Champions League Group Stage Draw

cruiserweight

After last nights games all 32 teams are now known and have been divided into pots:

Pot 1:
1 Real Madrid CF (ESP) 131.326
2 AC Milan (ITA) 121.191
3 FC Barcelona (ESP) 117.326
4 Liverpool FC (ENG, holders) 115.864
5 Manchester United FC (ENG) 110.864
6 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 101.191
7 FC Bayern München (GER) 97.166
8 Arsenal FC (ENG) 93.864

Pot 2:
9 FC Porto (POR) 93.739
10 Juventus FC (ITA) 93.191
11 PSV Eindhoven (NED) 84.145
12 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 81.324
13 Panathinaikos FC (GRE) 70.715
14 Chelsea FC (ENG) 68.864
15 Villarreal CF (ESP) 58.326
16 AFC Ajax (NED) 52.145

Pot 3:
17 Club Brugge KV (BEL) 50.476
18 RSC Anderlecht (BEL) 47.476
19 Olympiacos CFP (GRE) 46.715
20 FC Schalke 04 (GER) 44.166
21 AC Sparta Praha (CZE) 43.223
22 LOSC Lille Métropole (FRA) 41.324
23 Rangers FC (SCO) 40.476
24 Werder Bremen (GER) 40.166

Pot 4:
25 SL Benfica (POR) 36.739
26 Rosenborg BK (NOR) 36.665
27 Real Betis Balompié (ESP) 34.326
28 Udinese Calcio (ITA) 30.191
29 Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) 23.872
30 SK Rapid Wien (AUT) 15.208
31 FC Thun (SUI) 6.887
32 FC Artmedia Bratislava (SVK) 4.850

and the procudure will be

UEFA has confirmed the draw procedure for the group stage of the 2005/06 UEFA Champions League, which will take place at 16.00CET this afternoon at the Grimaldi Forum in Monaco.

Coefficient ranking
The 32 teams will be placed in four pots in accordance with their UEFA coefficient ranking. Pot 1 will comprise the eight top-ranked clubs, Pot 2 the next eight and so on for Pots 3 and 4. The sides are therefore divided into eight groups of four, with clubs from the same country kept apart - except for holders Liverpool FC, who are without country protection after UEFA granted them special dispensation to defend the trophy, meaning they could be drawn in the same section as English champions Chelsea FC.

Teams paired
Each team will play three matches on Tuesday and three on Wednesday. If two sides from the same association qualify, they will be paired to split their matches between Tuesday and Wednesday, so one club will always play at home on one day and the other will play away on the other day. In the case of associations with three representatives, only two teams will be paired in terms of their fixtures; in the case of associations with four representatives, two pairings will be made.

Colour codings
To ensure that sides from the same country play on separate days, the eight groups will be distinguished by colour: Groups A-D will be red and Groups E-H blue. When a paired club is drawn, for example, into one of the red groups, the other paired club – once it has been drawn – will automatically be assigned to one of the four blue groups.

Positions confirmed
Teams from Pot 1 will be provisionally placed in the first position within their groups, teams from Pot 2 will provisionally take the second spot in their sections, and so on. Once the draw procedure has been completed, a computer draw will determine the final position of the sides within their group. These positions within the group will then determine the order of the home and away matches.

A nice draw fr one of the top teams (e.g. Liverpool ) would be

Liverpool
Panathinaikos
One of the Belgian Teams
FC Artmedia Bratislava

A horrible draw would be

Liverpool
Juventus/Chelsea
Werder Bremen
Real Betis Balompié/Udinese Calcio

Pepe LeFrits

Horrible draw please!

Chardee MacDennis

Liverpool
Lyon
Rosenberg
Rangers

my guess..
we would walk that

Drag00n79

I would love to see us getting Rangers alright.

jubbly

I think Chelsea might get a horrible draw with Reál or barca because of their poor club club co efficent

Drag00n79

It would not surprise me if we drew Lyon. With Hou there now it is like something that would happen. Likewise ManU and Villarreal (Forlan).

meepmeep

Shamrok wrote:

I would love to see us getting Rangers alright.

Can I ask why? Do you seem them as one of the weaker teams in pot 3?

Serious question.....!

Also, as a Rangers fan, I wouldn't mind drawing Liverpool. Despite them winning it last year, I would still rather take them on than AC Milan, Man United etc.

Drag00n79

meepmeep wrote:

Can I ask why? Do you seem them as one of the weaker teams in pot 3?

Serious question.....!

Also, as a Rangers fan, I wouldn't mind drawing Liverpool. Despite them winning it last year, I would still rather take them on than AC Milan, Man United etc.

To be honest, because I dislike Rangers intensely and Liverpool beating them would give me more satsfaction than beating anyone else in that pot. They are not the weakest team in pot three but they are definitely not the strongest either.

cruiserweight

meepmeep wrote:

Can I ask why? Do you seem them as one of the weaker teams in pot 3?

Serious question.....!

I would see Olympiacos CFP, FC Schalke 04, AC Sparta Praha, LOSC Lille Métropole, Werder Bremen all as being better teams than Rangers ( I don't know very much about the Belgian teams)! As a matter of fact a lot of teams in the 4th pot would be stronger than Rangers IMO! What have Rangers done in Europe recently? Nothing! They looked okay against the champions of Cyprus but I didn't see anything to fear from them!

Necronomicon

Mourinho was having a go at UEFA for not putting Chelsea in the top pot. With Liverpool having no country protection, it could be very interesting! They could get both Chelsea and Rangers in the group.

PHB

Teams I'd like to avoid:

9 FC Porto (POR) 93.739
10 Juventus FC (ITA) 93.191
11 PSV Eindhoven (NED) 84.145
12 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 81.324
13 Panathinaikos FC (GRE) 70.715
15 Villarreal CF (ESP) 58.326

20 FC Schalke 04 (GER) 44.166
23 Rangers FC (SCO) 40.476
24 Werder Bremen (GER) 40.166

27 Real Betis Balompié (ESP) 34.326
28 Udinese Calcio (ITA) 30.191

That said, I'll be happy with all draws, group stages are easy.
The only draw which would worry me slightly is
Man Utd
Juventus
FC Schalke 04
Udinese

I think if we got that draw, there is a chance we might not get through.
Besides that, I would fully expect us to win.
p.s.

I'd like it if we got a tough team in the group stages, somebody like Juve. Assuming we got easy other matches. It would give us a bit of high level practice.

StickyMcGinty

united WILL get an easy draw, they always do! i swear its just blind luck -

i predict

United
Panathinaikos
LOSC Lille Métropole
FC Thun

Liverpool
Villarreal CF
Werder Bremen
Fenerbahçe SK

Arsenal
AFC Ajax
AC Sparta Praha
Udinese Calcio


FC Barcelona
Chelsea
RSC Anderlecht
FC Artmedia Bratislava

dont know why i bothered predicting really, its an extra slow day in work

ntlbell

anyone know what time the draw is on at? is it on tv?

Drag00n79

3.30 on Eurosport and Sky Sports News.

Pigman II

3pm gmt according to uefa.com. dont know if its on tv

meditraitor

4pm CET, not on telly

cruiserweight

It is on Sky Sports News AFAIK! The draw should be on uefa.com as well a lot of the draws normally are!

jubbly

I hope Rangers lose all their games (the same way I want celtic to lose all theirs as well).

The draw used to be always early, around 11am GMT. Dunno why they have it at 4??

Im going to put money on Arsenal not making it out of the group stages

Draupnir

United will get Villareal, its written in the Uruguayan stars.

Either way, I cant wait to see the group of death, and I hope an English side is in it so we get to see the games.

therecklessone

It is definitely on Eurosport.

The Insider

I would take this for Liverpool thank you very much...

Liverpool
Panathinaikos
Anderlecht
FC Artmedia Bratislava

okidoki987

The draw will be the usual 40 minutes to get the balls into the drums, 10 minutes to get them out, 5 seconds to get the bit of paper out and 20 minutes to read the ****ing thing.
It takes way to long nowadays to do it.

MrJoeSoap

Its on Five Live too:

Linky

evad_lhorg

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,1-1193343,00.html

okidoki987

It's on NTL ITV NEWS live as well.

StickyMcGinty

can someone post the draw as it happens... i'm in work!

cheers!

cruiserweight

Steven Gerrard named the Champions League MVP for last season!

Cech is top goalkeeper, Terry top defender, Kaka top midfielder and Ronaldinhio top striker!

meditraitor

Here we go

meditraitor

meditraitor wrote:

Here we go

Liverpool Group G v Chelsea(bollox)

evilhomer

How can Villereal have a co-efficient almost the same as Chelsea? only 10 points in the difference and this is there first time in the champions league?

StickyMcGinty

must be uefa cup coeff... keep me posted on the draw

yermandan

lyon
real madrid

group f

yermandan

ajax
arsenal

group b

yermandan

psv
milan

group e

yermandan

villareal
man u
group d

PHB

Hahhaha

Forlan is back!!!

yermandan

porto
inter

group h

PHB

Come on the lIverpool Chelsea!!

HAhahah
Chelsea and Liverpool!

evilhomer

Forlan back to United

Vikings

Liverpool
Chelsea

Brian017

This draw has to be a fix.

yermandan

yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss

liverpool chelsea

lol

Big Ears

Theres always things like that in the draw . But with the amount of transfer activaty we were bound to get a 'insert name' going back to 'insert club' and several other coinceades .

Edit : I was wrong its a fix :eek: ! .

Lex Luthor

So far...

Group A
Bayern Munich
Juventus

Group B
Arsenal
Ajax

Group C
Barca
Panathanikos

Group D
Man U
Villareal

Group E
AC Milan
PSV

Group F
Real Madrid
Lyon

Group G
Liverpool
Chelsea

Group H
Inter Milan
Porto

PHB

This draw ain't great for United so far, but for Liverpool, ouch!
For Bayern, ouch!!!!
Arsenal got one of the weakest teams, and the fact they play attacking football is gona make it all the easier for Arsenal.
Arsenal are in the knockout


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Lille?
I dont know much about them, was that an easy draw?

evilhomer

The Insider

Group A -
Bayern
Juventus

Group B -
Arsenal
Ajax

Group C -
Barcelona
Panathinaikos

Group D -
Man U
Villarreal

Group E -
AC Milan
PSV

Group F-
Real Madrid
Lyon

Group G -
Liverpool
Chelsea

Group H -
Inter Milan
Porto

Töpher

Who didn't see Chelsea and Liverpool being drawn together?

evilhomer

tough group for united so far

The Insider

Utd through to the knockout already.... :mad: :mad:

Man U
Villarreal
Lile

PHB

Hmm, 3rd in Spain, 2nd in France, this ain't looking like one of our easy draws


Anderlecht, easy for Liverpool and Chelsea assumign they don't get Udinese or Betis

Arsenal are through :P
Rangers have a chance