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    #32
    Kattyboy25
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Kattyboy25


    Just phoned Gardai, they haven't heard anything about it, but recommended I cancel my cheque. I just looked at the signatures on the paints, very generic names and signed in generic way. Boys and girls me thinks I have been had.


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    #33
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,532 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The paintings scam is a different one to the one I came across. Polish/Lithuanian/Czech random east european people (well I've had 2 call) claiming to be art students offering their own work were selling what looked like pencil drawings, but were in fact prints.


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    #34
    Kattyboy25
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭Kattyboy25


    Well these are lovely oil paintings, really really nice, but they aren't genuine pieces of art. Cheap copies from China. Ah well!


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    #35
    Dr. Seuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Dr. Seuss


    Duped wrote:
    Got a visit today from a young Israeli Student selling paintings. Claimed to be from an organisation Art 4 all. The lady came into our house to show the painting on a wall. We bought a painting and paid by cheque. The lady took our details and said that her parent organisation will be in touch later to offer a framing service.

    I felt a bit unsettled about the whole affair so I googled around. There's not much about Art4All ltd. but the following hits made me feel uneasy:

    http://www.art4allhome.com/ (Apart from the amateurish nature of the page none of the links go anywhere)
    http://www.jewishtelegraph.com/nat_6.html (Read to the end, Sounds to me like someone has been got at)

    Also note the following disclaimer from a legitimate company of the same name:
    http://www.art4all.co.uk/about.htm

    Now I am very worried that all is not as it seems and that this lady may be working for some kind of Israeli Mafia. I couldn't care less about the money we paid for the painting but I am worrried that a dubious organisation has a lot of personal details about us including where we live, what our house is like inside plus all of the details you get on a cheque.

    Has anyone dealt with this crowd before. What are the risks? What steps can we take now to protect ourselves?
    I don't understand the problem - you got a painting - you paid for it. And? How were you "duped" exactly? And what does it matter now if they were Israeli spies or not - you got what you paid for.


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    #36
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    its a painting

    its painted

    you liked it ...even if you paid over the odds

    so its not _really_ a scam .

    Lithuanian 'Charity' clothes collection where no charity ever benefits. Thats a scam.


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    #37
    sticker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    A foreign guy called to the house a few weeks back selling paintings - only my wife there at the time, he was extremely pleasant until she said quite graciously 'No thank you' - He was ignorant as hell - just stormed off...

    Saying that (on a kinda related issue) we had a young girl call to our house a couple of times inside a few months collecting for Gorta - with the dodgyest id I've ever seen - She was a Dub - had that Trinity look to her - well dressed, heavy scarf and well spoken... She was collecting cash and the wife gave her a fiver - I had a bad feeling about it and rang Gorta - they didn't have anyone collecting in the area!

    Added to the fact, they told me most Charities DON'T seek cash on a doorstep, they actually avoid looking for door-to-door contributions.


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    #38
    Sceitimini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭Sceitimini


    Well, did anyone get broken into afterwards?
    Glad to see I'm not the only feckin eejit to let a complete stranger into my house. I didn't buy a painting but she asked if I had a television which i found a bit weird so I'm hoping she wasn't casing the place. She's bound to have been sorely disappointed if she was but still, ........


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    #39
    belfastlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭belfastlass


    hi i just had a visit last night from an israeli guy selling oil painting,i did purchase 4 all i would like to know is did they call back for them to be framed .
    I cannot complain about the paintings as i was happy with my choice and did not expect originals for the price i paid i bought them simply because i liked them and i paid cash so not to give out personal information..


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    #40
    joey17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭joey17


    hi,

    has anyone had any bad experiences after having any of these people visit? I stupidly let someone in and now I am really worried about who the hell I have let in, and if I am about to be burgled....


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    #41
    joey17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭joey17


    hi,

    has anyone had any bad experiences after having any of these people visit? I stupidly let someone in and now I am really worried about who the hell I have let in, and if I am about to be burgled....


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    #42
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,322 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    joey17 wrote: »
    hi,

    has anyone had any bad experiences after having any of these people visit? I stupidly let someone in and now I am really worried about who the hell I have let in, and if I am about to be burgled....
    You've no reason to be worried - afaik there have been no reports of anything like that!

    Not your ornery onager



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    #43
    GigaByte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭GigaByte


    I bought 1 painting last year and 3 only just last week. They said they would call out this week to frame them.

    Before they called out to frame the pictures I logged onto their website to check out and pick what frames I'd like.

    They arrived out last night, I told them what frames I'd like, they brought them in from the van with some other frames they said would look good with each picture.

    They framed all my pictures and I couldn't be happier with the results! :)

    I really don't know how some of the previous posters sleep at night, spies! lol! :D


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    #44
    sticker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    GigaByte wrote: »
    I bought 1 painting last year and 3 only just last week. They said they would call out this week to frame them.

    Before they called out to frame the pictures I logged onto their website to check out and pick what frames I'd like.

    They arrived out last night, I told them what frames I'd like, they brought them in from the van with some other frames they said would look good with each picture.

    They framed all my pictures and I couldn't be happier with the results! :)

    I really don't know how some of the previous posters sleep at night, spies! lol! :D

    On two occasions in the past month I've had people arrive on my doorstep selling paintings. I politely said I wasn't interested and both times, they shot me the darkest look, and buggered off muttering profanity.

    I wouldn't buy from these idiots if my life depended on it. It's not a scam but the few I've encountered are ignorant as hell...


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    #45
    Tristram
    Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Tristram


    lol

    weird to stumble across this thread. met some folk from this bunch a while back. must say the girl was smoking hot. told em i didnt wanna buy ne paintings but they were more than welcome to come in and have a cup of tea. had a pleasant chat about israel and then they left. now i find out they were spies! dammit to hell :D


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    #46
    JoeySully
    Registered Users Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭JoeySully


    Tristram wrote: »
    lol

    must say the girl was smoking hot. told em i didnt wanna buy ne paintings but they were more than welcome to come in and have a cup of tea. had a pleasant chat about israel and then they left. now i find out they were spies! dammit to hell :D

    haha mee too :) had her talking for about half an hour and didn't buy any :o


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    #47
    GigaByte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭GigaByte


    Tristram wrote: »
    lol

    weird to stumble across this thread. met some folk from this bunch a while back. must say the girl was smoking hot. told em i didnt wanna buy ne paintings but they were more than welcome to come in and have a cup of tea. had a pleasant chat about israel and then they left. now i find out they were spies! dammit to hell :D


    Yeah the girl who called to my house was very hot too!! :D


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    #48
    Tristram
    Registered Users Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Something must be done to stop these hot Israeli female spies from calling to our homes! I'll get on to Joe Duffy tomorrow. Support be brothers!

    :D


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    #49
    Dia dhuit
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭Dia dhuit


    My very non-streetwise Dad recently purchased a painting from the aforementioned "smoking-hot israeli girl". A week later he gets a call from her associate talking about framing the picture. We were all in shock when he told us that he paid up front for the framing which the guy would come back to do in a few days when he gets the frame.

    My Dad let the guy into his house so now he knows the contents and i when i asked him did he let it slip that they were going on holidays soon, he said he thinks he might have. :eek::eek::eek:

    I know, it was painful to hear.....

    The guy said he would return today to frame my Dad, i mean the painting.

    After googling some conspiracy theory stuff on this art4all crowd, i am cautiously concerned. Has anyone else recently done something as similarly daft as my naive old man? And if so , (a) did the guy come back , and (b) should i be worried that he will come back again and take the painting along with some household valuables?


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