentioned somebody else Voldemort would probably hunt them down and kill them

odhran

I have to admit that I'm kind of disappointed. I love all the speculation about new Harry Potter books, but now the RAB thing is so cast-iron that all the mystery is gone

Faith

You know how J.K. Rowling is. I always think I've got it figured out and then she goes and surprises the crap out of me! While RAB does seem cast iron, I can see her doing something else there. I just can't see her making it so obvious... Unless it turns out to be u****ortant in the long term. Perhaps it's just there to lead Harry to the locket in the cupboard in the Black house in Grimauld Place (if that's going to be a horcrux. I'd say it has to be, because Harry needs to find 4 in one book and it took Dumbledore years to find 2/3. She'd have to make one easy enough to find, in that Harry already knows of it's existence and location.)

Sorry for dragging up an old thread, but I just remembered about this forum!

thehomeofDob

I've been reading through the series again, and while browsing this section, something occured to me. I could be way off as I've only read book 5 and 6 once, but in book 5 we find out that Sirius' house is unplottable, also that Dumbledore is the secret keeper for the houses location.
Mad Eye Moody handed harry a piece of paper on which Dumbledoor had written the house address, so Harry could enter the house.

Now with Dumbledore dead, and that piece of paper gone... how the hell is anyone else supposed to get into Harry's gaff? I'm sure the secret must die with the secret keeper, otherwise it'd be pointless... IE you just kill the secret keeper to get the info you want.
So does this make sense to anyone? Or am I just confused?